Stem Cell Research

Kuan · Post by **Kuan** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:55 pm

Should stem cells be allowed for medical reasons? If yes, should they allow all types or should they limit the uses?

A primer on stem cells

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:38 am

mormon boy51 wrote:Should stem cells be allowed for medical reasons? If yes, should they allow all types or should they limit the uses?

A primer on stem cells

Absolutely.

Any type of stem cell that works. OF course, extracting the stem cell from the patients own body is the most effective, but when it comes to 'stem cell lines', once you get a specific line going in the proper medium (one that would be considered non contatminated by other sources, and fit to use in humans), it can be grown and perpetuated in culture forever.

Right now, we do not know the limits of uses for stem cells.. there are a lot of risks involved. However, if someone is going to be dead soon anyway, they might consider the risk/reward factor. That is why there is the 'stem cell tourism'

Kuan · Post by **Kuan** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:33 am

Ok but what of embryonic stem cells? Do you approve of that also?

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:08 pm

mormon boy51 wrote:Ok but what of embryonic stem cells? Do you approve of that also?

The stem cell used from embryo's are from embryos that were going to be discarded anyway. It is imporant to know if there is a difference between those kind of cells, and stem cells from other sources. IF those stem cells are more effective, or can be used in situations that other stem cells can not be, then I don't have a problem with it.

Do we just let a group of cells get discarded, or do we use them to let paraplegics walk, and cure people with debilitating diseases that drain resources, and not allow the person to be productive, and leaves them in so much pain?

LiamOS · Post by **LiamOS** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:07 pm

The use of embryonic stem cells in medicine is completely justifiable.

If one sees wrong with it, I'd be surprised if they see no wrong in eating meat, owning pets, slavery, etc.
Use of life for a purpose is just that. And some serious good can come out of something as harmless as stem cell research.

Kuan · Post by **Kuan** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:13 pm

Yes and that all makes. Still, how far do we want to take our knowledge of medicine? Wouldn't it be unethical to keep natural selection from taking its course? The same proccess that gave us this knowledge? Is it possible that from our knowledge of medicine and preventing natural selection because of it that we are causing overpopulation on earth? Couldn't this add even more on our already stressed planet?

LiamOS · Post by **LiamOS** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:18 pm

[color=orange]mormon boy51[/color] wrote:Wouldn't it be unethical to keep natural selection from taking its course?

Some might argue that allowing a cycle riddled with pain and suffering to continue indefinitely would be less ethical.

[color=green]mormon boy51[/color] wrote: Couldn't this add even more on our already stressed planet?

What does it care? Frankly, I don't give a toss about climate change once we can deal with it. However, we can't right now, so it worries me.

If everything on this planet just died, I don't think it'd bat an eyelid, and it might just be the most ethical end possible.

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:06 pm

mormon boy51 wrote:Yes and that all makes. Still, how far do we want to take our knowledge of medicine? Wouldn't it be unethical to keep natural selection from taking its course? The same proccess that gave us this knowledge? Is it possible that from our knowledge of medicine and preventing natural selection because of it that we are causing overpopulation on earth? Couldn't this add even more on our already stressed planet?

Not if we also teach this little thing known as 'RESPONSIBLITIY and BIRTH CONTROL.

The very things that the people who are against stem cell research and abortion are against.

WinePusher · Post by **WinePusher** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:32 pm

mormon boy51 wrote:Yes and that all makes. Still, how far do we want to take our knowledge of medicine? Wouldn't it be unethical to keep natural selection from taking its course? The same proccess that gave us this knowledge? Is it possible that from our knowledge of medicine and preventing natural selection because of it that we are causing overpopulation on earth? Couldn't this add even more on our already stressed planet?

Goat wrote:Not if we also teach this little thing known as 'RESPONSIBLITIY and BIRTH CONTROL.

The very things that the people who are against stem cell research and abortion are against.

No no no. They're aganist giving public schools the authority to teach sexual procedure or conduct, as that is NOT the job of government run public schools, but rather the job of the Parents, not the school.

TheLibertarian · Post by **TheLibertarian** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:03 pm

Absolutely. Any argument otherwise implicitly undermines property rights.

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