Are the Seven Noahide Laws being written into US Law

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Are the Seven Noahide Laws being written into US Law

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McCullah please read.... wrote:I thought this news article might be interesting to you.....I hope you don't mind my sharing it here....it has to do with 'one world religion' being discussed in the UN. Please read this.....

Rabbi calls for 'UN of religions'

I am not pushing any agenda just wanted to share some important news.

this article can give you more background.....please read this also.
Kabbalist Blesses Jones: Now´s the Time to Find Holy Lost Ark

Happy debating, and I hope you share this and debate the issues they present to all of us, theists and atheists, alike. AND it was prophecied over 2000 years ago.....hope you have a bible, and will look up some of these things. By the Way, LAWS of NOAH, are written into public law in the USA...and many are coming under it. :| Please don't be fooled into agreeing with the SANHEDRIN and the KABBALAH. Google them and see what they are all about.

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  • Are the The Seven Noahide Laws being written into public law in the USA? Specifically, the first, "Idolatry is forbidden. Man is commanded to believe in the One G-d alone and worship only Him." Are US lawmakers sidestepping the first amendment and creating an established religion?
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lifeinhim61 wrote:ANYONE, who does not follow these Noahide laws will be tried in the SANHEDRIN COURTS, and be beheaded.
I must ask, how do you know? How do you know that there will ever be a "One World Religion", and how do you know that it will be the"Lubavitch movement"? Is it all in Revelation or somewhere else in the NT?
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Yes, there are mentions of these things in the bible. Maybe you can see that this is a real threat to all mankind. The One World Religion will lead to other things as talked about in Revelation. Yes, that is true. The One World Religion is mentioned in many different texts. I don't know that the "Lubavitch movement" that you are talking about is all there is. It may interest you to know that many atheists follow the Sanhedrin teachings given in the Babylonain Talmud.

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lifeinhim61 wrote:Yes, there are mentions of these things in the bible. Maybe you can see that this is a real threat to all mankind. The One World Religion will lead to other things as talked about in Revelation. Yes, that is true. The One World Religion is mentioned in many different texts.
I don't believe you. Would you please cite specific passages where these things are taught?
lifeinhim61 wrote:I don't know that the "Lubavitch movement" that you are talking about is all there is. It may interest you to know that many atheists follow the Sanhedrin teachings given in the Babylonain Talmud.
Which atheists would those be?
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While I haven't read all of the various citations, I have to say this all seems rather far-fetched.

I noted that Dick Gephardt seems to have been sponsoring these 'declarations'. Also Jon Kyl who I think is a Republican from AZ. At least we have bi-partisan support for whatever it is.

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lifeinhim61 wrote: Yes, there are mentions of these things in the bible.
McCulloch wrote: I don't believe you. Would you please cite specific passages where these things are taught?
micatala wrote: While I haven't read all of the various citations, I have to say this all seems rather far-fetched.
I’ve been learning so much. Did you know that “Burning Man” is a Satanic festival?

It’s really very simple…

In the last days, there will be a great apostasy…

2Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

1Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
4:3 Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.
24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Daniel has a vision that the great harlot church will ally with a system of government figuratively called "the beast"…

Daniel 7:19, 23 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet... Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon the earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

This was foretold even earlier…

[ There is] a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof. Ezekiel 22:25

But if you need undeniable, concrete proof of the "One World Religion", here it is…

Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
17:5 And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
17:9 And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him [are] called, and chosen, and faithful.
17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

See? There it is, clear as day.

In case you’re not convinced yet, here are a few more relevant texts, with commentary, from Mystery Babylon: One World Religion

In the book of Zechariah we see three evil women as they unite to deliver the world system over to the Antichrist. Zechariah described his vision, “Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah (The third woman is in the ephah.) between the earth and the heaven. Then said I to the angel that talked with me, whither do these bear the ephah? And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar (Babylon) …” (Zechariah 5:9-11a)
The Holy Scripture has perfectly foretold of this One World Religious order that would give credibility and power to the One World Political System. This religious system or its primary leader is called a beast and/or a false prophet. Here is John the Revelator’s first description. “And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.” (Revelation 13:11)
Since the Mark of the Beast (666) is a religious mark identifying the person as a worshipper of the new godhood, no person can be redeemed or saved after receiving this mark. They are lost forever. “And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.” (Revelation 19:20)

This religious whore is a great fornicator and is guilty of changing, twisting, and debauching the Word of God. God has pronounced judgment on anyone who adds to or subtracts from the Word of God. "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." (Revelation 22:18-19)
And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto His people. Exodus 32:14

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In answer to McColloch's questions two posts above:

Thank you for being kind and polite about this topic, I'm not a debater by nature, so please forgive me if I'm not being totally specific. Please, I ask that you be respectful and read the scriptures that are quoted below, and try not to respond negatively about the authenticity of GOD or the BIBLE. If you do this, I simply will not respond. I take this topc very seriously as a Christian.

