Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay Recognize Palestinian State

[DeBunkem]

Israel's "collective punishment" on the health and welfare of the imprisoned Palestinian people becomes more odious the more draconian it becomes. The Zionist Apartheid Rogue Entity raves and brandishes its arsenal if some ME nation merely fails to recognize the "state" of Israel. Nevertheless, they have carved a state out of stolen land and refuse to grant statehood to Palestine. They have also made it clear that they will never allow a two-state solution. It is clear who is the obstructionist in the ME peace process.
Interesting to note that these SA states are among the regional resistance to the IMF, multi-national corporations and US hegemony.

Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay Recognize Palestinian State in Occupied Territories
The Palestinian effort for statehood has received a boost with recognition from three South American countries. Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay have each declared their recognition of a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip based on the 1967 borders. Argentine Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman announced his government’s stance on Monday.

Héctor Timerman: "The president of the nation, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, sent a letter to the president of the National Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, saying that the Argentine government recognizes Palestine as a free and independent state in the borders as they were in 1967 and according to what the parties determined during the negotiation process."

Israel has harshly condemned the moves as an affront to the so-called "peace process." With U.S. support, Israel has insisted on maintaining control of large Jewish-only settlement blocs that carve up the West Bank. Aid groups meanwhile continue to denounce the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip and ongoing restrictions in the West Bank. Kate Allen of Amnesty International said Palestinians are being "systematically" deprived of water.

Kate Allen: "There is a systematic and deliberate means of stopping water getting to Palestinian families, and that is having a dramatic effect upon the way in which people are able to live their lives. Water is an absolute basic necessity. It’s a human right. It is shocking to see that the Israeli government is behaving in this way."

Palestine's WMD



The usual flimsy excuse given by Israel for its depredations.

[cnorman18]

Israel's "collective punishment" on the health and welfare of the imprisoned Palestinian people becomes more odious the more draconian it becomes.

Unsupported polemic opinion.

The Zionist Apartheid Rogue Entity raves and brandishes its arsenal if some ME nation merely fails to recognize the "state" of Israel.

Prove this claim, please. Examples? News reports from other than Palestinian sources?

Nevertheless, they have carved a state out of stolen land and refuse to grant statehood to Palestine.

"Stolen land" is a claim which has been refuted numerous times here, without a single rebuttal from you other than merely repeating your claim. Further, "land for peace" has been offered over and over; the land is taken, but no peace is given in return.

They have also made it clear that they will never allow a two-state solution.

Prove this claim, please. Examples? News reports from other than Palestinian sources?

It is clear who is the obstructionist in the ME peace process.

Sure is.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... ctims.html

Interesting to note that these SA states are among the regional resistance to the IMF, multi-national corporations and US hegemony.

Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay Recognize Palestinian State in Occupied Territories
The Palestinian effort for statehood has received a boost with recognition from three South American countries. Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay have each declared their recognition of a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip based on the 1967 borders. Argentine Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman announced his government’s stance on Monday.

Héctor Timerman: "The president of the nation, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, sent a letter to the president of the National Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, saying that the Argentine government recognizes Palestine as a free and independent state in the borders as they were in 1967 and according to what the parties determined during the negotiation process."

Israel has harshly condemned the moves as an affront to the so-called "peace process." With U.S. support, Israel has insisted on maintaining control of large Jewish-only settlement blocs that carve up the West Bank. Aid groups meanwhile continue to denounce the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip and ongoing restrictions in the West Bank. Kate Allen of Amnesty International said Palestinians are being "systematically" deprived of water.

Kate Allen: "There is a systematic and deliberate means of stopping water getting to Palestinian families, and that is having a dramatic effect upon the way in which people are able to live their lives. Water is an absolute basic necessity. It’s a human right. It is shocking to see that the Israeli government is behaving in this way."

Palestine's WMD



The usual flimsy excuse given by Israel for its depredations.

Yeah, sure. See the link above for the "flimsy excuses" that you have card-stacked out.

And, of course:

Again, no acknowledgment of the decades-long campaign of Palestinian attacks against unarmed civilians chosen as primary targets for mass murder; no acknowledgment of the responsibility of the Palestinian terrorists for the deaths of Palestinian civilians due to their own inarguably criminal tactics; no acknowledgment of the openly and explicitly stated, and never renounced, Palestinian goal of the total eradication of Israel and the extermination or expulsion of every Jew in the Mideast; no acknowledgment of the decades of Government-sponsored and encouraged old-school Nazi-style anti-Semitic hate propaganda to which the Arab public is subjected; no acknowledgment of Holocaust denial, claims of worldwide Jewish conspiracy promoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion as authentic, and even dramatizations of the notorious Blood Libel are factually true; no acknowledgment of the Palestinian goal of “ethnic cleansing� in order to establish a Judenrein Arab nation in the West Bank, and eventually from the Jordan to the sea; no acknowledgment that many Arabs never left Israel, and live there in peace and freedom as full citizens to this day; no acknowledgment of endlessly repeated Israeli offers of “land for peace�; no acknowledgment of the blatant anti-Israel bias of the UN; and, finally, no acknowledgment of the FACT that looking to mutually exclusive historical narratives of the past offers no solutions, only more endless conflict. In short, no acknowledgment of anything but the unquestioning embrace of pure Palestinian propaganda, often including fake and fabricated quotes clearly intended to inflame and promote hatred and resentment.

