US Forces fighting Chrisitian Organisation in Uganda

[Charles Darwin]

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How dare he!?

Funny how christians are all for killing muslim terrorists but boy when the terrorists are christians..whole nother story!

[chris_brown207]

How dare he!?

Funny how christians are all for killing muslim terrorists but boy when the terrorists are christians..whole nother story!

What! Christian terrorists! Get out. (sorry, little bit of sarcasm)

I agree. I am confronted with this quite a bit - the "all terrorists are Muslim" sentiment. How soon we forget that terrorism was actually practiced and developed in "Christian" nations such as the US, England, and Ireland. Matter of the fact, the terror tactics used by many groups in Arabic nations today where the same ones developed by Christian terrorists in Ireland. My community lost of couple of shipmates to those tactics.

Trivia - what religion was the last terrorist who flew a plane into a US building?

Answer: He was raised Catholic - It was an angry white guy who flew his private plane into an IRS building in Austin Texas. His anger at the Catholic Church was part of his motivation.

Now, I am not saying that Muslims are not involved in the majority of terrorist acts in our countries recent history. However, it bugs me to hear Christian history being whitewashed so that some Christians feel they have a right to condemn a religion as a whole. It is the "No True Scotsman" argument over and over. As the saying goes "let he without sin cast the first stone".

[East of Eden]

The LRA is a Christian group?

"The group is based on a number of different beliefs including local religious rituals, mysticism, traditional religion, Acholi nationalism and Christianity."

Wikipedia

The difference is ALL of Christendom condemns these people, while in Egypt, for instance, there are 15,000,000 supporters of Al Queda, according to one recent poll.

What gets me is Clinton sent in the military to protect Muslims who were being abused in Bosnia. Shouldn't we be sending in the military to protect the abused Christians in Egypt?

[East of Eden]

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I agree. I am confronted with this quite a bit - the "all terrorists are Muslim" sentiment.

Nobody is saying that, but at least 98% of terror activity comes from one religion. Can you guess which one?

How soon we forget that terrorism was actually practiced and developed in "Christian" nations such as the US, England, and Ireland. Matter of the fact, the terror tactics used by many groups in Arabic nations today where the same ones developed by Christian terrorists in Ireland. My community lost of couple of shipmates to those tactics.

What went on in Ireland was tribalism. Some of the leaders on both sides were agnostics.

He was raised Catholic - It was an angry white guy who flew his private plane into an IRS building in Austin Texas. His anger at the Catholic Church was part of his motivation.

What teaching of Christ was he following? You can point to lots of the 'prophet's' sayings that justify terror.

Now, I am not saying that Muslims are not involved in the majority of terrorist acts in our countries recent history.

Thank you.

[McCulloch]

The LRA is a Christian group?

They are a bit behind the times. Their attitude was removed from most branches of Christianity several centuries ago.

[ThatGirlAgain]

The LRA is a Christian group?

They are a bit behind the times. Their attitude was removed from most branches of Christianity several centuries ago.

The Lord's Resistance Army

is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the "spokesperson" of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the Holy Spirit, which the group believes can represent itself in many manifestations...The LRA is accused of widespread human rights violations, including murder, abduction, mutilation, sexual enslavement of women and children and forcing children to participate in hostilities.

Holy Corinthians, Batman! I doubt that Paul meant this!

[McCulloch]

Holy Corinthians, Batman! I doubt that Paul meant this!

He probably didn't mean these either:

Two priests demand a heretic to repent as he is tortured.


Torture of a witch, Anne Hendricks, in Amsterdam in 1571


Pope Innocentius III excommunicating the Albigensians (left), Massacre against the Albigensians by the crusaders (right)

Thomas Müntzer (ca. 1489, Stolberg, Saxony-Anhalt – 27 May 1525) was an early Reformation-era German theologian, who became a rebel leader during the Peasants' War. He turned against Luther with several anti-Lutheran writings, and supported the Anabaptists. In the Battle of Frankenhausen, Müntzer and his followers were defeated. He was captured, tortured and decapitated.

[Adurumus]

The LRA is a Christian group?

They are a bit behind the times. Their attitude was removed from most branches of Christianity several centuries ago.

Depending on how much history you know, several centuries isn't that long at all.

But yeah, these guys are nuts. It'd be a bigger issue if they had any sort of sympathy from the Christian community. Luckily, they don't- so we're ethically fine with chasing them down.

Side Note: I find it strange that I gauge the worth-of-effort for hunting maniacs based on how any one faith group sees them... Also, edited, replaced "Histories" with "Centuries".

[JohnPaul]

Holy Corinthians, Batman! I doubt that Paul meant this!

He probably didn't mean these either:

Two priests demand a heretic to repent as he is tortured.


Torture of a witch, Anne Hendricks, in Amsterdam in 1571


Pope Innocentius III excommunicating the Albigensians (left), Massacre against the Albigensians by the crusaders (right)

Thomas Müntzer (ca. 1489, Stolberg, Saxony-Anhalt – 27 May 1525) was an early Reformation-era German theologian, who became a rebel leader during the Peasants' War. He turned against Luther with several anti-Lutheran writings, and supported the Anabaptists. In the Battle of Frankenhausen, Müntzer and his followers were defeated. He was captured, tortured and decapitated.

Historians have called Christianity "The most murderous and bloodthirsty institution ever devised by man." More than 5 million horrible murders and atrocities were commited by organized Christianity during the centuries of the Crusades, the Inquisition, and the Witch Hunts. More than 100,000 women were tortured and killed as witches. This number comes from still existing records of individual churches in Europe. Remember these people were proud of the God's Work they were doing and kept careful records.

The only "sin" of the Albigensian (Cathar) people in southern France was a refusal to accept the Pope as head of their church. Pope Innocent III responded by exterminating them. After the capture of the city of Beziers, the Papal Legate ordered the Pope's troops to "Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet." Translated, this means "Kill them all. God will know his own," or, more loosely, in the modern form "Kill them all and let God sort them out." It is said that this famous Christian quote was used as a slogan or motto by some American military units in Vietnam?

John

[ThatGirlAgain]

Historians have called Christianity "The most murderous and bloodthirsty institution ever devised by man." More than 5 million horrible murders and atrocities were commited by organized Christianity during the centuries of the Crusades, the Inquisition, and the Witch Hunts. More than 100,000 women were tortured and killed as witches. This number comes from still existing records of individual churches in Europe. Remember these people were proud of the God's Work they were doing and kept careful records.

5 million is chicken feed by modern standards. The Nazis killed more Jews than that and many more people besides. Stalin and Mao also killed many millions. The 20th century saw lots of smaller extermination programs that easily rival or exceed anything Christianity did in comparable time periods.

The increase in numbers reflects the greater efficiency of modern technologies in dealing death and the greater numbers of potential victims as much as anything else. But each of these mass slaughters had something very much in common with historical Christianity: an overriding ideology that expected individual consciences to be buried in its service.

A belief system is wrong when it requires or encourages us to perform actions harmful to others that we would never do in the absence of that belief system. Whether or not any gods are involved is irrelevant.