Immigration and minorities

[Cewakiyelo]

Here are a couple of interesting things I was given to review and I thought they were good enough to pass along so I am passing them along. Please feel free to comment on these two items if you wish.

Authorship unknown.

On February 4th, 2013, Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, addressed the Duma, (Russian Parliament), and gave a speech about the tensions with minorities in Russia:

"In Russia live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law. Russia does not need minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'. We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation. The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of most minorities. When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the national interest first, observing that the minorities are not Russians.

This next item is a video by Ray Stevens it is a laugh yourself out of your seat lyrical commentary on the U.S. policy concerning immigration. It is to funny and sadly to true.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/WgOHOHKBEq ... detailpage

[WinePusher]

Here are a couple of interesting things I was given to review and I thought they were good enough to pass along so I am passing them along. Please feel free to comment on these two items if you wish.

Authorship unknown.

On February 4th, 2013, Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, addressed the Duma, (Russian Parliament), and gave a speech about the tensions with minorities in Russia:

"In Russia live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law. Russia does not need minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'. We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation. The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of most minorities. When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the national interest first, observing that the minorities are not Russians.

This next item is a video by Ray Stevens it is a laugh yourself out of your seat lyrical commentary on the U.S. policy concerning immigration. It is to funny and sadly to true.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/WgOHOHKBEq ... detailpage

Putin is correct for the most part. The Republican position on immigration is also correct for the most part. However, the idea that immigration is a bad thing should be rejected right off the bat. It depends what type of immigrants are coming here and for what purpose. Right now, their puporse is to primarily mooch off the bloated welfare system in the United States. Only big government liberals would see this as a good thing.

But, the idea of immigration in general should be supported. If we have massive amounts of foreigners immigrating here it indicates that our economy is strong and prosperous. It also increases the supply of labor available so that businesses can hire more people and expand their productive capacity. So, immigration is a net positive for the country if and only if we don't have harmful policies in place like universal healthcare or universal welfare from cradle to grave, etc.

[Cewakiyelo]

[Replying to post 2 by WinePusher]

I agree with both as well. I to agree that immigration is not bad but as the video pointed out in the ending credits, it was made in honor of all of those immigrants who cam to the U.S. the proper way rather than the illegal way.

[WinePusher]

[Replying to post 3 by Cewakiyelo]

Agreed. Here is a great video illustrating the liberal (il)logic about immigration:

[Wyvern]

[Replying to post 3 by Cewakiyelo]

Agreed. Here is a great video illustrating the liberal (il)logic about immigration:

Lol I love it you complain about liberal ideas on immigration when it was the great conservative icon Reagan that granted amnesty to millions of illegals.

[Nilloc James]

[Replying to post 3 by Cewakiyelo]

Agreed. Here is a great video illustrating the liberal (il)logic about immigration:

Lol I love it you complain about liberal ideas on immigration when it was the great conservative icon Reagan that granted amnesty to millions of illegals.

thats politics recently "my side is always right and the other side is always wrong regardless of what anyone is doing".

[Nilloc James]

[Replying to post 3 by Cewakiyelo]

Agreed. Here is a great video illustrating the liberal (il)logic about immigration:

Lol I love it you complain about liberal ideas on immigration when it was the great conservative icon Reagan that granted amnesty to millions of illegals.

thats politics recently "my side is always right and the other side is always wrong regardless of what anyone is doing".

[WinePusher]

[Replying to post 3 by Cewakiyelo]

Agreed. Here is a great video illustrating the liberal (il)logic about immigration:

Lol I love it you complain about liberal ideas on immigration when it was the great conservative icon Reagan that granted amnesty to millions of illegals.

This is another example of how liberals don't know anything about logic.

I'm not familiar with the Reagan Administration's policy regarding immigration, but if he was for full amnesty and open borders then he's dead wrong, regardless of the fact that he was right on about 99% of all the other issues. I think that we should stop persecuting genuine illegal immigrants who come here seeking a better life, we should allow them to stay. But, we should not give them access to voting rights or welfare or things of that nature. Of course you're probably against that because the only reason why liberals wants immigrants here is to utilize their votes.

[PeteZa]

[Replying to post 3 by Cewakiyelo]

Agreed. Here is a great video illustrating the liberal (il)logic about immigration:

Lol I love it you complain about liberal ideas on immigration when it was the great conservative icon Reagan that granted amnesty to millions of illegals.

This is another example of how liberals don't know anything about logic.

I'm not familiar with the Reagan Administration's policy regarding immigration, but if he was for full amnesty and open borders then he's dead wrong, regardless of the fact that he was right on about 99% of all the other issues. I think that we should stop persecuting genuine illegal immigrants who come here seeking a better life, we should allow them to stay. But, we should not give them access to voting rights or welfare or things of that nature. Of course you're probably against that because the only reason why liberals wants immigrants here is to utilize their votes.

Personally. I dont think what Reagan did matters. Pointing to Reagan is like saying "hey, look over there" and its distracting from the issue before us today. Well, Reagan did this or Clinton did this, or Bush did this, or etc etc etc. Its a distraction from the issue. IMHO

[Wyvern]

Personally. I dont think what Reagan did matters. Pointing to Reagan is like saying "hey, look over there" and its distracting from the issue before us today. Well, Reagan did this or Clinton did this, or Bush did this, or etc etc etc. Its a distraction from the issue. IMHO

The only reason why what Reagan did is relevent to this is because WP decided to make this an excuse to complain about liberals once again so I saw fit to point out to him that it was a conservative not a liberal that gave amnesty to millions of illegals. If WP wanted to have a discussion about immigration policy that's all well and good but when he starts off by complaining about liberals and demonstrates how the right wing has skewed his perceptions of what the liberal position is on the subject it is not a distraction because the very issue he is addressing is not immigration policy but his perception of what the liberal stance is on the subject.