Clinton has been part of the problem for many years

[Elijah John]

Hillary Clinton has been part of the problem for many years now, or at the very least, part of the stagnation in Washington DC.

Tired old ideas and policies that haven't worked too well.

Donald Trump could well be part of the solution.

For debate, why not give him a chance today, election day ?

[Monta]

[Replying to Elijah John]

"Donald Trump could well be part of the solution. "

I agree. At least with Trump we can hope there will be less
destruction of lives around the world.

20 tonnes of depleted uranium has been dropped on Iraq.
Why didn't Clinton stop it.

[Divine Insight]

Hillary Clinton has been part of the problem for many years now, or at the very least, part of the stagnation in Washington DC.

The stagnation in Washington DC has been caused entirely by a Republican majority in the congress who not only refused to work with Obama and the Democracy in a positive way to make our country greater, but they have actually opposed everything Obama has tried to do just to spite Obama and the democrats.

The Republican majority in congress caused the stagnation in Washington DC. Hillary had absolutely nothing at all to do with holding our country back. To the contrary she was working with the democrats to try to move things FORWARD all along.

Why is it that the Republicans want to pin the blame on Hillary for all the trouble they have been causing for our country?

Donald Trump could well be part of the solution.

For debate, why not give him a chance today, election day ?

Based on the policies he has proposed it is far more likely that he will send the USA into a nose dive from which not even congress will be able to pull out of.

I see absolutely nothing in any of Trump's polices that would solve anything.

His claims are unrealistic and not even doable.

Building a physical wall between the USA and Mexico INSTEAD of dealing directly with immigration reform in an intelligent and wise manner would not solve a thing. In fact, that very idea does nothing but exhibit Trump's total ignorance of the real problems.

Hillary will work with the REAL ISSUES.

Refusing to acknowledge potential racial and poor training in our police forces and promising to instill "Stop and Frisk" polices that target minorities based on profiling, does not address the problem. To the contrary it only exacerbates it.

Trump with throw the USA into a racial divide, the likes of which have never been seen before.

Hillary will work with the REAL ISSUES.

Trump thinks he can just ignore Climate Change, and the Environmental Protection Agency and deregulate industries in the unrealistic hope that this will automatically start up old coal mines, railroads, steel mills and factories. He also plans on giving the riches people huge tax breaks in the hope that "trickle down" will be the automatic result. The truth is that this is unrealistic.

Hillary will work with the REAL ISSUES.

Donald Trump could well be part of the solution.

For debate, why not give him a chance today, election day ?

Because I don't feel like handing the USA over to Donald Trump for him to experiment with as though it's just a toy. His proposed experiments do not sound like they are going to work.

You don't just hand the most powerful nation on Earth over to someone who doesn't know what they are doing just to see what he MIGHT do with it.

That would be ridiculous.

You've got to be kidding. Our future and the future of our children are too important to play craps with the future of our nation. Donald Trump has not put forth a realistic plan to deal with anything intelligently.

Most of his plans are to IGNORE the problems.

1. Ban all Muslims from the the USA. (ignore the problem)
2. Pretend that you can just bomb the hell out of ISIS and making them magically disappear within a month (ignore the problem)
3. Deport all illegal immigrants and build a wall to keep them out, (ignore the problem)
4. Reject the idea that police might need better training and just tell them to stop and frisk using racial profiling. (ignore the problem)
5. Put and end to Climate Change Polices and the EPA. (ignore the problem)
6. Incite industries to rebuild coal mines, railroads, steel mills, and factories, (ignore the fact that this isn't financially feasible)
7. Threaten to renegotiate or cut off trade with foreign nations unless the USA is winning BIG TIME. (ignore reality and end up with no one to trade with)

I'm not going to vote for those things. And I would suggest that anyone who cares about their family or children refrain from voting for Trump as well.

Vote for Hillary if you care about the future of the USA and our children.

The USA is not a "school project" to be handed over to Donald Trump as a toy just to see what he might decide to do with it.

Our future is at stake here!

[DanieltheDragon]

[Replying to post 1 by Elijah John]

Because Donald is incapable of running his Twitter account much less a country.

[Bust Nak]

For debate, why not give him a chance today, election day ?

"You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!" springs to mind.

[McCulloch]

Tired old ideas and policies that haven't worked too well.

Did you mean the tired old ideas held by the Republican controlled House of Representatives and Senate that has been doing their absolute best to obstruct fresh ideas coming from the White House ?

[Monta]

[Replying to post 3 by Divine Insight]


"You don't just hand the most powerful nation on Earth over to someone who doesn't know what they are doing just to see what he MIGHT do with it. "

That is the problem, the most powerful nation on earth has the most powerful
killilng ability towrds the most of the world population.

Trump at least let the word 'peace' come out of his mouth so we are hopeful which is a lot more than what Hillary offered.

[Willum]

This election has long been about "who will defeat Hillary in the 2016 election?"

She could not win in 2008 vs Chaney, she certainly had no chance against whomever won this time.

It was all a matter of letting the Repubs have this one.

No matter who won the election, the world is faced with increasing wind and solar power; removing the last hurdle to economic growth, ever!
We are face with the capability to show our own immune systems how to fight cancer, ending this menace.
We have been faced with boundless food and plenty of labour.

With that shelter is no longer a problem, if this is desired.

Even a buffoon such as Trump couldn't possibly fail under such circumstances.
But neither could a criminal such as Hillary.
Trump, within the next few years will be regarded as a second "Reagan," but then, so would have Hillary, had she won.

Which leaves us with the real question.
Are we going to continue to pursue "resource-constrained" policies because they worked so well in WWI and WWII eras, which were eras of conservation?

Or do we start considering how we should change to promote weal instead of managing resources?

What should our vision be for the 21st century?

[FinalEnigma]

3. Deport all illegal immigrants and build a wall to keep them out, (ignore the problem)

Regarding this point, I would also like to note that doing this would seriously screw over our agriculture and food production in this country.

This is not even a point for debate. I work tangentially in the industry. I have gone to chicken plants and talked with the plant managers. And you know something that keeps coming up? It's really hard find employees to work there.
Mostly, Americans won't do it. I was recently in a chicken plant in one of the states with the lowest cost of living and lowest minimum wage, and they were offering $12 an hour, for unskilled labor, and had been having staffing problems for two years.

Our agriculture and food production depends on undocumented immigrants. Even if Trump somehow succeeded at deporting 2 million illegal immigrants, that would not be a good thing.
Among other things, it would give a dramatic push toward improving our workerless-automation capabilities, which would then spill over into other industries, and drive us very quickly in the direction of machines taking over a lot of our unskilled labor and low wage jobs.

[bluethread]

3. Deport all illegal immigrants and build a wall to keep them out, (ignore the problem)

Regarding this point, I would also like to note that doing this would seriously screw over our agriculture and food production in this country.

Maybe this will force the INS to work properly and stream line the worker visa program, rather than having to not inforce those laws by executive order. I am the first to say that governments do not control the economy. They just influence where business is going to take place, how much of it is black market and how much of the price of legal business is going to go up due to governmental costs. The answer is not to just pass legislation and then not enforce it. The answer is to recognize the nature of the economy and design a system that works with it, instead of against it.