US Constitution based on Christian Laws

[achilles12604]

In another thread Whirlwind wrote the following:

We are founded on Judaic/Christian values....not Islam.

This of course took the original thread off course and as such, I am starting a new topic here to investigate this claim.

The Constitution of the United States

Whirlwind, as you made the claim, I shall allow you to provide examples. If you do not provide examples sometime today (Assuming you are on later today), I will delve into this in the near future myself as I LOVE learning new things.

[Classicus]

The US isn't based on any relgion. It explicetely says so in your constitution.

[achilles12604]

The US isn't based on any relgion. It explicetely says so in your constitution.

That is precisely what I created this thread to investigate. Could you cite a specific part of the Constitution which addresses your POV?

[Classicus]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

First Amandment.

[chatfouz]

so you want us to show the us constitution is not set up to support a christian nation? Or that it was not written by christians for christian purposes?
1. no one denies mainly christians wrote the constitution

but it is not to set up a "Christian nation" Yes the values of the authors were biblically based. But it was also british cultured as well. So by same standpoint then we are british subculture...


but as far as constitution
1. congress is given no directive or incentive to forward a "christian" agenda. Section 8 it says nothing about christianity, christian values... not the job of congress.

2. Christian leadership for christian goals
article 2 has no rules for christian president. So again nothing making the constitution "christian" in anything but the religion of it's authors.

3. god is never mentioned in the constitution, even as a reference to power. Surely if this was a document to have theological importance it would reference god, jesus or the like. it does none of that...

This nation was founded by christians. But not as a "christian nation" a nation specifically created to pursue christian values and goals. A few colonies were set up for that purpose. But colonies were also set up for 100% profit. That does not make this nation designed to be capitalist and greedy people (although some would disagree)

If you want to say this nation was set up to be a christian nation the burden of proof is on you making the statement. Not us to refute you

[Classicus]

Also, it is clear that someof the founding fathers were disgusted with religion after what it had done in Europe.

[chris_brown207]

Especially considering the 1st Amendment expressly prohibits the government from "respecting any establishment of religion"...

So weird that the founding fathers would make this the FIRST Amendment, if they intended this to be a Christians nation...

And I personally challenge anyone to produce quotes from the founding fathers reinforcing that statement... And I promise I will produce twice as many quotes that show the founding fathers intended for this nation to be a free nation with a secular government.

[whirlwind]

Also, it is clear that someof the founding fathers were disgusted with religion after what it had done in Europe.

There is a difference in religion and God. I too am disgusted with religion but certainly not God.

[chris_brown207]

Also, it is clear that someof the founding fathers were disgusted with religion after what it had done in Europe.

There is a difference in religion and God. I too am disgusted with religion but certainly not God.

The founding fathers make no such distinction... there are nor parts of the Constitution in which they say "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion... but God is okay".

You are the one making the distinction between God and religion, not the Constitution.

[whirlwind]

Also, it is clear that someof the founding fathers were disgusted with religion after what it had done in Europe.

There is a difference in religion and God. I too am disgusted with religion but certainly not God.

The founding fathers make no such distinction... there are nor parts of the Constitution in which they say "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion... but God is okay".

You are the one making the distinction between God and religion, not the Constitution.

Really? The following quote was given above....

First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

No laws are to be made to ESTABLISH a certain religion....such as Catholic, Protestant or Islam. AND NO LAWS are to be made to prohibit religions of choice.