If God's retribution is assured for ALL infidels and non-followers, Why waste money and resources fighting them? If "Thou shalt not kill" and ". . . turn the other cheek" is the mainstay of America's premier religion, why is (Christiun) USA adamant about spending at least 3.6% of its GNP in defending against camel jockeys and that two-bit fire cracker nitwit in North Korea? Isn't God going to protect us?
The new administration is throwing more money into our war machine after the president campaigned that we were no longer going to be the policemen of the world (and his base is predominantly evangelical Christian).
Let's whoop it up for hypocrisy!
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Post #2[Replying to post 1 by 2Dbunk]
As JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES we keep out of politics (Jehovah's Witnesses don't vote or hold public office, neither do we have or fund lobbies or participate in political demonstrations of any kind). As such I would say that we believe God will eventually demand that all human governments answer for any misuse of their funds or power.
In the meantime God my opinion is that does protect his people spiritually, regardless of what political regime they find themselves.
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As JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES we keep out of politics (Jehovah's Witnesses don't vote or hold public office, neither do we have or fund lobbies or participate in political demonstrations of any kind). As such I would say that we believe God will eventually demand that all human governments answer for any misuse of their funds or power.
In the meantime God my opinion is that does protect his people spiritually, regardless of what political regime they find themselves.
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Post #3[Replying to post 2 by JehovahsWitness]
You are attempting to dis-associate yourself from other Christians, but of course JW is the "One True Religion" right? Surely if there were a "God" he would have foreseen the fragmentation and the mockery of the thousands of jumbled sects, all claiming to be the "One true path to Christ."As JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES we keep out of politics (Jehovah's Witnesses don't vote or hold public office, neither do we have or fund lobbies or participate in political demonstrations of any kind). As such I would say that we believe God will eventually demand that all human governments answer for any misuse of their funds or power.
SURE "HE" does, even as they hide behind the cross as they practice their debauchery and hypocrisy!In the meantime God my opinion is that does protect his people spiritually, regardless of what political regime they find themselves.
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Post #4Yes, that is what I believe. For JW to be "no part of the world" involves being politically neutral.2Dbunk wrote:of course JW is the "One True Religion" right?
Just to clarify, when I speak about "his people" I am refering ONLY to Jehovah's Witnesses.2Dbunk wrote:SURE "HE" does {snip}In the meantime God my opinion is that does protect his people spiritually, regardless of what political regime they find themselves.
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Post #5So you don't regard folks of other denominations as being your "brothers and sisters" only Jehovah's Witnesses? They too, are not children of God and "His people"?JehovahsWitness wrote:
Just to clarify, when I speak about "his people" I am refering ONLY to Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Sad, exclusionary and insular.
And you wonder why your group is sometimes considered a "cult"?
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My theological positions:
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
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Post #6[Replying to post 1 by 2Dbunk]
I would just like to add that we (Jehovah's Witnesses) do not agree with the suffering associated with war. The world has been plagued with wars that are essentially governmeents battling for power, influence and resources.
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I would just like to add that we (Jehovah's Witnesses) do not agree with the suffering associated with war. The world has been plagued with wars that are essentially governmeents battling for power, influence and resources.
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Post #7Just for the record JW, you Witnesses hide behind your protected status as "not a cult" yet take potshots at Catholics and others, as "demonic" or "Satanic".Elijah John wrote:So you don't regard folks of other demoninations as being your "brothers and sisters" only Jehovah's Witnesses? They too, are not children of God and "His people"?JehovahsWitness wrote:
Just to clarify, when I speak about "his people" I am refering ONLY to Jehovah's Witnesses.
Regards,
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Sad, exclusionary and insular.
And you wonder why your group is sometimes considered a "cult"?
My theological positions:
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
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Post #8Well, join the vast majority. Few "agree with" the suffering that results from war. Few want to go to war. For evil to triumph it is sufficient that good people do nothing. Those who do not choose to fight rely on others to make their country safe from an invader. Britain fought a war against Germany, a war she did not want. Her resistance won for the cause of righteousness; what horrors would have happened if she had chosen your way? The Bible seems to endorse going to war and Jehovah actively encourages the slaying of enemies, children among them. So your views are non-Scriptural.JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 1 by 2Dbunk]
I would just like to add that we (Jehovah's Witnesses) do not agree with the suffering associated with war.
And yes, of course there are senseless wars of aggression. That's not in dispute.
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Post #9Yes, I agree. Wars motivated by greed and thirst for power that sacrifice young lives to enrich the powerful. Our times are marked by such tragedy; couldn't agree with you mroe!marco wrote:
And yes, of course there are senseless wars of aggression.
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Post #10[Replying to post 6 by JehovahsWitness]
I would add to your noble accolade, that we non-theists are equally against non-sensible, unessential war.
I would just like to add that we (Jehovah's Witnesses) do not agree with the suffering associated with war. The world has been plagued with wars that are essentially governmeents battling for power, influence and resources.
What good is truth if its value is not more than unproven, handed-down faith?
One believes things because one is conditioned to believe them. -Aldous Huxley
Fear within the Religious will always be with them ... as long as they are fearful of death.
One believes things because one is conditioned to believe them. -Aldous Huxley
Fear within the Religious will always be with them ... as long as they are fearful of death.