IRS Asked Pro-Life Group for the Content of Their Prayers

[East of Eden]

http://washingtonexaminer.com/congressm ... le/2529924

Anybody not think this is a gross violation of the separation of church and state?

And some wonder why people worry about a tyrannical government.

[100%atheist]

Your inability to interpret a poll has nothing to do with my character. If you don't think the fact 23% of liberals don't think cheating on taxes is a moral issue (compared to 8% of conservatives) is significant, than that says a lot about your character. If the question is so irrelevant why did the pollsters ask it?

I don't think it is very interesting to play misinterpretation games. Note that I am not the first one who pointed out that "not a moral issue" does NOT mean "morally okay".

That is your opinion, which I reject.

I personally think that this is not a moral issue AND that everyone MUST not lie about their income. If you don't understand this, no one can help you because you seem to refuse any help (especially from evil liberasts).

It seems that in order to promote radical conservative agenda, ultra-conservatives are lying at every corner. I truly believe in my heart that this is the truth.

So you call someone a liar, and can't man up and back it up. That says a lot about you and your fellow ultra-liberal radicals.

Reading your responses, I now think that the only teachable lesson of our [attempted] conversation is dftt.

[otseng]

I don't even think that such lack of integrity is characteristic of a Christian. I think it is just your personal rotten character

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[Bust Nak]

At least in my country there are countless opportunities for someone to cheat on his taxes with no reasonable expectation of being caught. Fear of punishment might limit how much someone cheats, but that alone certainly would not prevent someone from cheating at all.

Fear of punishment is but one factor. The point was there are unwanted consequences, which might or might not have anything to do with the law, even for things that you think is OK.

If someone thinks it is okay to cheat on his taxes then it is unrealistic to suggest that this person will never cheat on his taxes. That is no practical difference between saying someone thinks it is okay to cheat on his taxes and saying that someone cheats on his taxes.

I am not suggesting such a thing. What I am suggesting is thinking it's okay to cheat is not an indication that one would cheat. It's obvious if you flip it round, right? Is there any practical difference between saying someone thinks it is wrong to cheat on his taxes and saying that someone would not cheat on his taxes? Thinking is wrong is not an indication that one wouldn't cheat, right?

As an aside, can you confirm one way or the other, whether treating something as "not a moral issue" mean "morally okay" as EoE suggest?

That is your opinion, which I reject.

It's hardly a matter of opinion. The poll said 6% vs 4% thinks it's morally acceptible to cheat, that should have been the end of it.

Can you offer some justification for yout case, or counter-argument to our justication for thinking not a moral issure doesn't mean morally acceptable?

[East of Eden]

Your inability to interpret a poll has nothing to do with my character. If you don't think the fact 23% of liberals don't think cheating on taxes is a moral issue (compared to 8% of conservatives) is significant, than that says a lot about your character. If the question is so irrelevant why did the pollsters ask it?

I don't think it is very interesting to play misinterpretation games. Note that I am not the first one who pointed out that "not a moral issue" does NOT mean "morally okay".

That is your opinion, which I reject.

I personally think that this is not a moral issue AND that everyone MUST not lie about their income. If you don't understand this, no one can help you because you seem to refuse any help (especially from evil liberasts).

It seems that in order to promote radical conservative agenda, ultra-conservatives are lying at every corner. I truly believe in my heart that this is the truth.

So you call someone a liar, and can't man up and back it up. That says a lot about you and your fellow ultra-liberal radicals.

Reading your responses, I now think that the only teachable lesson of our [attempted] conversation is dftt.

Finally something we can agree on.

[McCulloch]

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That says a lot about you and your fellow ultra-liberal radicals.

If someone does not claim to be something, do not impose a label on that person.

I now think that the only teachable lesson of our [attempted] conversation is dftt. [Dont Feed The Trolls]

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To both: try to stay on topic. We are debating issues not personalities.

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