Erik Rush, a commentator on Fox News , twitter response to the Boston Marathon bombings was Muslims are evil, lets kill them all
Considering everything, should Fox News still keep this person as a guest speaker?
Inappropriate Response to Boston Bombing.
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Post #11My problem isn't that some people first thought it was an Islamic extremist attack, it's just saying "let's kill all the Muslims" isn't anywhere close to such speculation; it goes beyond that. Someone doesn't say "let's kill all the Christians" when talking about WBC or other nutters.East of Eden wrote:Would you be OK if he had qualified it to 'radical, jihadist Muslims'? You know, the type that may have done this crime in Boston. Some radical Muslim websites were pretty happy about it.
There's no indication that it was an Islamist attack, as terrorists usually commit suicide and don't have the technical know how to time 2 pressure cooker bombs perfectly. Al Qaida would have claimed it already if they had done it... then again there's always the possibility of a lone wolf type criminal.
If this turns out to be a right wing extremist, rather than just a lone insane individual, would it be appropriate if someone from MSNBC said "let's kill all these damn tea partiers"
Using that language goes beyond slurs; you don't joke about killing off entire groups of people. It's pretty much as worse as you can get. You can't call for the death of all Muslims just because you automatically assumes one of their fringe members did this crime. You'd be more morally justified saying the n word on national television than saying something like that.
This isn't a matter of political correctness, just decency and stupidity. He can say or think whatever he wants, and I don't care if Fox keeps him as a guest, it just means less legitimacy for their network. Freedom is awesome but it has consequences -- in this case for Fox.
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Post #12I agree, and wish FOX would let this guy go. I only wish the left would have the same standard when it comes to such statements. Keith Olbermann comes to mind.Darias wrote:My problem isn't that some people first thought it was an Islamic extremist attack, it's just saying "let's kill all the Muslims" isn't anywhere close to such speculation; it goes beyond that. Someone doesn't say "let's kill all the Christians" when talking about WBC or other nutters.East of Eden wrote:Would you be OK if he had qualified it to 'radical, jihadist Muslims'? You know, the type that may have done this crime in Boston. Some radical Muslim websites were pretty happy about it.
There's no indication that it was an Islamist attack, as terrorists usually commit suicide and don't have the technical know how to time 2 pressure cooker bombs perfectly. Al Qaida would have claimed it already if they had done it... then again there's always the possibility of a lone wolf type criminal.
If this turns out to be a right wing extremist, rather than just a lone insane individual, would it be appropriate if someone from MSNBC said "let's kill all these damn tea partiers"
Using that language goes beyond slurs; you don't joke about killing off entire groups of people. It's pretty much as worse as you can get. You can't call for the death of all Muslims just because you automatically assumes one of their fringe members did this crime. You'd be more morally justified saying the n word on national television than saying something like that.
This isn't a matter of political correctness, just decency and stupidity. He can say or think whatever he wants, and I don't care if Fox keeps him as a guest, it just means less legitimacy for their network. Freedom is awesome but it has consequences -- in this case for Fox.
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Post #13Whom did Olbermann say we should kill? (Is he still on the air? I don't really follow him.)East of Eden wrote:I agree, and wish FOX would let this guy go. I only wish the left would have the same standard when it comes to such statements. Keith Olbermann comes to mind.
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Post #14Then you will be happy to hear his contract with MSNBC was cancelled nearly two and a half years ago.I agree, and wish FOX would let this guy go. I only wish the left would have the same standard when it comes to such statements. Keith Olbermann comes to mind.
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Post #15I was happy to hear that but what took so long?Wyvern wrote:Then you will be happy to hear his contract with MSNBC was cancelled nearly two and a half years ago.I agree, and wish FOX would let this guy go. I only wish the left would have the same standard when it comes to such statements. Keith Olbermann comes to mind.

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Post #16I don't know if he said to kill someone but he made up for in volume of hateful statements, said on the air, not a tweet. Here's a sample:perfessor wrote: [quote="[url=http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 645#556645]
Whom did Olbermann say we should kill?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whit ... ous-quotes
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Be honest now, EoE. If everyone who said such things was yanked off the air, you wouldn't have Limbaugh to listen to. Or Coulter, Savage, Hannity, and a bunch of others.
In my view, these people can stay on the air. I can laugh at Limbaugh, and you can shake your head at Olbermann. But advocating death to a large class of largely innocent civilians crosses a line, I think you agree.
In my view, these people can stay on the air. I can laugh at Limbaugh, and you can shake your head at Olbermann. But advocating death to a large class of largely innocent civilians crosses a line, I think you agree.
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Post #18Why it took you so long to realize the person you were complaining about had not even been on the air for nearly two and a half years you mean?East of Eden wrote:I was happy to hear that but what took so long?Wyvern wrote:Then you will be happy to hear his contract with MSNBC was cancelled nearly two and a half years ago.I agree, and wish FOX would let this guy go. I only wish the left would have the same standard when it comes to such statements. Keith Olbermann comes to mind.
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I don't believe in censorship, but agree with you about the seriousness of advocating death. The fact that this was made on a tweet rather than a broadcast makes it somewhat of a gray area. I don't think any of us would want to be judged on our lifetime of internet statements.perfessor wrote: Be honest now, EoE. If everyone who said such things was yanked off the air, you wouldn't have Limbaugh to listen to. Or Coulter, Savage, Hannity, and a bunch of others.
In my view, these people can stay on the air. I can laugh at Limbaugh, and you can shake your head at Olbermann. But advocating death to a large class of largely innocent civilians crosses a line, I think you agree.
"We are fooling ourselves if we imagine that we can ever make the authentic Gospel popular......it is too simple in an age of rationalism; too narrow in an age of pluralism; too humiliating in an age of self-confidence; too demanding in an age of permissiveness; and too unpatriotic in an age of blind nationalism." Rev. John R.W. Stott, CBE
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Well, I certainly would want to be judged on the statements I make in this forum.East of Eden wrote:I don't believe in censorship, but agree with you about the seriousness of advocating death. The fact that this was made on a tweet rather than a broadcast makes it somewhat of a gray area. I don't think any of us would want to be judged on our lifetime of internet statements.perfessor wrote: Be honest now, EoE. If everyone who said such things was yanked off the air, you wouldn't have Limbaugh to listen to. Or Coulter, Savage, Hannity, and a bunch of others.
In my view, these people can stay on the air. I can laugh at Limbaugh, and you can shake your head at Olbermann. But advocating death to a large class of largely innocent civilians crosses a line, I think you agree.
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Also want to add, there's a very slim chance these our Muslims, sounds more like domestic anti-government organizations, if not the work of one or two lone nuts.