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Sometimes great folk walk among us and we hardly seem to notice.

From Dictatorship to Democracy

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Is Gene Sharp one of the least known Great and positive Influences of our age?
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Does his pragmatic philosophy always hold true?

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I am what Sharp would call a non believer because I am not committed to principled non violence. However where Sharp's techniques can be shown to work I'm all for it. I doubt they work when troops are coming over the mountain with the aim of killing everyone in your village, and if you hang around non violently they will walk you up into the mountains and execute you. Non violence can only work if you get to live long enough to apply it. However I sense that Gene Sharp has given the world something very important. The programming of skilling up the non violent looks to be effective and not pie in the sky idealism.

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Unfortunately, great men are seldom recognized by the societies they live within, for many reasons. At least Sharp is receiving the recognition he deserves from the people he has helped most directly. Yes, I think he will be seen as pivotal to the events we are starting to live through.

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Furrowed Brow wrote:Sometimes great folk walk among us and we hardly seem to notice.

From Dictatorship to Democracy

Gene Sharp

Gene Sharp Lecture

Scientific American on Gene Sharp

Gene Sharp Interview

Is Gene Sharp one of the least known Great and positive Influences of our age?
Will it be left to later generations to fully recognise his worth?
Does his pragmatic philosophy always hold true?
Well, of course, this is my opinion, as you have yours, but if he is being given credit for toppling the Egyptian government...then there is not going to be any Dictatorship to Democracy. Its going straight to the Muslim Brotherhood control and that is not a Democracy in any sense of the word. Positive influence? Not in my book.

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SacredCowBurgers wrote: Well, of course, this is my opinion, as you have yours, but if he is being given credit for toppling the Egyptian government...then there is not going to be any Dictatorship to Democracy. Its going straight to the Muslim Brotherhood control and that is not a Democracy in any sense of the word. Positive influence? Not in my book.
What? ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/26/world ... 6poll.html
Only 17 percent of respondents said they would like to see the Muslim Brotherhood lead the next government

Among presidential candidates, the poll confirmed the widespread belief that Amr Moussa, the head of the Arab League and a former Mubarak foreign minister, is the front-runner. About 9 in 10 have a favorable view of him, including 41 percent who have a very favorable view. Seven in 10 had a favorable view of Mr. Nour, another candidate known for challenging Mr. Mubarak and going to jail, with 32 percent viewing him very favorably. And 57 percent had a favorable view of Mohamed ElBaradei, a Nobel Prize winner and former head of the International Atomic Energy Agency. But many complain that he has spent most of his career outside his native Egypt, and 39 percent of Egyptians reported an unfavorable view of him.

None of the three is considered an Islamist.

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SacredCowBurgers wrote: Well, of course, this is my opinion, as you have yours, but if he is being given credit for toppling the Egyptian government...then there is not going to be any Dictatorship to Democracy. Its going straight to the Muslim Brotherhood control and that is not a Democracy in any sense of the word. Positive influence? Not in my book.
What? ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/26/world ... 6poll.html
Only 17 percent of respondents said they would like to see the Muslim Brotherhood lead the next government

Among presidential candidates, the poll confirmed the widespread belief that Amr Moussa, the head of the Arab League and a former Mubarak foreign minister, is the front-runner. About 9 in 10 have a favorable view of him, including 41 percent who have a very favorable view. Seven in 10 had a favorable view of Mr. Nour, another candidate known for challenging Mr. Mubarak and going to jail, with 32 percent viewing him very favorably. And 57 percent had a favorable view of Mohamed ElBaradei, a Nobel Prize winner and former head of the International Atomic Energy Agency. But many complain that he has spent most of his career outside his native Egypt, and 39 percent of Egyptians reported an unfavorable view of him.

None of the three is considered an Islamist.
Wait and see what happens. Non-Muslim religions are already leaving or getting ready to leave the country.

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SacredCowBurgers wrote: Wait and see what happens. Non-Muslim religions are already leaving or getting ready to leave the country.
Care to provide proof for this claim?

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SacredCowBurgers wrote: Wait and see what happens. Non-Muslim religions are already leaving or getting ready to leave the country.
Care to provide proof for this claim?
Too many to list them all. Here's a few random. Mainstream American media is a worthless news source.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/egypt ... aches.html

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/artic ... 40-wounded

http://levantconsularservice.blogspot.c ... egypt.html

http://www.persecution.org/2011/04/25/e ... ariah-law/

http://www.avaapolitics.com/showthread.php?t=3768

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SacredCowBurgers wrote:
Too many to list them all. Here's a few random. Mainstream American media is a worthless news source.
And the sources you provide have worth?

You have blogs, opinions, forums, biased websites, and a story about Romeo and Juliet.

People will always panic and raise fear and unfounded concern in the face of change. In the US we thought the world was ending over a health care bill. People were up in arms because they thought our president was allegedly not born in our country.

The reliable polls show that the majority of Egyptians support the right of the Islamic groups to have a voice. This does not mean that they in turn support them and would vote for them.

Stop reading sensationalism riddled opinion and start reading the facts.

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SacredCowBurgers wrote:
Too many to list them all. Here's a few random. Mainstream American media is a worthless news source.
And the sources you provide have worth?

You have blogs, opinions, forums, biased websites, and a story about Romeo and Juliet.

People will always panic and raise fear and unfounded concern in the face of change. In the US we thought the world was ending over a health care bill. People were up in arms because they thought our president was allegedly not born in our country.

The reliable polls show that the majority of Egyptians support the right of the Islamic groups to have a voice. This does not mean that they in turn support them and would vote for them.

Stop reading sensationalism riddled opinion and start reading the facts.
Wait and see. And, please, DO NOT ever tell me what to read or not to read. Enjoy the NYT.

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