Human Rights Watch Report on Israeli Apartheid

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Human Rights Watch Report on Israeli Apartheid

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Like the UN and World Court, Human Rights Watch is BIASED AGAINST ISRAEL!

Read part of why this is true, in the view of Zionists:
SummaryThis report consists of a series of case studies that compare Israel’s different treatment of
Jewish settlements to nearby Palestinian communities throughout the West Bank, including
East Jerusalem. It describes the two-tier system of laws, rules, and services that Israel
operates for the two populations in areas in the West Bank under its exclusive control, which
provide preferential services, development, and benefits for Jewish settlers while imposing
harsh conditions on Palestinians. The report highlights Israeli practices the only discernable
purposes of which appear to be promoting life in the settlements while in many instances
stifling growth in Palestinian communities and even forcibly displacing Palestinian residents.
Such different treatment, on the basis of race, ethnicity, and national origin and not narrowly
tailored to meet security or other justifiable goals, violates the fundamental prohibition
against discrimination under human rights law.
It is widely acknowledged that Israel’s settlements in the West Bank, including East
Jerusalem, violate international humanitarian law, which prohibits the occupying power from
transferring its civilian population into the territories it occupies; Israel appears to be the
only country to contest that its settlements are illegal. Human Rights Watch continues to
agree with the nearly universal position [BIAS?]
that Israel should cease its violation of international
humanitarian law by removing its citizens from the West Bank.[/b] This report focuses on the
less-discussed discriminatory aspect of Israeli settlement policies, and analyzes serious and
ongoing violations of other rights in that context.
The case studies in this report show that discriminatory Israeli policies control many aspects
of the day-to-day life of Palestinians who live in areas under exclusive Israeli control and that
those policies often have no conceivable security justification. For example, Jubbet al-Dhib is
a 160-person Palestinian village to the southeast of Bethlehem that is often accessible only
by foot because its only connection to a paved road is a rough, 1.5 kilometer-long dirt track.
Children from Jubbet al-Dhib must walk to schools in other villages several kilometers away
because their own village has no school. Jubbet al-Dhib lacks electricity despite numerous
requests to be connected to the Israeli electric grid, which Israeli authorities have rejected;
Israeli authorities also rejected an internationally donor-funded project that would have
provided the village with solar-powered streetlights. Any meat or milk in the village must be
eaten the same day due to lack of refrigeration; residents often resort to eating preserved
foods instead. Villagers depend for light on candles, kerosene lanterns, and, when they can
afford to fill it with gasoline, a small generator.

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Approximately 350 meters away is the Jewish community of Sde Bar. It has a paved access
road for its population of around 50 people and is connected to Jerusalem by a new, multimillion
dollar highway—the “Lieberman Road�—which bypasses Palestinian cities, towns,
and villages like Jubbet al-Dhib. Sde Bar operates a high school, but Jubbet al-Dhib students
are ineligible to attend; for Palestinians, settlements are closed military areas that may be
entered only with special military permits. Residents of Sde Bar have the amenities common
to any Israeli town, such as refrigerators and electric lights, which Jubbet al-Dhib villagers
can see from their homes at night.
Both Jubbet al-Dhib and Sde Bar fall within “Area C� – land that was designated under the
1995 Oslo interim peace agreement to fall under Israeli civil and military control. But while
Israel grants Sde Bar residents access to roads, electricity, and funds for housing
development, it deprives residents of Jubbet al-Dhib of similar amenities. Since Sde Bar’s
founding in 1997, Israel has invested millions of dollars in nearby Jewish settlements like
Tekoa and Nokdim to build homes, schools, community centers, health clinics, and
swimming pools. The same is not true for Jubbet al-Dhib, which dates to 1929. Development
and infrastructure there are at a standstill, strictly prohibited by Israeli authorities who
prevent villagers from building new houses or expanding those they already have.1
Israel has human rights obligations towards all persons under its control, including those in
territory it occupies, as has been stated by the International Court of Justice and other
international bodies. Israel denies that its human rights obligations apply to Palestinians in
the West Bank, except for East Jerusalem, which it considers part of Israel. It argues against
the applicability of human rights law based on an interpretation that restricts its applicability
to the territory of a state and not to occupied territories, and on the argument that the law of
occupation applies to the West Bank to the exclusion of human rights law. The
International
Court of Justice
ALSO BIASED?]as well as several UN human rights committees have rejected this
interpretation, on the basis of the text of the relevant human rights treaties, which define
their applicability based on the degree of a government’s control over a person rather than
on a state’s borders, and on the principle that human rights law and the law of occupation,
as written and interpreted, are not mutually exclusive but complementary obligations that
may both apply to populations under a government’s effective control. International law
does not require Israel to treat Palestinian residents of the West Bank as though they were
Israeli citizens; for example, non-citizens do not have the right to vote. However, the rights of
1 With the exception of settlements in East Jerusalem, where Israel has applied its civil law, Palestinians are virtually excluded
from living in settlements by the requirement that they obtain renewable permits from the Israeli military to enter settlements;
Human Rights Watch is not aware of cases of Palestinians applying for or the military granting permits allowing them to
purchase homes in settlements.

