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Filtered love.

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John 15.9
As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
For debate, why does the Synoptic Jesus preach direct love from the Father vs. Jesus as portrayed in John preaches a "filtered love". Love from the Father, through the Son to everyone else.

He goes on to say in verse 10
If ye shall keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
The "our Father" of the Synoptics becomes "my" Father in John. Why?

Why does John's Jesus filter the Father's love though himself, in contrast to the Synoptic Jesus who preaches a more direct relationship to the Father for his disciples?
My theological positions:

-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.

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Post by Elijah John »

[Replying to post 19 by 2timothy316]

Going through Jesus as judge, high priest and king is not direct access to Jehovah. Neither is praying "in Jesus name". Those things are not bad things in and of themselves, and to many, very helpful. But those things are all elements of mediated, not direct access.

Why not conclude prayers to Jehovah with a phrase such as "in your holy name we pray" instead of "in Jesus name we pray"?

Is the name of Jesus higher than the name of Jehovah? More effective? Is the name of the Father somehow insufficient to open and conclude a given prayer? Or to get the Good LORD's attention?

Working Jesus into every prayer is evidence of mediation. Does Jehovah not hear and not honor prayer unless this is done?
My theological positions:

-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.

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