Paul's theology of sacrifice, against Proverbs 21.3?

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Paul's theology of sacrifice, against Proverbs 21.3?

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Proverbs 21.3
To do what is right and just
is more acceptable to the Lord than sacrifice.
How does one reconcile this proverb with the Pauline doctrine that it is sacrifice (namely that of Jesus) which is acceptable to God and not our right and just actions, i.e."works"?

Is this an example of contradiction of Biblical principles?
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Re: Paul's theology of sacrifice, against Proverbs 21.3?

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DPMartin wrote: [Replying to post 1 by Elijah John]



Pro_16:11 A just weight and balance are the LORD'S: all the weights of the bag are his work.

the Cross is the work or offering or sacrifice of the Lord, not man's offering or sacrifice. therefore His work, it has weight in His Judgement.

and there's no such thing a Pauline theology set forth by the Apostle to the Gentiles Paul. such titled "theology" is the views and thoughts of men of what Paul wrote down, and Paul taught the views of the Lord in respect to the fulfillment of the Gospel towards the Gentile despite Paul's efforts towards his countrymen, the Hebrew.
So do you see Paul's writings as "revelation" and not theology? In that we differ, I see it as theology. With doses of poetic wisdom.

Inspired? Perhaps. Infallible revelation? I woudln't go that far.

Don't you think that Paul interprets Christ? That would be theoolgy. He interpreted Christ's crucifixion giving it theological meaning as an "atonement". That is the prime example of Pauline theology. His contribution to what we know today a orthodox (small "o") "Christianity"..
My theological positions:

-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.

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Re: Paul's theology of sacrifice, against Proverbs 21.3?

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[Replying to post 11 by Elijah John]
He interpreted Christ's crucifixion giving it theological meaning as an "atonement". That is the prime example of Pauline theology.
As did the writer of Hebrews.

A position clearly supported by Peter and John.

And by Jesus himself.

And by Isaiah 53.

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Re: Paul's theology of sacrifice, against Proverbs 21.3?

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Elijah John wrote: [Replying to post 2 by JehovahsWitness]

Good observation that good works are acceptable to God in different contexts. But why do you suppose the Proverb constrasts good works, right and just actions, with sacrifice?

Not to speak for JW, but I would say that the Proverb is showing the distinction between, what Paul calls a "living sacrifice" and the commemorative symbolic Temple sacrifices. The ceremony without the practice is useless, because it is Adonai who saves us in accordance with His promise. The practice without the ceremony is presumptuous, i.e. it presumes one will engage in the practice without the reminder of the ceremony.

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