3 Human Rights Watch | December 2010

Israeli citizens—including settlers—do not include the right to benefit from discriminatory
treatment that violates the rights of Palestinians in Israeli-occupied territory.
Israel’s differential treatment in law, regulations, and administrative practice directly affect
the roughly 490,000 Jewish settlers and 420,000 Palestinians in areas under its exclusive
control in the West Bank (including in Area C and East Jerusalem). In addition, the
implications of Israel’s discriminatory policies are far broader, affecting many of the roughly
2.4 million Palestinians living in the cities and towns in the occupied West Bank (known as
Areas A and B) where Israel has ceded most civil responsibilities to the Palestinian Authority.
That is because Area C contains substantial amounts of water resources, grazing and
agricultural land, and the land reserves required for developing cities, towns, and
infrastructure. It is also the only contiguous area in the West Bank, effectively isolating the
cities and towns (which fall outside Area C) into disconnected enclaves.2 As a result, Israel
effectively controls movement and access between Palestinian population centers.3
Palestinians must cross checkpoints to travel through Area C and need permits to build
infrastructure that would connect to cities, towns, and villages (including roads, water and
sewage pipes, and electricity towers). It is often impossible for Palestinian cities, towns, and
villages that have outgrown municipal lands to expand into Area C, where Israel strictly
controls Palestinian construction.
To the extent that Israel, which remains ultimately responsible for persons in the territories it
occupies, has conferred powers on the Palestinian Authority (PA) in certain areas, the PA
also has human rights responsibilities.
Since 1967, when it seized the West Bank from Jordan during hostilities—and under a variety
of governments, since the right-wing Likud party first came to power in 1977—Israel has
expropriated land from Palestinians for Jewish-Israeli settlements and their supporting
infrastructure, denied Palestinians building permits and demolished “illegal� Palestinian
construction (i.e., Palestinian construction that the Israeli government chose not to
authorize), prevented Palestinian villages from upgrading or building homes, schools, health
clinics, wells, and water cisterns, blocked Palestinians from accessing roads and agricultural
lands, failed to provide electricity, sewage, water, and other utilities to Palestinian
communities, and rejected their applications for such services. Such measures have not only
limited the expansion of Palestinian villages, but imposed severe hardships for residents,
2 World Bank, The Economic Effects of Restricted Access to Land in the West Bank, October 21, 2008, p. 4.
3 See OCHA, The Humanitarian Impact of Israeli Infrastructure in the West Bank, 2007, Chapter 2; B’Tselem, Land Grab: Israel’s
Settlement Policy in the West Bank, May 2002, p. 50.

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including forcing children to walk long distances for school, and leaving residents with
limited access to medical care, which can often be accessed only by crossing multiple
checkpoints, because there are no Palestinian general hospitals in Area C. Road blocks,
checkpoints, and substandard roads delay ambulances and people seeking medical care, in
addition to the costs they impose on the Palestinian economy. Since Palestinians need
special military permits to enter settlements, usually as laborers, medical services there are
effectively unavailable to them. In some cases, Israel’s discriminatory policies have forcibly
displaced Palestinians from their communities.
Such policies have not been applied to Jewish settlements. Notwithstanding Israel’s
evacuation of settlers from Gaza and four West Bank settlements in 2005, and its evacuation
of a handful of “outposts� (unauthorized settlements), settlements have expanded in size—
growing from approximately 241,500 inhabitants in 1992 to roughly 490,000 inhabitants in
2010 (including East Jerusalem). Settlers enjoy continuing government subsidies, including
funding for housing, education, and infrastructure such as special roads.
In most cases where Israel has acknowledged differential treatment of Palestinians—such as
barring them from accessing “settler-only� roads and subjecting them to 505 roadblocks and
checkpoints within the West Bank (as of June 2010)—it has asserted that the measures are
necessary to protect Jewish settlers and other Israelis who are subject to periodic attacks by
Palestinian armed groups, particularly during the second Palestinian intifada, or uprising,
from 2000 to around 2006.4
But no security or other legitimate rationale can explain many instances of differential
treatment of Palestinians, such as permit denials that effectively prohibit Palestinians from
building or repairing homes, schools, roads, and water tanks; repairing a home does not
under any stretch of the imagination constitute a security threat. In cases where Israel has
justified policies that harm Palestinians on the grounds of security (whether that of residents
of Israel or of settlers), it has often done so based on policies that define all Palestinians as
a security threat by virtue of their race and national origin, rather than on policies that are
narrowly tailored to well-defined security interests. A government’s differential treatment of
different populations can sometimes be justified, but only to the extent that it serves a
legitimate purpose and is narrowly tailored to have the least harmful impact possible.
4 Violent attacks by Palestinian armed groups killed 202 Israeli civilians in the West Bank between 2000 and August 31, 2010.
During the same period, Israeli settlers killed 43 Palestinian civilians in the West Bank and Israeli security forces killed 1823
Palestinian civilians there, according to the Israeli human rights group B’Tselem.

5 Human Rights Watch | December 2010

In some cases, the harm caused to Palestinians by Israel’s discriminatory policies has been
vastly disproportionate to the stated goal and has been carried out despite less harmful
alternatives. For example, the Israeli military requires many Palestinians to obtain military
“coordination� in order to access their olive groves and other agricultural lands where those
lands are located near settlements. Such a policy purportedly protects settlers from
potential attacks, as well as protecting Palestinians from settler attacks, but in practice, the
Israeli military prohibits (by refusing to “coordinate� access) Palestinian villagers from
accessing their lands for almost the entire year. Residents of Al Janiya, a Palestinian village
near the settlement of Talmon, cannot adequately cultivate their lands during the roughly
two weeks per year that they have "coordinated" access to them, with the result that
agricultural yields have declined sharply and their livelihoods have been harmed. The Israeli
military has not attempted to alleviate this near-permanent exclusion of Palestinians from
their lands by increasing the amount of time they are given access or by imposing
restrictions on the settlers to enhance Palestinian access, effectively forcing Palestinians to
bear the entire burden of ensuring settlers’ security.
Israel’s desire to protect settlers in the West Bank and East Jerusalem and citizens within
Israel from the threat of attack by Palestinian armed groups does not justify policies that
have nothing to do with security or that discriminate against all Palestinians as if they were
all security threats.
Discriminatory practices also often violate Israel’s obligations towards Palestinians under
the law of occupation. As the occupying power in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem,
Israel is obliged to ensure the welfare of the occupied population and to limit its actions
according to the law of occupation as set forth in international humanitarian law. In some
cases, Israeli policies have made Palestinian communities virtually uninhabitable and
effectively forced residents to leave. According to a survey of households in Area C and East
Jerusalem in June 2009, some 31 percent of Palestinian residents had been displaced since
2000.5 The unnecessary and effectively forcible transfer of the occupied population by the
occupying power to other parts of the territory, by unlawfully demolishing homes or by other
measures that make it impossible to remain in a given community, is a serious violation of
Israel’s obligations under the law of occupation. Israel’s confiscation of land and natural
resources for the benefit of settlements exceeds its authority as an occupying power, as
5 Save the Children UK, “Fact Sheet: Jordan Valley,� October 2009,
http://www.savethechildren.org.uk/en/do ... ations.pdf p. 2 (accessed July 21,
2010). The survey found that Palestinian residents in Area C in the West Bank had been temporarily or permanently displaced
primarily as a result of Israeli home demolitions, military orders, and other policies preventing development.
AND MUCH MORE...http://www.hrw.org/en/reports/2010/12/1 ... -unequal-0