McColloch said:

1.I don't believe you. Would you please cite specific passages where these things are taught?

2. Which atheists would those be?


First, to address the issue of atheists following the Bablonian Talmud.

First off, it says the atheist must be of Jewish birth. They must believe in the Babylonian Talmud. The Talmud does not follow the Torah, and includes 613 laws that came from Torah texts, and have been expanded(twisted the meanings of the original verses or taken out of context)...This talmud "NULLIFIES" the WORD OF GOD. It reverses it. Present‑day Jews are from of every race of man, and they do not have any genealogical or racial derivation from the ancient peoples of the Holy Land. Although, DNA can prove the lineage to a predominate gene found in this particular part of the world. Many of the atheist Jewish people came from Russia. Many of the Sanhedrin also came from Russia. Russia had banned their religion as it did with Christianity. But today, many who follow the Babylonian Talmud, being Jewish by birth, and do deny the Deity of GOD. So following a Babylonian Talmud, nullifies the Taroh, for them. Do I know how many Atheists there are that are Jewish and use the Babylonian Talmud? No. They are self proclaimed athesists, that often come from the Sanhedrin lineage.


Second, to address the Sanhedrin and their role in the UN....

The Sanhedrin have set themselves up to be the only High Court of LAW, if the UN accepts their proposal with the Muslim clerics. In their perversions and distrortions, they have violated even the basic Laws of God in the Ten Commandments. They will hide behind the presumption that they operate in God's laws. They boast about God's Laws and yet they break the laws in the process. They are working on a one world religion that accepts many religions....ushering in peace to the middle east. But this peace will be short lived at most.....because we all know that Israel has been prime real estate for a long time now.

There are a lot of scripture that goes into this, and I am only giving a few as examples. I am not going to post the scriptures outright. Please do take time to read them.

Man's enemy is in his own house; Micah 7:5-7 (Ishmael and Issac were brothers, so Israel and the Islamic Arab nation's are cousins)

See 2 Peter 2:1-10

Let's see why the Sanhedrin need a government to accept the Laws of Noah in order for them to enforce their Babylonian Talmud...... and why the Laws of Noah were made to look innocent.

See Acts 18:12-16; Acts 23:1-3

Please continue reading the rest of the chapter 23 in Acts.....can you see the correlation that the Sanhedrin were using a corrupted version of the law when they crucified Jesus; and when they put Paul on trial, and Paul called them on it then? He was referring to the Talmud they were using back then. The Sanhedrin took the laws of Moses-10 laws-and have to date converted them to 613 laws found in the Talmud!

Acts 23:29

"Whom I perceived to be accused of the questions of their law, but to have nothing laid to his charge worthy of death or of bonds."


By the way, the Sanhedrin are the same, they brought Jesus before the Roman government, to demand his death. It is the same group that the Scribes and Pharisees came from. When Jesus spoke to the Pharisees and later to the Sanhedrin, His statements were directed towards their failure of the law of Moses. Have you thought, why have we not heard about them until now? Because they have literally been kicked out of every country for trying to enforce these Noahide Laws, and the Babylonian Talmud for centuries. Now, when Israel became a nation once more, they had a place that they could set up shop. Now they are looking for a larger audience. They snuck the Public Law in under the radar in the United States....how many more countries will they get to sign on now?

