What are people to do?

[Waterfall]

I think it is very strange that people have to wait forever to be resurrected.

Has this idea not a time limit? 1000 year? 10.000 year? 100.000 year? 1.000.000 year?

If there is no time limit then people could wait forever, right?

Would God not demand a time limit (or date) if someone were to say things like that?

When should people abandon this idea?

Lets say Satan tells Jesus that he will destroy him and Jesus respond by saying...very well...can you give me a date? When will you destroy me? Someday? Thats like forever and never? How long time should I wait for this destruction or should I say...when things do not happen then we know it was not true, so can you give me a date - 2040?

How can we tell truth from lie whitout a date?

Maybe it has nothing to do whit time...but something else.

When this happens, then...

But then we would ask about that...what has to happen? Will it happen when everybody is dead (God will raise mankind from the dead?)? Then there could go a very long time, so...

What are your thoughts about this idea?

[EBA]

I think it is very strange that people have to wait forever to be resurrected.

Dead people wait on nothing, they're dead and have no sense of anything.

The scriptural fact is that the very millisecond you die, you will be awake at the great white throne judgement. From there you will, eventually, be resurrected.

[brianbbs67]

If time means nothing, if dates mean nothing, then the dead know nothing, till they are raised. Time is created for us here, I believe. I don't worry what will happen when I die, either. I will be dead. Its moot.

[Waterfall]

If time means nothing, if dates mean nothing, then the dead know nothing, till they are raised. Time is created for us here, I believe. I don't worry what will happen when I die, either. I will be dead. Its moot.

The idea of a soul or spirit has been around for a very long time.



Maybe this is a true account of Jesus life:

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/m-a14.htm

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/m-a28.htm

[onewithhim]

If time means nothing, if dates mean nothing, then the dead know nothing, till they are raised. Time is created for us here, I believe. I don't worry what will happen when I die, either. I will be dead. Its moot.

The idea of a soul or spirit has been around for a very long time.



Maybe this is a true account of Jesus life:

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/m-a14.htm

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/m-a28.htm

Indeed, the idea of "a soul or spirit"---that is, one that lives on after the individual is dead---has been around for a very long time. It was Satan's original LIE. He said, "Ye shall not surely die." (Genesis 3:4, KJV) That was the start of the false belief, perpetrated by all Babylonish religions, that the individual lives on in some form even after the death of the body.

They have twisted the Scriptures and misrepresented them. When the "spirit" is talked about, it is actually never in reference to a departed individual who is now conscious in some other realm. But sly persons have taught that the "spirit" refers to a departed person in an ethereal form, which has caused nothing but confusion and anxiety and a great departure in revering the one true God.


https://www.jw.org/en/search/?q=Soul

[JehovahsWitness]

Does God know the date?

Yes absolutely. God knows the date, the hour the minute when he will start to resurrect the dead.

Repairing the damage done by Satan...does that mean...when there is peace on earth then it will happen (the resurrection of the dead)?

Yes, that is it exactly.

God will first kill off wicked people. Only those he judges as righteous will be left on earth (Have you heard of the expression "The meek shall inherit the earth", that's when that will come true).

Only when this has been done, will God start to resurrect people from the dead. It will be a wonderful time.


JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 5 by onewithhim]

Oooops! Sorry. (I forgot what I was replying to.) Whatever it was, I should've remembered about the one-liners.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 3 by onewithhim]

We just don't know the day or hour, but we can evaluate the season, as Jesus told us to do ("keep on the watch").

Not really.

We can't "evaluate the season", which is why Jesus urged us to "keep on the watch"(Matthew 24:42).

Acts 1:7

He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or seasons the Father has set by his own authority".

From HELPS Word-studies

1127 grēgoreú� – literally, "stay awake"; (figuratively) be vigilant (responsible, watchful).

Jesus said, at Matthew 24:32,33, that we could know he is near if we took note of various aspects of the "sign" that the disciples asked for so we could tell when Jesus was about to come in Kingdom power at the end of the system of things.

"While he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: 'Tell us, when will these things be and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?'" (Matt.24:3, NWT)

Jesus then listed many aspects of the sign of his presence. They were all things that would, of course, capture our attention as undoubtedly being unprecedented, I would think. World Wars; many false prophets (more than there ever were before the 20th century); increase of lawlessness; the "disgusting thing that causes desolation," which could well be the institution that the pope, for example, said was the "last hope for mankind"---the United Nations; and also the world-wide preaching work that wasn't done world-wide until the beginning of the 20th century and continues today. Then he said:

"Now learn from the fig tree as an illustration this point: Just as soon as its young branch grows tender and it puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. Likewise also you, when you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors." (Matt.24:32,33)

So from this we can discern the "season" in which Jesus will return.


He also chastised the Pharisees for not being able to discern even when the Messiah would arrive, even though all the indications were written in the Scriptures. He said to them that they could figure out the weather by the color of the sky, but they could not interpret the "signs of the times." (Matt.16:2,3) They were not really looking for the Messiah. If they were, they would have accepted him. And by the same token, people who are looking for his return today will discern the signs of the times.

[JehovahsWitness]

And that makes me open to other possibilities.

Good, if you are open to other possibilities, why not read up on what JEHOVAH'S WITNESS teach about the resurrection from the bible?

Here is a link
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/book ... they-live/

• That most of mankind will not be resurrected to heaven.
  
  That the people will be resurrected back to life right here on this planet earth.
  
  That we don't have an immortal soul.
  
  That a resurrection is God "recreating" a flesh and blood body for someone that has died.
  
  That because of the above we will be able to welcom back any dear loved ones we have lost in death.

Here is an artists impression of the ressurection to try and help you understand what I am saying.



In flesh and blood bodies to live forever in peace with us on this our present planet earth.



JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

[Tcg]

Has this idea not a time limit? 1000 year? 10.000 year? 100.000 year? 1.000.000 year?

Many time limits have been set. Jesus even set one. Given that the resurrection hasn't happened during any of those time limits, it will be in a perpetual state of extension as excuse after excuse is made as to why it didn't happen when promised.

I doubt that even in 10,000 years people will be waiting for the resurrection. They will have grown tired of the failure of this promise and given up on it. Sadly, by that point, some other promise will have been made that people will follow for a few thousand years until it becomes apparent that promise will not be fulfilled either.

There is a chance humans will at some point learn better than to put their hope in promises that will never be fulfilled, but there is no sign of that happening anytime soon.

[onewithhim]

Has this idea not a time limit? 1000 year? 10.000 year? 100.000 year? 1.000.000 year?

Many time limits have been set. Jesus even set one. Given that the resurrection hasn't happened during any of those time limits, it will be in a perpetual state of extension as excuse after excuse is made as to why it didn't happen when promised.

I doubt that even in 10,000 years people will be waiting for the resurrection. They will have grown tired of the failure of this promise and given up on it. Sadly, by that point, some other promise will have been made that people will follow for a few thousand years until it becomes apparent that promise will not be fulfilled either.

There is a chance humans will at some point learn better than to put their hope in promises that will never be fulfilled, but there is no sign of that happening anytime soon.

The Bible gives us a date as to when Jehovah's Kingdom will re-enter mankind's affairs, after thousands of years of "the times of the Gentiles" (Luke 21:24), when mankind was allowed to do its best to rule the earth without God's interference. Daniel chapter 4 gives us the chronology that helps us to understand when this will occur. The times of the nations ended in 1914.

By this we know that the Great Tribulation is in the near future. We have also seen the "sign of the end of the age"---a multi-faceted sign that Jesus described in Matthew chapter 24. Never before the 20th century has mankind seen those things on an unprecedented scale.