How can HRW, The UN, the World Court, Bet Selem, and so many other international justice groups be so BIASED to the MEs' "only Democracy" that is just using Apartheid to exercise its "legitimate right of self defense" (automatic Israeli response to any reported atrocity by BIASED news reports)? :cry:
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From the OP:
This report consists of a series of case studies that compare Israel’s different treatment of
Jewish settlements to nearby Palestinian communities throughout the West Bank, including
East Jerusalem. It describes the two-tier system of laws, rules, and services that Israel
operates for the two populations in areas in the West Bank under its exclusive control, which
provide preferential services, development, and benefits for Jewish settlers while imposing
harsh conditions on Palestinians.
If I were to advocate the complete anihilation of a given group of people, should I expect they treat me with the same respect they treat folks who don't wish them harm?
The report highlights Israeli practices the only discernable
purposes of which appear to be promoting life in the settlements while in many instances
stifling growth in Palestinian communities and even forcibly displacing Palestinian residents.
Well whodda thunk Israel wouldn't be so fond of its enemies?

It is a rather well understood military tactic that you deny the enemy the ability to reach you with their weapons. It can be refered to in terms of "stand off capability".
Such different treatment, on the basis of race, ethnicity, and national origin and not narrowly
tailored to meet security or other justifiable goals, violates the fundamental prohibition
against discrimination under human rights law.
Those Arab members of the Knesset must be feeling kinda goofy right about now.
It is widely acknowledged that Israel’s settlements in the West Bank, including East
Jerusalem, violate international humanitarian law, which prohibits the occupying power from transferring its civilian population into the territories it occupies; Israel appears to be the only country to contest that its settlements are illegal.
If my enemy refuses to accept peace, to heck with 'em, I'll just build my stuff on their land. I refer to it as the policy of, "If you attack me from that spot right there, I'm just gonna take it for my own defense and once I end up with so much of these locations and you're still carryin' on like you do, I'll end up with enough of it I'm gonna even open up a trailer park and I don't care if you rent a slot or not but you best just leave us the heck alone cause we're sick and tired of you blowing yourselves up in amongst our buses and such where all our kids and womenfolk hafta ride and if you don't like it well then to heck with you".
Human Rights Watch continues to
agree with the nearly universal position [BIAS?]
By questioning the bias of a "nearly universal position", I'm gonna go ahead and question your bias.
...
The case studies in this report show that discriminatory Israeli policies control many aspects
of the day-to-day life of Palestinians who live in areas under exclusive Israeli control and that
those policies often have no conceivable security justification. For example, Jubbet al-Dhib is
a 160-person Palestinian village to the southeast of Bethlehem that is often accessible only
by foot because its only connection to a paved road is a rough, 1.5 kilometer-long dirt track.
It is a not uncommonly understood notion that to defeat the enemy, one must control the enemy.

What I'm not seeing in any of this, as has been pointed out so often in threads such as these, is any attempt to address Palestinian wrong-doing.

I see no point in continuing with this OP, as it is evident to me we've been hit with yet another one-sided take on the issues, and I'm confident the observer understands this as well.

Isreal is in a fight for its life and the life of its people. If they gotta "knock some heads" to ensure their continued existence, I beg them to let me help.

Long live Israel!

Long live the Israelis!

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… it is contended that the declaration on closing area and the accompanying orders constitute systematic discrimination…. This contention ignores the fact that the said declaration and orders were issued after Palestinian residents from the region carried out dozens and hundreds of deadly terrorist attacks on a purely racist bias against Israel and Israelis; thus, substantive security reasons required a distinction be made between Palestinians and other persons who move about in the territory.
From Wikipedia;
Criticism of Human Rights Watch

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The international non-governmental organization Human Rights Watch (HRW) has been accused of being influenced by United States government policy, in particular in relation to reporting on Latin America; ignoring anti-Semitism in Europe or being anti-Semitic; biases in relation to the Arab–Israeli conflict; and unfair and biased reporting of human rights issues in Eritrea and Ethiopia. Accusations in relation to the Arab–Israeli conflict include claims that HRW is biased against Israel and that requesting or accepting donations from Saudi Arabian citizens causes it to be biased; it has also been accused of unbalanced reporting against Hezbollah in Lebanon and against the State of Palestine....

Poor research and inaccuracy

The Times accuses HRW of lack of sufficient expertise to report on warfare because the organization has never hired any former members of any military or any person with expertise in warfare with the sole exception of Marc Garlasco. The Times accuses HRW of overriding its own researcher who wished to rescind a factually inaccurate report accusing Israel of responsibility for the Gaza beach explosion (2006).

