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"Thanks to the blood of Christ

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A preacher on TBN said yesterday,
Thanks to the blood of Christ, his Father becomes our Father.
Didn't Jesus teach his listeners to call God " our Father" even before "the blood" was part of the equation?

So is it really "Thanks to the blood of Christ" that God is Father? Or is God "Father" whether or not Jesus died to "pay for" our sins?

Are we children of God through faith that this is so? Or only because we are adopted by virtue of the "blood of Christ"?
My theological positions:

-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.

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My theological positions:

-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.

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2timothy316 wrote: The root meaning of to 'sacrifice' is to 'make sacred'.
http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/vie ... 1-0109.xml

Legally making things sacred to a God of perfect justice is certainly important. So for Jesus to give us the opportunity to make ourselves legally sacred to Jehovah by washing ourselves in the blood of the Lamb, meaning the Word of God, this is certainly a very loving and kind act.
Loving and sacrificial perhaps by Jesus, but how is this line of thought in any way loving by Jehovah?

How is offering His Son to be slaughtered as an offering to Himself in any way an "act of love"? For us, perhaps in a twisted way. But as Fatherly, loving act towards and for His Son? I sure don't see it.

How is the legalism your sect promotes in any way compatible with the love and mercy of Father Jehovah, as Jesus taught?

What does this supposed need for blood say about Father Jehovah?
My theological positions:

-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.

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[Replying to post 34 by Elijah John]

I would say the way to summarize this is, There is a price to pay or blessing to receive from every action we take. It maintains equilibrium in the universe. In others words, our action can have equal and opposite reactions or compliments. It all depends on our choice. Or lack of a choice. Because, you still have made a choice.

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