Abortion Violence.

[jcrawford]

While Americans are focused on violence in other parts of the world, domestic terrorists are hard at work killing all the unborn children of Christian, Jewish and Muslim men they can get their bloody hands on.

Christian and Jewish politicians in New York like Hill and Bill Clinton, bloody Bloomberg and Spitzer all support the indiscriminate killing of the unborn babies of married Christian, Jewish and Muslim men in America.

So who are the terrorists that Homeland Security is supposed to be protecting us from? Muslim, Jewish and Christian abortionists? Or are all the baby-killing medical doctors secular supremacists who coudn't care less whose babies they kill?

[The Persnickety Platypus]

Indeed, in America it has become a crime for one to speak out for the poor.

If it was a crime, you and all the Christians, Jews and Muslims who do provide for the poor with their taxes would be locked up.

You must be confusing America with Europe. Our taxes do not support the poor. Most of the money is currently being spent on guns and missles. Much more meaningful endeavors.

Who says I want to end abortion? I just don't want the dirty secular abortionists killing the unborn children of Christian, Jewish and Muslim men without their informed consent.

Well, you have been giving us all very mixed messages.

What exactly are you arguing? Something about abortions being performed on wives without the husbands prior knowledge? I have never heard of any such occurance. How often does it happen? What percentage of abortions are performed under these circumstances? Name some specific examples. I am sure stuff like this happens every now and then, but it can't possibly be as big an issue as you are letting on. Untill I get see some statistics/reports of this, it shall remain so as far as I am concerned.

At any rate, how are you going to put an end to these hypothetical unconsented abortions? Arn't unwanted pregnancies the stem of this problem as well? Does the argument really change?

Tell it to the 20 million Muslims who live under international secular socialism in Europe now

And are loving it, despite continuously complaining about how their religion is not granted the status of an elevated government faction.

Notice how none are moving back to the middle east.

Another site you should find interesting. It compares sex statistics from liberal/socialist Netherlands, France, and Germany to the United States, and uses this data to reach conclusions on how to best prevent irresponsible sex on the home front.

Who are you working for - UN propagandists?

I am working for the truth.

But if you are going to completely disregard blatant evidence that easily, I suppose there is no point in me pursuing this subject.

Strange, I thought you wanted to end the abortion injustice. I just gave you a solution.

Do some research.

I can't.

Then can you really blame me for not taking your rambling seriously?

Back your rhetoric up. Give me some evidence. Offer some solutions. Do something besides blaming "secularists".

[jcrawford]

At any rate, how are you going to put an end to these hypothetical unconsented abortions?

By comparing and equating secular, feminist and sexist male abortionists to other violent extremists responsible for domestic violence and terrorism in the world.

Secular, feminist and sexist male abortionists are a greater threat to the domestic tranquility of married Christian, Jewish and Muslim men in America than any other group here because they have the full support and backing of the SCOTUS.

[jcrawford]

What exactly are you arguing? Something about abortions being performed on wives without the husbands prior knowledge? I have never heard of any such occurance. How often does it happen? What percentage of abortions are performed under these circumstances? Name some specific examples. I am sure stuff like this happens every now and then, but it can't possibly be as big an issue as you are letting on. Untill I get see some statistics/reports of this, it shall remain so as far as I am concerned.

Secular statistics/reports add nothing to the common knowledge of the fact that secular lawyers, judges and politicians in America permit secular abortionists to kill the unborn babies of women without the father's informed consent and written permission whether the woman is married or not, or whether the woman is Christian, Jewish, Muslim or any other religion.

Based on this common knowledge and fact, it may be assumed that millions of Christian, Jewish and Muslim women have either been forced by their husbands or boyfriends to get abortions or that millions of Christian, Jewish and Muslim men have been denied the right to know that their wives are visiting secular abortion clinics without the father's knowledge or permission. Knowing that the law permits women to get abortions without the father's knowledge or consent, and that there is no evidence of married Christian, Jewish and Muslim men forcing their wives to get abortions, it is realistic to proclaim the obvious fact that millions of wives and teenage daughters of married Christian, Jewish and Muslim men have had their unborn infants slain by secular abortionists without the informed consent and written permission of Christian, Jewish or Muslim husbands and fathers.

[McCulloch]

... secular, feminist and sexist male abortionists to other violent extremists responsible for domestic violence and terrorism in the world. ... Secular, feminist and sexist male abortionists are a greater threat to the domestic tranquility of married Christian, Jewish and Muslim men in America than any other group ...

There is no right to reproduction. You may not unilaterally reproduce. If you are a woman, you must get impregnated in order to reproduce. This takes, at the very minimum, a few minutes of willing cooperation by another person. Biology is not fair. If you are a male, in order to reproduce, you must find a woman willing to invest significantly more time to your joint progeny. If she seeks an abortion, you have rather obviously failed in that rather key reproductive task.
Christian, Jewish and Muslim men have no reason to be angry at abortionists. They are only providing a service to those who seek it. If the women pregnant by Christian, Jewish and Muslim men seek abortions, it is not because the abortionists provide that service. It may be because the male has failed to convince her that it would be wise to carry the pregnancy to term. It is sometimes hard to face the failure of one's own biological imperative. Therefore, some men try to place the blame on a third party rather than where it belongs.