HRW has been accused of bias in gathering evidence because it is said to be "credulous of civilian witnesses in places like Gaza and Afghanistan" but "sceptical of anyone in a uniform." Robert Bernstein, founder of HRW, now accuses the organization of poor research methods, for relying on "witnesses whose stories cannot be verified and who may testify for political advantage or because they fear retaliation from their own rulers."

According to The Times, HRW "does not always practice the transparency, tolerance and accountability it urges on others."

Selection bias

The Times accuses HRW of "imbalance" since it ignores many human rights abusing regimes while covering other zones of conflict "intensely", notably Israel. It issued 5 lengthy reports on Israel in one 14 month period, whereas in 20 years it has issued only 4 reports on the conflict in Kashmir, despite the fact that there have been 80,000 conflict-related deaths in Kashmir and the fact that "torture and extrajudicial murder have taken place on a vast scale." It issued no report on post-election violence and repression in Iran. One source told The Times, "Iran is just not a bad guy that they are interested in highlighting. Their hearts are not in it. Let’s face it, the thing that really excites them is Israel.� The Times also accuses HRW of failing to report on human rights abuses of Arabs when "perpetrators are fellow Arabs."

Ideological bias

HRW founder Robert Bernstein now accuses HRW of allowing repressive regimes to play a "moral equivalence game" by failing to distinguish the evidence available from open and closed societies, and of failing to recognize the "difference between wrongs committed in self-defense and those perpetrated intentionally."

The Times accuses HRW of filling its staff with former radical political activists including Joe Stork and Sarah Leah Whitson, writing, "theoretically an organization like HRW would not select as its researchers people who are so evidently on one side."

HRW has been accused of being unwilling or unable to perceive threats posed by radical Islam because their leftist ideology leads them to see criticism of Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaeda and similar groups as "a dangerous distraction from the real struggle." An example was the 2006 verbal attack on Peter Tatchell, who was accused of racism, Islamophobia and colonialism by HRW staff for criticizing Iranian execution of homosexuals.

Fund-raising policies

HRW has been criticized for cooperating with the Saudi government by holding fundraisers in that country, and for not releasing the names of its Saudi donors.
There is much more.

I see no need for further comment. Except, of course, this:

Again, no acknowledgment of the decades-long campaign of Palestinian attacks against unarmed civilians chosen as primary targets for mass murder; no acknowledgment of the responsibility of the Palestinian terrorists for the deaths of Palestinian civilians due to their own inarguably criminal tactics; no acknowledgment of the openly and explicitly stated, and never renounced, Palestinian goal of the total eradication of Israel and the extermination or expulsion of every Jew in the Mideast; no acknowledgment of the decades of Government-sponsored and encouraged old-school Nazi-style anti-Semitic hate propaganda to which the Arab public is subjected; no acknowledgment of Holocaust denial, claims of worldwide Jewish conspiracy promoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as authentic, and even dramatizations of the notorious Blood Libel as factually true; no acknowledgment of the Palestinian goal of “ethnic cleansing� in order to establish a Judenrein Arab nation in the West Bank, and eventually from the Jordan to the sea; no acknowledgment that many Arabs never left Israel, and live there in peace and freedom as full citizens to this day; no acknowledgment of endlessly repeated Israeli offers of “land for peace�; no acknowledgment of the blatant anti-Israel bias of the UN; and, finally, no acknowledgment of the FACT that looking to mutually exclusive historical narratives of the past offers no solutions, only more endless conflict. In short, no acknowledgment of anything but the unquestioning embrace of pure Palestinian propaganda, often including fake and fabricated “quotes� clearly intended to inflame and promote hatred and resentment, and of course your favorite inflammatory and fact-free propaganda cartoons.

When you're ready to actually acknowledge and talk about some of the FACTS above, and therefore to actually engage in meaningful debate as opposed to peddling one-sided propaganda, let me know.

One wonders why DeBunkem would start a new thread; here are some posts of mine in ongoing debates between us, but which remain unanswered, on TEN other threads:

AIPAC spying on US

What I learned from a 1937 World Atlas -- or here, if you like.

Noam Chomsky: Agenda and Tactics

Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay Recognize Palestinian State

Justifying Israel (&ff.)

Israel and Palestine -- Whose Land Is It?

8 Reasons Leftists should be Pro-Israel

Question for DeBunkem

Are Jews “Unrightly� Occupying Israel?

Berserk Israeli Terrorist NOT a Racist?

And here are three more, pertinent threads on the subject of Israel that apparently escaped DeBunkem's notice:

To the Chorus of Chronic, Compulsive Critics of Israel

Questions for Debate: Israel

Oh, to be an Ideologue (on the Left OR the Right)

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Just curious DeBunkem, do you own a copy of 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'? Somethings got to explain the anti-Semitism.
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East of Eden wrote:Just curious DeBunkem, do you own a copy of 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'? Somethings got to explain the anti-Semitism.
This post is clearly not productive, and is hard to see as anything other than an insulting personal attack.
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Yes, indeed...as the "Israel is sacrosanct" apologists continue to shout to readers, by far the most bias against their rogue Apartheid entity emanates from groups and organizations outside of and inside of this entity that are biased against violations of human rights, peace, and justice..whether it is institutionalized in China, Singapore, Somalia, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Israel, etc.

The United States AIPAC-talkers show an equal but abysmally ignorant bias (as well as a well-worn FOX-style routine of ad-hominems, red herrings, name-calling, "anti-semirism", Israel/Jewish conflations and irrelevant detours to side issues) against the victims of this Apartheid militarist/terrorist entity.

