Revisiting the Issue of Terrorism

[WinePusher]

The terrorist attack in Boston has reignited some older issues that were pretty prevalent under the Bush Administration.

Questions:

1) There was some contreversy regarding miranda rights and whether or not they should of have extended to this suspect. Should miranda rights, and all the other constitutional liberties, be afforded to suspects under all circumstances? Or should there be some special exceptions where these rights are suspended?

2) There is a debate regarding if the suspect, if convicted of all charges beyond a reasonable doubt, should receive the death penalty. Timothy McVeigh was sentenced to death. Do you think the death penalty should be considered or compeltely ruled out?

[Darias]

[Replying to post 9 by Divine Insight]

Yes, the death penalty literally is costing millions ... billions even. It's not the chemicals they use, it's the trials and the lawyers and all that.

[Darias]

[Replying to post 1 by WinePusher]

I think this interview is extremely relevant for this thread:

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[RescuedByMary]

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[Darias]

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Okay, you pose a name in the form of a question that doesn't really address any of the issues brought up in the op.

Then you post 2 images featuring two completely different people; they don't even look alike. Timothy McVeigh looks decades younger than the police officer, and their chins and ear shapes are completely different. Even if I wanted to believe they were the same person, I could not, because anyone who has the sufficient capacity to recognize faces correctly can see as clear as day that these are not in any way shape or form the same persons -- not even close.

There are people in this world who suffer from face blindness, in that they cannot conceptualize the entire face -- or even recognize loved ones. They sometimes can only remember ears or noses or eyes but not be able to put them all together. Maybe the person who creates those image macros suffers from that, because most capable human beings are able to clearly distinguish the differences between two entirely different persons.

Lastly, you pose a claim, that the Rockerfellers and the Greenbergs want to start a war, without making a logical connection between the initial statement, and the pictures. Even if this claim were true, could you at least be troubled to explain the connection -- or make the case, with evidence and not pictures thrown together?

Anyone can make a post like yours, but you actually have to make a case in order to be taken seriously. I can do what you did too, see:


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See how these claims and pictures were totally random and had nothing to do with each other despite minor resemblances? See how my final statement made no sense whatsoever, never-mind the fact I failed to support it with evidence.

You can't debate like that, because if you can't convince people with reason and evidence and logical arguments -- then no one will believe you.

[RescuedByMary]

[Replying to post 14 by Darias]





The issue in the op is moot when ou realize that the event is a Hoax to begin with. That's the point. The Boston Smoke Bomb was just that - a Smoke Bomb - You know as in ::

A smoke bomb is a firework designed to produce smoke upon ignition. Smoke bombs are useful to military units, airsoft games, paintball games, self-defense and pranks.

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Go back and watch the video that the Main Stream Media put out as the so called "Terrorist Attack". As a matter of fact watch it several times. Because the more carefully you observe this event the more you realize there is no way anyone could have been hurt..


Think for a moment friend. The Oklahoma City fake bombing took place April 19, 1995. That's almost 20 years ago. Don't you think that Timmy would look a little bit older today in a current picture like the one I posted ???


In your post you say that they are, "two completely different people;" "completely different" How then do recognize the comparison ???


The fake State Police Officer is Tim, Ok ? It's him.



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[100%atheist]

The terrorist attack in Boston has reignited some older issues that were pretty prevalent under the Bush Administration.

Questions:

1) There was some contreversy regarding miranda rights and whether or not they should of have extended to this suspect. Should miranda rights, and all the other constitutional liberties, be afforded to suspects under all circumstances? Or should there be some special exceptions where these rights are suspended?

I don't think reading Miranda rights magically change anything in the real world (not in the world of law, which is an imaginary world). If a suspect won't say a word, s/he can remain silent. What are the guys in uniforms are going to do to her/him? Torture? Well, I am completely against torture. But Miranda rights is a law-world abstract concept. If information is needed urgently and there is a good reason that suspect will be willing to share it (without torture), I am all for asking questions first and then reading some "rights" later. After all, anything said before reading those "rights" can be discarded as evidence.

2) There is a debate regarding if the suspect, if convicted of all charges beyond a reasonable doubt, should receive the death penalty. Timothy McVeigh was sentenced to death. Do you think the death penalty should be considered or completely ruled out?

I am universally against the death penalty; too much discussions, even a single error is a too big of a mistake, ... some nut cases can be found dead of multiple head and chest injuries as a result of an attempted escape.

Regarding this specific case of the younger Boston bomber, it doesn't seems he played a key role in the bombing but rather was an instrument in hands of his older brother. Why doesn't he deserve another chance?

[RescuedByMary]

[Replying to post 16 by 100%atheist]



Excuse me but you people don't really believe this Hoax, do you???

I mean seriously, it's obviously a fraud.

[100%atheist]

[Replying to post 16 by 100%atheist]



Excuse me but you people don't really believe this Hoax, do you???

I mean seriously, it's obviously a fraud.

What is "IT"?

[RescuedByMary]

[Replying to post 16 by 100%atheist]



Excuse me but you people don't really believe this Hoax, do you???

I mean seriously, it's obviously a fraud.

What is "IT"?

The Boston Smoke Bomb Hoax...


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[100%atheist]

[Replying to post 16 by 100%atheist]



Excuse me but you people don't really believe this Hoax, do you???

I mean seriously, it's obviously a fraud.

What is "IT"?

The Boston Smoke Bomb Hoax...


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I have never heard of "The Boston Smoke Bomb Hoax". Is it important? If yes, then why is it important?