When you're ready to actually acknowledge and talk about some of the FACTS above, and therefore to actually engage in meaningful debate as opposed to peddling one-sided propaganda, let me know.

[Lux]

My president doesn't care about human rights anymore than a chimp cares about economics. In fact just recently she granted political refugee status to a dangerous chilean criminal, Sergio Galvarino Apablaza, and has made no efforts whatsoever to retrieve the suspected criminals behind the AMIA attack, currently hiding behind the government of Iran (one of them is actually a government agent). In other words, I don't see why anyone takes her opinion as adding anything to this issue.

I am embarrassed to see that the official position of my country is to pick a side rather than to promote agreement and peace.

[Vladd44]

As far as I am concerned the best Palestine solution to be had is at the end of a nuclear device. Then everyone can argue over an irradiated piece of nothing.

I had initially written of past Israeli leaders with terrorist pasts. Followed by the Goldstone report and it's accounting of misdeeds on both sides.

About how reckless actions like bulldozing houses and blocking roads or materials only lead to desperation and more conflict.

Or how the Palestinian State that these three nations recognized is in accord with the 1947 UN resolution to create both Jewish and Arab states in Palestine.

Both sides have acted in a detestable manner. But in truth if my race were oppressed by another race I would not react well either.

Zionism is a racist mindset with a racist agenda. And the reality that it has brought out the worst in their enemies should not come as a surprise.

But personally I am still holding out for Iran to fix this problem for us.

[cnorman18]

As far as I am concerned the best Palestine solution to be had is at the end of a nuclear device. Then everyone can argue over an irradiated piece of nothing.

I had initially written of past Israeli leaders with terrorist pasts. Followed by the Goldstone report and it's accounting of misdeeds on both sides.

About how reckless actions like bulldozing houses and blocking roads or materials only lead to desperation and more conflict.

Or how the Palestinian State that these three nations recognized is in accord with the 1947 UN resolution to create both Jewish and Arab states in Palestine.

Both sides have acted in a detestable manner. But in truth if my race were oppressed by another race I would not react well either.

Zionism is a racist mindset with a racist agenda. And the reality that it has brought out the worst in their enemies should not come as a surprise.

But personally I am still holding out for Iran to fix this problem for us.

You SAY you blame both sides, but it's clear from the above that you blame only the Israelis.

I don't see much constructive value in advocating a second Holocaust that would annihilate millions of Arabs AND Jews. But your opinion is noted.

[Vladd44]

You SAY you blame both sides, but it's clear from the above that you blame only the Israelis.

Exactly how is that? If I blame only the Israelis I sure have an odd way of showing it. Last I checked if the region was dealt with in my way it would fall upon both the jew and the palestinian.

I clearly stated both sides were at fault.

Did I not use enough words to specify the failings of the Palestinians for you?

But at the end of the day it is not about Zealots such as yourself, nor Hamas.

It is about people who have the right to not live under Israeli oppression and the right of the Israeli citizens to exist within THEIR OWN BORDER.

The UN mandate created a two state solution in 1946, I don't think it unreasonable for these three countries to expect to see the Palestinians get the right to their own country.

Failing this, for me I would be thrilled with the entire region being wiped off the face of the planet. If we were really lucky that would include Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Yemen as well. I could suggest a few more, but I don't want to look greedy.

I said nothing about a second holocaust, I just happen to be sick of idiots that cannot seem to get along well enough to worship their gods in proximity.

Let the muslims, christians and jews argue over the "holy land" when it is a irradiated wasteland.

In the interest of settling this once and for all, the jews can have NYC and the muslims can have Michigan.

[cnorman18]

You SAY you blame both sides, but it's clear from the above that you blame only the Israelis.

Exactly how is that? If I blame only the Israelis I sure have an odd way of showing it. Last I checked if the region was dealt with in my way it would fall upon both the jew and the palestinian.

I clearly stated both sides were at fault.

Did I not use enough words to specify the failings of the Palestinians for you?

The only specifics you gave in the post above referred to the Israelis: "...past Israeli leaders with terrorist pasts... reckless actions like bulldozing houses and blocking roads... Zionism is a racist mindset with a racist agenda."

Q.E.D.

[Vladd44]

I think promoting a nuke for both of them is more than adequate for QED.

But please go put your head back into whatever cloud it came from. After all it is much better to perceive your enemies in such a one dimensional manner.

Zionism is racist. Not that I have an inherent problem with people being racist, I think people should tend to their own.

But at least call it what it is.

Don't get so pissy just because I loath jews and palestinians equally.

[otseng]

But please go put your head back into whatever cloud it came from.

Don't get so pissy just because I loath jews and palestinians equally.

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[Question Everything]

Zionism is racist.

I am not Jewish, but my understanding of Zionism is that it is the belief that historical Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people. It says NOTHING about Jews beng superior to any other race.