This doubtless has much to do with profitable US arms sales to that entity as well as a shared penchant for killing Semites for land, oil and war profits. I will simply leave it to these Imperialism enthusiasts to further bolster my (and all peace & justice organizations such as HRW) case. Thanks, guys! O:)
Appendix: Human Rights Watch Letters to Israeli Authorities and Their Responses
Civil Administration in Judea and Samaria
Spokesman
The office of the legal advisor to Samaria and Judea
PO Box 5, Beit El, 90631
November 16, 2010
Dear Sirs,
Human Rights Watch has carried out research regarding several settlements and nearby Palestinian communities in the West Bank, with the view to publishing a report later this year. We are writing to provide you with a summary of our interim findings, and to ask for further information regarding those findings before we reach our conclusions. We would appreciate it if you could provide us with a reply by November 28 so that we can reflect your views in our forthcoming report.
We researched in particular Palestinian communities around the settlements in the northern Jordan Valley; in the Talmon bloc; near Maale Adumim; around the City of David in East Jerusalem; near Beitar Ilit; and near Tekoa and Noqdim. In cases Human Rights Watch examined, it appeared that the Israeli authorities provided substantial subsidies and services for settlers and settlements in Area C and East Jerusalem, which were not provided for Palestinian residents. Our research indicates that it is very difficult for Palestinian residents of Area C and East Jerusalem to obtain required building permits, whether for the construction of homes, schools, medical clinics, electricity pylons, water infrastructure, or other reasons, and that the Civil Administration has demolished a number of unpermitted Palestinian structures in Area C. We were not able to identify a lawful justification for this differential treatment.

General Questions

1. How does the Civil Administration see its responsibilities towards the Palestinian population residing in areas of the West Bank under Israeli civil control? Specifically:
1.Please provide as much information as possible regarding the provision of services to Palestinians residing in Area C of the West Bank, including the amounts of funding, personnel, and the types of services provided:
i. Medical services, including building, equipping or servicing hospitals or medical clinics, or providing ambulance or other emergency transport to Israeli hospitals.
1. If so, please provide further information regarding the amounts of funding, number and tasks of personnel, and the types of services provided.
2. In what cases does Israel provide medical services for Palestinian residents of the West Bank?
ii. Electricity, including construction of electric lines and pylons, transformers or other equipment or services required to connect Palestinian residents to the electricity network.
iii. Water resources, including construction of water pipes, wells, reservoirs, or other equipment or services required to connect Palestinian residents to the water network.
iv. Educational infrastructure or services, including building, or equipping kindergartens, elementary or secondary schools, transportation for children to and from schools, or salaries for teachers or service staff salaries.
v. Other infrastructure, including roads or road repair services, or other infrastructure.
vi. Provision of security services and security infrastructure, such as guards, fences, motion detection equipment, or other equipment.
vii. Town or village planning services, including preparation of plans, topographical maps, legal services, or other services.
2. Apart from the prohibition against Israeli civilians from entering Area A, are there any cases in which the Civil Administration has prevented settlers from accessing roads or lands to safeguard the security of Palestinian residents of the West Bank? If so, please provide details as to the location and length of the restrictions imposed.
3. Is it possible for Palestinian residents of the West Bank to obtain security permits from the Civil Administration to enter settlements for the purpose of purchasing property and living there?
4. Our understanding is that the Civil Administration has suggested in several cases that the Palestinian Authority is responsible, under the Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreements of 1995, for dealing with all requests for connections to water and electricity of Palestinian residents of Area C. According to our information, Palestinian requests for any construction in Area C must be approved by the Civil Administration. Could you please clarify the Civil Administration’s views of its and the PA’s responsibilities regarding the approval of construction and provision of services to Palestinian residents of Area C?
5. Does the Civil Administration view itself as responsible for conforming to Israel's obligations under the Fourth Geneva Convention towards the Palestinian population of the West Bank, such as the limitation to destroy property only for reasons of military necessity?
6. Does the Civil Administration view itself as responsible for conforming to Israel’s obligations under international human rights law regarding the Palestinian population of the West Bank, including with regard to international legal prohibitions against discrimination?
7. According to figures from the Civil Administration Planning Bureau, in 1972 and 1973, the Civil Administration approved 97 percent and 96 percent, respectively, of 3,665 Palestinian residential building permit applications in the “rural sector� of the West Bank. From 2000 to 2007, the Civil Administration approved 5.6 percent of 1,624 Palestinian building applications in Area C.
1.Please provide the criteria used to determine whether to approve or reject applications for building permits.
2.Please provide information regarding the number of Palestinian building permit requests received and approved from 2008 to 2010.
3.For the same period, please provide information regarding the number of building permit applications received and approved from settlers.
8. Military Order 418 Concerning Towns, Villages, and Buildings Planning Law (1971) created a category of planning committee (called a “special local planning committee�) which, according to our information, is applicable only to settlements. Please explain why this planning framework is not also available for Palestinian residents of the West Bank.

Specific questions:

