Could it be, that Jesus-worshiping Christians

[Elijah John]

Could it be that Jesus-worshiping Christians are worshiping an innocent man who never asked for any of this?

If not, what makes you so certain that Jesus-worship is not a violation of the First Commandment?

[Elijah John]

[Replying to Elijah John]

Or this could simply be another excuse to pretend Jesus didn't say what Jesus really said. Odd that believers never question the meaning of verses were Jesus used the word, "love".

Maybe when he used the word, "love", he really meant hate only slightly less. Apparently he used hyperbole quite a bit, or so the claim goes.

Interesting negation. Do you dispute that Jesus used the poetic device of hyperbole?

You claimed he did. I repeated your claim.

Are you suggesting that your claim is flawed and I shouldn't trust it?

No, I am asking if you are disputing my assertion that Jesus empolyed hyperbole in his rhetoric. You seem to be disputing that.

I just stated quite clearly that I repeated your claim. You seem to be the one disputing it all of a sudden. Why is that?

If all you are doing is repeating my claim, and back TO me, that does not advance the debate. Why are you doing that? What game are you playing? Seems to me that is not debating in good faith.

[brianbbs67]

[Replying to post 5 by Divine Insight]

I believe the Greek on that was actually "Love less". I am not an expert.

The experts involved in the following translations: NIV, NASB, KJV, ESV, NLT, RSV, YLT, and WYC, all used the word "hate" when translating this verse. It'd take more argumentation than "I believe" to consider them all flawed.

You have the knowledge, I have the curiosity. What is the verbatim of this.

Please explain the relevance of this request to my post. I see none.

Miseo, is not regarded as the same as the English hate as far as I can tell. I wanted your opinion as you seem versed in this.

https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/ ... luke-14-26

https://biblehub.com/greek/3404.htm

See the other meanings? There is not one. And if there was, it would defy the decalogue.

[rikuoamero]

[Replying to post 5 by Divine Insight]

I believe the Greek on that was actually "Love less". I am not an expert. But, it seems the Greeks had at least 8 words for everything. I guess they were trying to be specific. Who knows?

With regards to Luke 14:26 and it's translation, one just wonders why if it's "actually Love Less", that pretty much ALL Bible English translations say Hate, instead of Love Less?

https://biblehub.com/luke/14-26.htm

(Apart from two, which say Love More than your family, one which says abandon and another which says disregard)

[Tcg]

Miseo, is not regarded as the same as the English hate as far as I can tell.

As far as you can tell? How is that any more acceptable than your earlier claim which was built on, "I believe"?

I wanted your opinion as you seem versed in this.

I already revealed that 8 well respected versions translate the word as "hate". Care to address why your, "as far as I can tell" or your, "I believe" should be considered as more authoritative?