US Constitution based on Christian Laws

[achilles12604]

In another thread Whirlwind wrote the following:

We are founded on Judaic/Christian values....not Islam.

This of course took the original thread off course and as such, I am starting a new topic here to investigate this claim.

The Constitution of the United States

Whirlwind, as you made the claim, I shall allow you to provide examples. If you do not provide examples sometime today (Assuming you are on later today), I will delve into this in the near future myself as I LOVE learning new things.

[ChaosBorders]

Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt

Yet you speak.

Not anymore he doesn't. I did try to warn him...twice.

There are some things that are like train wrecks in slow motion. You can see it coming, and yet there is nothing you can do to prevent it.

I wonder what took so long. Gettin' rid of whirlwind was like a full time job for several of us. Did anyone think s/he would listen and reform?
Just think though: s/he is spewing vile nonsense elsewhere, probably where the folks are more gullable. I'm afraid Whirlwind has decades of damage-doing still to do.

I'm still clinging to the hope that Whirlwind is very young, and a few more experiences like this one will teach him to play by the rules.

[Tryit]

so you want us to show the us constitution is not set up to support a christian nation? Or that it was not written by christians for christian purposes?
1. no one denies mainly christians wrote the constitution

I deny it . The people who wrote the constitution where overwhelmingly deists. Not Christians. I don't understand where people get that idea. Read Thomas Jefferson, read Benjamin Franklin. He hated the Quakers and the Mennonites etc.

[Slopeshoulder]

so you want us to show the us constitution is not set up to support a christian nation? Or that it was not written by christians for christian purposes?
1. no one denies mainly christians wrote the constitution

I deny it . The people who wrote the constitution where overwhelmingly deists. Not Christians. I don't understand where people get that idea. Read Thomas Jefferson, read Benjamin Franklin. He hated the Quakers and the Mennonites etc.

I agree. they were "christian" only insofar as they were european and therefore in some ways products of what was once called christendom. But they were at the tail end of it, in the Enlightenment, men of reason. They wished to reappropriate conventional judeo-christian values and the notion of a (deist) creator, but they hardly envisioned the kind of theocracy imagined by the modern right. Indeed, they were at great pains to throw off off all that (papacy, reoigious wars, creeping theocracy, new christendom) and begin with a clean slate. It was only lower classes and later arrivals (anabaptists, baptists, feieists, etc) that got all bible-based on us. The modern "christian" right is 180 degrees wrong when they appeal to the founders, they have been lied to, they don't understand american history, 15th-18th century european history, or the constitution itself. They are the enemy within.
This is no more a christian nation than is Holland.