9. According to our information, the Civil Administration has repeatedly rejected requests for construction permits, electricity connections, and a master plan for Jubbet al-Dhib, a village to the south-east of Bethlehem, located adjacent to the Herodion. According to our information, the Civil Administration has rejected requests that would allow the paving of the road leading to the village, to connect the village to the electrical network, and to erect solar powered street lights; the Applied Research Institute of Jerusalem and UNDP’s Small Grants Program were involved in submitting the latter two requests. Residents of Jubbet al-Dhib claim they first filed a petition to be connected to the electrical network in 1988. Allegedly, the Civil Administration based its rejections of these permit requests on the village’s lack of an approved master plan, but the Civil Administration has not provided the village with a plan and has also rejected the villagers’ requests to approve a plan. Most recently, in August 2009, the Civil Administration rejected a master plan for the village created by the Applied Research Institution of Jerusalem (ARIJ), a non-governmental organization based in Bethlehem. The Civil Administration in 2007 allegedly demolished the home of Khamis al-Wahsh in Jubbet al-Dhib because it lacked a building permit.
Settlements near Jubbet al-Dhib include Sde Bar, Tekoa and Nokdim. According to our information, the Civil Administration approved a master plan for Sde Bar in 2003-04, but construction work had begun on the Sde Bar outpost in 1996-97, indicating that the Civil Administration retroactively authorized illegal construction. All these settlements are connected to the electricity network, and have paved access roads connecting them to roads, including the bypass road to Jerusalem.
1.Please provide further information regarding the reasons behind the Civil Administration’s rejection of Jubbet al-Dhib residents’ permit and planning requests.
2.Please explain the Civil Administration’s difference in treatment of Jubbet al-Dhib and nearby settlements in terms of planning, building permits, home demolitions, and access to electricity and road networks.
10. According to our information, the Civil Administration has issued stop-work and demolition orders to residents of the Palestinian town of Nahhalin, near the settlements of Beitar Ilit, in cases where they have improved their agricultural lands or have built homes or other structures outside the area of the town that was already built-up in 1995, on the basis that these areas lack approved plans. As a result, the building density inside Nahhalin has increased, as residents have resorted to building taller multi-story residential buildings, while residents say the water and sewage networks are inadequate. At the same time, the settlement of Beitar Ilit has expanded onto lands which Nahhalin residents say they own. According to our information, sewage runoff from a neighborhood of Beitar Ilit has contaminated a spring, Ain Fares, that Nahhalin residents traditionally used, and have destroyed a number of olive trees and grape vines planted near the spring.
1.Please explain the different treatment of Nahhalin and Beitar Ilit in terms of planning solutions to allow for the natural growth of Nahhalin’s population, and regarding claims that the Civil Administration has authorized settlement construction on lands confiscated from Nahhalin residents.
11. According to our information, Mekorot operates a number of wells in the northern Jordan Valley, including near the Palestinian village of Bardala and the settlements of Ro’i and Beqaot, from which the majority of water goes to settlements. Mekorot’s pumping of water from wells near the town of Bardala has dried out shallower Palestinian water wells there. Bardala is connected to the Mekorot water network but according to our information, the amount of water provided to its residents has decreased and is inadequate to their drinking, sanitation and agricultural needs. Further, our information is that the pumps connected to Mekorot’s wells do not operate unless the water reservoirs connected to settlements in the area have been depleted, and that Bardala residents who depend on the Mekorot wells for their water have no control over the operation of the pumps, and often suffer from lack of water when the pumps are not operating. The Civil Administration has not granted residents of the communities ofAl Hadidiye, Al Farisiye, and Al Ras al Ahmar access to connect to the Mekorot water network that services nearby Israeli settlements.
1.Please provide information regarding the Civil Administration’s reasons for refusing any requests by the communities of Al Hadidiye, Al Farisiye, and Al Ras al Ahmar to connect to water sources.
2.Please provide information regarding the policy whereby settlements such as Mehola, Shademot Mehola, Ro’i and Beqa’ot are granted access to water networks whereas Palestinian residents of nearby areas are required to purchase water in mobile tankers, and explain the Civil Administration’s different treatment of Palestinian communities and settlements in this area in terms of access to water.
3.Please provide information regarding the Civil Administration’s authority over the water supply provided to Bardala and to access points for water tankers from Mekorot’s wells in the area.
12. According to our information, Israeli soldiers stationed at checkpoints on roads leading into the Jordan Valley require Palestinians to obtain permits to enter the area in private vehicles. Our information also indicates that Palestinians encounter extensive delays when they request the Civil Administration to change their registered addresses to locations in the Jordan Valley.
1.Please explain the Civil Administration’s different treatment of Palestinians and settlers in the area in terms of restrictions on freedom of movement and residency, including:
i. Why the Civil Administration requires permits for Palestinians to access the area, and any policies restricting the ability of Palestinians to register their addresses in the area.
ii. Whether the Civil Administration requires settlers in the area to have equivalent permits to those required of Palestinians or imposes similar restrictions on settlers’ ability to register their addresses in the area.
13. According to our information, the Civil Administration does not recognize Al Farisiye, Al Ras al Ahmar, or Al Hadidiye, which are located in the northern Jordan Valley, as residential communities, and has issued and carried out demolition orders on the basis that residents’ homes were unlawfully constructed in a closed military zone. Our understanding is that under military order no. 378 from 1970, Israeli authorities may evict persons living in a “closed military zone.� Section 90 of the order states that “permanent residents� can remain in an area later designated as closed, and that eviction orders cannot change their status as permanent residents. Our understanding is that these villages existed prior to the declaration of the area as a closed military zone. Our understanding is that the Civil Administration does not accord pastoralists the status of “permanent residents� and will evict them from closed military zones.
1.Please provide information regarding the Civil Administration’s interpretation of the term “permanent residents,� and any other information that indicates why the Civil Administration does not consider the residents of these communities to be exempt from eviction.
2.Please provide any information that indicates that the military considered other alternatives when imposing the military zone that would have been less disruptive of the lives of these residents, and that indicates that the size and location of the military zone and the evictions of Palestinian residents there were both militarily necessary and proportionate.
3.Please also indicate whether any settlers have been evicted or settlement homes demolished on the basis that they are in a closed military zone, and whether any military zones have been declared over areas that contain settlements. If not, please explain the different treatment of Palestinian residents and settlers in the area regarding home demolitions.
14. Our understanding is that the Civil Administration in 2007 cut water pipes leading from a spring on the western side of Road 90 in the Jordan Valley to the farm of a Palestinian named Fa’iq Sbeih, located immediately to the east of the road and approximately 700 meters north of the Rotem settlement, without prior notice. Human Rights Watch observed a water pipe immediately adjacent to Sbeih’s farm, which according to our understanding leads from a water source to the Rotem settlement, to which Sbeih is prohibited from connecting.
1.Please provide information regarding the decision to cut the water pipes to this farm.
2.Please provide any information regarding the administrative steps Sbeih could follow to obtain access to the water resources enjoyed by Rotem, or any other water resources.
3.Please explain the different treatment of Sbeih and settlers in Rotem regarding access to water.
15. According to our information, in 2006, on two occasions, the Civil Administration demolished buildings owned by a Palestinian named Abu Riyad on a hilltop in the Humsa area, several hundred meters to the east of the Hamra checkpoint, and issued a demolition order against one of the remaining buildings in April 2010. According to our information, in 2006, Abu Riyad was detained, and three of Abu Riyad’s sons were detained and sentenced to three years in prison on charges of weapons possession and incitement to violence.
1.Please provide information regarding the reasons for the 2006 demolitions and the 2010 demolition order.
2.Please provide any further information about Abu Riyad’s detention, including whether he was charged or convicted of any offense, and the convictions and sentences of his sons.
16. According to our information, the Civil Administration has coordinated access for Palestinian villagers from the village of Yanun, near the settlement of Itamar, and the village of al-Janiya, near the settlement of Talmon, to their agricultural lands near these settlements for roughly two or three weeks per year, in the fall and spring, but the villagers are unable adequately to cultivate or harvest their olives and other agricultural produce in this short amount of time.
1.Please provide information regarding the number of days and the times of day that the Civil Administration has coordinated with Yanun and al-Janiya residents to access their lands, why the Civil Administration has limited their period of access to these times, whether the Civil Administration has considered extending the period of access beyond current limitations, and if so why such extensions have not been granted.
2.Please explain the apparent difference in treatment between Yanun residents who are required to obtain “coordination� in order to access their lands and who are allowed to do so only for a limited number of days each year, and settlers from Itamar and its outposts, who are not subjected to such limitations.
Thank you in advance for your responses.
Sincerely,
Sarah Leah Whitson
Director, Middle East and North Africa Division
Human Rights Watch