[Cephus]

Jewish and Muslim men have no reason to be angry at abortionists. They are only providing a service to those who seek it. If the women pregnant by Christian, Jewish and Muslim men seek abortions, it is not because the abortionists provide that service. It may be because the male has failed to convince her that it would be wise to carry the pregnancy to term. It is sometimes hard to face the failure of one's own biological imperative. Therefore, some men try to place the blame on a third party rather than where it belongs.

Isn't that a hallmark of Christianity, indeed all religion, though? It's a lot easier to blame "the devil" than it is to accept responsibility for yourself, it's simpler to point fingers at others than take the blame for your own actions. And, in fact, in cases like this where we've got a male ego-trip going, it's apparently difficult for some Christians to get a grip on the fact that they don't have the kind of control they'd like to have over "their women". But, of course, instead of learning that their worldview might just be laughably out of date, they'd rather point their fingers at doctors and pretend they're leading their wives and girlfriends astray.

It's easier than dealing with reality.

[The Persnickety Platypus]

By comparing and equating secular, feminist and sexist male abortionists to other violent extremists responsible for domestic violence and terrorism in the world.

Are you going to conduct a "war on terror" against them as well?

Forgive me, but it still sounds like your plan of action involves nothing more than useless whining. You need to attack the root of the problem.

[jcrawford]

... secular, feminist and sexist male abortionists to other violent extremists responsible for domestic violence and terrorism in the world. ... Secular, feminist and sexist male abortionists are a greater threat to the domestic tranquility of married Christian, Jewish and Muslim men in America than any other group ...

There is no right to reproduction.

That's a good one, McCulloch. For the record books. I'm here to tell you that married Christian, Jewish and Muslim men and women have the equal right to have as many children as God blesses their marriage with; and until secular abortion advocates and the SCOTUS stop denying married CJ&M men their God-given right to sexual reproduction within marriage, no CJ&M man or woman has to recognize or respect the self-proclaimed rights of anyone else.

Christian, Jewish and Muslim men have no reason to be angry at abortionists.

CJ&M men have every reason and right to be dam angry at bloody secular abortionists and their political supporters. Male abortionists are worse than adulterers, rapists and pedophiles and should be summarily arrested, given a speedy trial and executed by law. No secular judge has the right to allow another man to kill the God-given human foetus of a married Christian, Jewish and Muslim husband without his informed consent and written permission.

Judges who allow that sort of thing may be condemned by Christian, Jewish and Muslim men. Any citizen who advocates or supports the right of a secular medicine man to kill the unborn offspring of Christian, Jewish and Muslim marriages may be equally condemned. Male politicians who run for office on the abortion rights platform of pro-choice for women only are already condemned.

[jcrawford]

Jewish and Muslim men have no reason to be angry at abortionists.

But, of course, instead of learning that their worldview might just be laughably out of date, they'd rather point their fingers at doctors and pretend they're leading their wives and girlfriends astray.

What's wrong with pointing fingers at secular judges and Christian medicine men who consent to kill the offspring of married Jewish and Muslim fathers without their informed consent and written permission? Don't married Jewish rabbis and Islamic imams have the right to father children in America anymore? Why not? Because secular feminists, adulterers, homosexuals and male abortionists don't want them to?

[jcrawford]

By comparing and equating secular, feminist and sexist male abortionists to other violent extremists responsible for domestic violence and terrorism in the world.

Forgive me, but it still sounds like your plan of action involves nothing more than useless whining. You need to attack the root of the problem.

Secularism is the root of the problem and it goes back to the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror. Just look at the tens of millions of religious people whom secular communists and national socialists butchered in Europe alone during the last century. That's why secularists must be driven out of political office in both Europe and America this century - in this decade - the sooner the better for Jewish and Muslim families.

[McCulloch]

Don't married Jewish rabbis and Islamic imams have the right to father children in America anymore? Why not? Because secular feminists, adulterers, homosexuals and male abortionists don't want them to?

No man has the unilateral right to father children. In order to father children, a man must obtain consent from a woman who will bear that child. If that woman seeks an abortion, then that man has obviously failed to obtain her consent.
It has nothing to do with the man's religion. It has nothing to do with secular feminists, adulterers, homosexuals or male abortionists. Many secular feminists are pleased by the arrival of children into religious and non-religious families. My wife's Ob/Gyn is a woman who provides medically necessary abortions and assists in childbirth. Abortionists do not want women to not have children. Abortionists do not discriminate based on religion. They provide a service for pregnant women who do not wish to be pregnant. It is the woman's choice. Why do you continue to blame the others?