Thank you for reading this, I know it's long. :)

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lifeinhim61 wrote:Please, I ask that you be respectful and read the scriptures that are quoted below, and try not to respond negatively about the authenticity of GOD or the BIBLE. If you do this, I simply will not respond. I take this topic very seriously as a Christian.
Thank you for your response. I will try to be respectful and honest in my own responses. However, I cannot promise not to question the authenticity of the Bible or the existence of God. I simply do not believe in the existence of God nor do I believe in the reliability of the scriptures. I do, however, have to respect the fact that you do believe in both. If I challenge these points, I hope to do it without disrespect.
lifeinhim61 wrote:First, to address the issue of atheists following the Bablonian Talmud.
First off, it says the atheist must be of Jewish birth. They must believe in the Babylonian Talmud. The Talmud does not follow the Torah, and includes 613 laws that came from Torah texts, and have been expanded (twisted the meanings of the original verses or taken out of context)...This talmud "NULLIFIES" the WORD OF GOD. It reverses it. Present‑day Jews are from of every race of man, and they do not have any genealogical or racial derivation from the ancient peoples of the Holy Land. Although, DNA can prove the lineage to a predominate gene found in this particular part of the world. Many of the atheist Jewish people came from Russia. Many of the Sanhedrin also came from Russia. Russia had banned their religion as it did with Christianity. But today, many who follow the Babylonian Talmud, being Jewish by birth, and do deny the Deity of GOD. So following a Babylonian Talmud, nullifies the Taroh, for them. Do I know how many Atheists there are that are Jewish and use the Babylonian Talmud? No. They are self proclaimed athesists, that often come from the Sanhedrin lineage.
Do forgive my ignorance, but as I understand the Talmud, it is a religious document proclaiming rules and teachings about some form of Deity. How can one be an atheist and also believe in the Babylonian Talmud?

Let me review the references and get back to you in another post.
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McColloch:

An athiest can believe in the Bablonian Talmud because it nullifies the Bible. If they are born Jewish, they must still abide by the Jewish laws. One choses to be an Atheist, like one chooses to be a Christian. Jews are cultural group of people who abide by their laws, set apart from other cultural groups.

Thank you, Lotan, for pointing out what you found in the scriptures that are Bible Prophecies.

Thank you, Mitalica, for saying it all seems so far fetched, because it seems that way to me as well. But it is reality.

Thank you, McCulloch, for being respectful and for looking at the materials presented.

The answers you seek can be found online in the Babylonian Talmud. If you read it, you may understand just how twisted the religious sect (Sanhedrin) really is. The Sanhedrin have the Hasidic Jews under their belts.

Here is a website that gives you some difinitions of Jewish terminology and such....http://www.jewfaq.org/

I believe this website gives an english translation of the Babylon Talmud...http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm

Simply click on the cd, and it will take you into that tract. There is a lot of reading, because it covers 613 laws. I think the laws of the court are desribed somewhere between the 5th and the 8th....since I haven't finished my own studies into this; I am leaving you to figure out all it intells, just as I am seeking knowledge of these laws..as well.

a second website on the Babylonian Talmud as a study in English.....

http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~elsegal/TalmudPage.html

The Babylonian Talmud, may seem harmless to you, but I assure you it is not. This is what the Sanhedriin will judge anyone and everyone; who breaks the Noahide laws. If the Sanhedrin and the Muslims join into a One World Religion, there could be serious consequences for all of us. Both religious groups hold beheadings as a punishment for violating their religious laws. We will have to wait and see if they succeed with the UN proposal.

Let me say this. I do not hate the Jews or the Muslims, and there is some good in all people. So please, do not twist anything presented by me; as me hating, or being a white surpremist, or any of these things. You would be judging me for presenting the things that I have found thus far. That would not be fair for me or for you, in continuing to uncover the truth about a current event. I take this very seriously and care about all people, athiests are no different in my eyes than Christians or Jews... we are all one.

Thank you.

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lifeinhim61 wrote:The answers you seek can be found online in the Babylonian Talmud.
Here's a sample, Tidbits From The Talmud...

Why do I keep finding pictures of aliens?

lifeinhim61, may I ask your opinion of Sherry Shriner? She seems to be interested in this topic as well as 'Bible codes'.
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The Babylonian Talmud, may seem harmless to you, but I assure you it is not. This is what the Sanhedriin will judge anyone and everyone; who breaks the Noahide laws.
They may judge all they wish. They have no power to enforce such judgements on the scale described.
If the Sanhedrin and the Muslims join into a One World Religion, there could be serious consequences for all of us. Both religious groups hold beheadings as a punishment for violating their religious laws.
Such a union is highly improbable if not impossible considering that the Muslims are not a single unified church but rather made up of numerous divisions which would seem to continue to fracture.

Any One World religion is a highly implausible construction since, historically, any union between two religious groups results in three groups, namely the new religion and holdouts from the original two. While elimination of the holdouts is possible, a large amount of time and effort would be expended, making a new schism likely.
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