Ruth Rennert
Spokesperson,Mekorot
November 16, 2010
Dear Ms. Rennert,
Human Rights Watch has carried out research regarding several settlements and nearby Palestinian communities in the West Bank, with the view to publishing a report later this year. We are writing to ask you for further information regarding water services to a number of communities in the northern Jordan Valley, before we reach our conclusions. We would appreciate it if you could provide us with a reply by December 1 so that we can reflect your views in our forthcoming report.
1. How many wells does Mekorot operate in the northern Jordan Valley?
2. For each well in this area, kindly provide information regarding the amount of water extracted each month during the past two years; if monthly figures are not available, please provide information for whatever time-period Mekorot uses to calculate extraction during the past two years.
3. Our understanding is that Israeli communities in the northern Jordan Valley receive water from Mekorot wells in the area. For the following communities, could you kindly inform us of the amount of water provided by Mekorot from wells in the Jordan Valley, and any amounts of water that these communities receive from other sources, on a monthly basis:
•Mechola
•Shademot Mechola
•Maskiyot
•Rotem
•Ro’i
•Beqa’ot
4. Please provide any information about the pricing structure for the water provided to these communities, such as whether water for agricultural use is provided at different price rates than water for domestic use, and the relevant prices.
5. Our understanding is that pumpage from the Bardala 1 well, drilled by Mekorot in 1968, and from the Bardala 2 well, drilled by Mekorot in 1979, dried up the older and shallower wells used by Palestinian residents of the village of Bardala, and that Bardala residents currently receive water from Mekorot. According to Bardala residents, the amount of water they receive is inadequate to meet their agricultural needs, and the amount of agricultural land they are able to cultivate has declined by as much as half since 1967. What amount of water does Mekorot provide to Bardala on a monthly basis?
6. Our understanding is that Mekorot supplies the village of Bardala with a set amount of water for a given price, and that it is possible for the village to purchase a certain amount of water exceeding that amount for an additional fee. Please provide any information regarding the pricing structure of Mekorot’s supply of water to Bardala, and the maximum amounts that the village can purchase.
7. Our understanding is that the pumps operating Mekorot wells that provide water to the village of Bardala operate only when water tanks supplying Israeli communities in the area, such as Mechola and Shademot Mechola, decline to a given level. According to Bardala residents, they thus face occasional periods without water flow, which last for as long as several days in summer. Please provide any information about the maximum length of time Bardala residents could face a lack of running water due to this reason.
8. Our understanding is that other Palestinian communities in the area, including Al Hadidiye, Al Ras al Ahmar, and Al Farisiye, are not connected to the Mekorot water network, and that it is necessary for residents of these communities to fill up water tankers at filling-points. Please provide information regarding the location of any such filling points that receive water from Mekorot in the northern Jordan Valley, the costs of water per cubic meter at these filling points, and the amount of water dispensed at each filling point per month.
9. Please provide information about any other facilities or projects by which Mekorot provides water resources to Palestinian residents of the northern Jordan Valley.
Thank you in advance for your responses.
Sincerely,
Sarah Leah Whitson
Director, Middle East and North Africa Division
Human Rights Watch
No wonder the IDF has retaliated against this Human Rights bias by shelling and dropping incendiary WP bombs on such dangerous groups as the UN.

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No response or rebuttal whatever, of course, to the factual bases for charges of bias against Human Rights Watch. Only the usual; more fulminating about “‘Israel-is-sacrosanct’ apologists,� “AIPAC-talkers,� “apartheid,� implied denials of the very existence of anti-Semitism (notice the quote marks), and, ironically enough, a complaint about “red herrings� (ironic because no one has mentioned AIPAC, US arms sales, oil, or several other recurrent “red herrings� on this thread, or any others in this debate, but DeBunkem himself).

The Human Rights Watch letters in the last post are from here. They have been reprinted on some anti-Israeli websites, but this is from the HRW site. Interestingly, it claims, as seen in the post above, to contain “Human Rights Watch Letters to Israeli Authorities and Their Responses,� but no responses are evident.

Perhaps there were none. Not hard to discern why; do a word search yourself and find the word “terror� anywhere in those letters, or indeed in the report from HRW to which it is appended. Indeed, in all of HRW’s reports concerning “terrorism,� there is not a single report concerned with terrorism against Israelis. See for yourself. Four pages of intense concern about terrorism in Kenya, Uganda, Somalia, Russia, the UK, India, the Philippines, Mali, Thailand, Egypt, and on and on and on; but Israel is not mentioned, not once. It appears that HRW does not recognize that terror attacks ever take place in Israel -- much like DeBunkem himself (in his posts, it should be noted that the only mentions of “terrorism� are applied to the actions of the Israelis.)

Enh. Not worth my time. HRW is not a credible arbiter or unbiased source, and its concerns have more to do with its political agenda than with any real concern for “human rights.� I have begun a thread elsewhere on that organization, proving that assertion, and I invite everyone to participate in the debate.


One wonders if DeBunkem will EVER so much as ACKNOWLEDGE any of the following salient, on-point and undisputed FACTS:

(1) The decades-long campaign of Palestinian attacks against unarmed civilians chosen as primary targets for mass murder.

(2) The responsibility of the Palestinian terrorists for the deaths of Palestinian civilians due to their own inarguably criminal tactics.

(3) The openly and explicitly stated, and never renounced, Palestinian goal of the total eradication of Israel and the extermination or expulsion of every Jew in the Mideast.

(4) The decades of Government-sponsored and encouraged old-school Nazi-style anti-Semitic hate propaganda to which the Arab public is subjected, which includes Holocaust denial, claims of worldwide Jewish conspiracy, the promoting of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as an authentic document, and even, incredibly, dramatizations of the notorious Blood Libel as factually true.

(5) The explicit Palestinian goal of “ethnic cleansing� in order to establish a Judenrein Arab nation in the West Bank, and eventually from the Jordan to the sea.

(6) The fact that very many Arabs never left Israel at the time of its founding, and many (20% of the Israeli population) live there in peace and freedom as full citizens to this day.

(7) The factual record of endlessly repeated Israeli offers of “land for peace.�

(8) The blatant and proven anti-Israel bias of the supposedly "unbiased" UN.

(9) The blatant and proven anti-Israel bias of many supposedly “unbiased� NGOs.

(10) The FACT that looking to mutually exclusive historical narratives of the past offers no solutions, only more endless conflict.

Instead, we see, over and over and over again, nothing but Palestinian propaganda, reports from biased and agenda-driven organizations, fake and fabricated “quotes� clearly intended to inflame and promote hatred and resentment, inflammatory and fact-free propaganda cartoons, and material from unsourced and unacknowledged anti-Semitic websites.

Perhaps DeBunkem’s steely determination never to allow these matters to be discussed here accounts for his failure to respond to the following posts of mine in ongoing debates:

AIPAC spying on US

What I learned from a 1937 World Atlas -- or here, if you like.

Noam Chomsky: Agenda and Tactics

Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay Recognize Palestinian State

Justifying Israel (&ff.)

Israel and Palestine -- Whose Land Is It?

8 Reasons Leftists should be Pro-Israel

Question for DeBunkem

Are Jews “Unrightly� Occupying Israel?

Berserk Israeli Terrorist NOT a Racist?

And that determination to ignore all these facts might also account for his failure to address the topics of any of these threads, as well:

To the Chorus of Chronic, Compulsive Critics of Israel

Questions for Debate: Israel

Oh, to be an Ideologue (on the Left OR the Right)


One wonders what the point of all this might be. When one is an obvious ideologue and propagandist who studiously avoids a long list of salient topics, who, one wonders, is taking one's arguments seriously -- and why would anyone do that?
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As Netenyahu said, if the Arabs laid down their arms there would be peace, if Israel laid down it's arms there would be no more Israel.

As Arafat showed, the Palestinians don't want peace. They just want there not to be an Israel so they can get back to fighting each other.
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DeBunkem wrote:Yes, indeed...as the "Israel is sacrosanct" apologists continue to shout to readers, by far the most bias against their rogue Apartheid entity emanates from groups and organizations outside of and inside of this entity that are biased against violations of human rights, peace, and justice..whether it is institutionalized in China, Singapore, Somalia, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Israel, etc.

The United States AIPAC-talkers show an equal but abysmally ignorant bias (as well as a well-worn FOX-style routine of ad-hominems, red herrings, name-calling, "anti-semirism", Israel/Jewish conflations and irrelevant detours to side issues) against the victims of this Apartheid militarist/terrorist entity.

This doubtless has much to do with profitable US arms sales to that entity as well as a shared penchant for killing Semites for land, oil and war profits. I will simply leave it to these Imperialism enthusiasts to further bolster my (and all peace & justice organizations such as HRW) case. Thanks, guys! O:)

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No wonder the IDF has retaliated against this Human Rights bias by shelling and dropping incendiary WP bombs on such dangerous groups as the UN.

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Finally, I have commented before on the use of images. We have not, as moderators, developed a policy on images, but the use of images should also conform to the forum rules. They should not be inflammatory, and should be relevant to debate.
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DeBunkem wrote:Yes, indeed...as the "Israel is sacrosanct" apologists continue to shout to readers, by far the most bias against their rogue Apartheid entity emanates from groups and organizations outside of and inside of this entity that are biased against violations of human rights, peace, and justice..whether it is institutionalized in China, Singapore, Somalia, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Israel, etc.
May I ask why you continue to speak on a subject without bothering to refute the rebuttals that have already been presented? Simply ignoring or being dismissive of those who present counter evidence would be indicative that you have no actual interest in debating the issue.

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