It's time for Obama to GO

[WinePusher]

I believe Obama is probably the most radical president in our nation's history, aside from Woodrow Wilson. Not only is his policy questionable, but his character and personal actions are troubling

-Why did this president bow to ver 5 world leaders
-Why did this president spend over 20 years at a church where the pastor spwed hate speech about America
-Why did this president place a communist and a mao se tung lover in his white house

many republicans have called this president a "Marxist" "Neocommunist" "Facist" "Socialist" "Extremist" I personally agree with every single one of these, but many call this hate speech

So the question is

1) Are the statements aganist Obama (ie: Marxist, Socialist) justifiable"

2) Can anyone justify the government take over of the banks, auto industry, student loan industry and the healthcare industry.

3) Is the media giving obama a free pass? Any rational person would agree the media was very hard on Palin but not so hard on Obama

[sickles]

Um....didn't obama have a filibuster proof majority in the senate and a super majority in the house. Was it the republicans who kept delaying and blocking the bill, or was it the moderate democrats? Considering the corrupt process, buying out Louisiana, Nebraska, special deals for Connecticut and Florida, back room deals with the pharmacuteical companies and so forth, I'm glad the republican opposed this.

Please tell me why Obama chose to have the healthcare summit only after Scott Brown was elected? Why not at the beginning. Is it because Obama never sought republican support until he realized that they could actually block it? Was it right for Pelosi to even propose something as crude as the slaughter intiative on a bill of this magnitude, or for Harry Reid to propose reconciliation?

he was doing what was necessary to keep his campaign promise. A promise that likely contributed greatly to his winning the election.

[East of Eden]

In Palins case, outrage that an uneducated , ill informed, and self righteous woman might be vice president caused the media to be critical. Probably the first public critisism of Palin came from Saturday Night Live from Tina Fey, and they got huge responses. The media outlets were forced to follow suit or seem counter to thier viewers desires. Except fox.

You prefer the gaffe-machine moron Biden as VP? I wish Palin was in the White House instead of Obama. I prefer her accomplishments to Obama's rhetoric.

[WinePusher]

Um....didn't obama have a filibuster proof majority in the senate and a super majority in the house. Was it the republicans who kept delaying and blocking the bill, or was it the moderate democrats? Considering the corrupt process, buying out Louisiana, Nebraska, special deals for Connecticut and Florida, back room deals with the pharmacuteical companies and so forth, I'm glad the republican opposed this.

Please tell me why Obama chose to have the healthcare summit only after Scott Brown was elected? Why not at the beginning. Is it because Obama never sought republican support until he realized that they could actually block it? Was it right for Pelosi to even propose something as crude as the slaughter intiative on a bill of this magnitude, or for Harry Reid to propose reconciliation?

he was doing what was necessary to keep his campaign promise. A promise that likely contributed greatly to his winning the election.

Really? Please show me the quote where Obam promised the American People that he would socialize healthcare using a corrupt and immoral process with a bi partisan vote.

I thought his promise was CHANGE. I thought he promised CHANGE. Change from the back room deal making, the lobbyists in the white house and transperancy in politics. TELL ME, DID HE KEEP THAT PROMISE.

[WinePusher]

I believe Obama is probably the most radical president in our nation's history, aside from Woodrow Wilson. Not only is his policy questionable, but his character and personal actions are troubling

-Why did this president bow to ver 5 world leaders

because it is respectful in those cultures to do so. Equals usually bow to one another at the same depth. If one bowed noticably lower than the other, that is a sign of defference. diplomacy isnt a penis measuring contest. stupid macho americans ( im american and i can throw stones in my own glass house, thank you)

-Why did this president spend over 20 years at a church where the pastor spwed hate speech about America

what hate speech? jeremiah was accurate from his point of view from what i have hear him speak of.

-Why did this president place a communist and a mao se tung lover in his white house

what? we hate communists still? why dont we still hate catholics like in JFKs time?

many republicans have called this president a "Marxist" "Neocommunist" "Facist" "Socialist" "Extremist" I personally agree with every single one of these, but many call this hate speech

we are already socialist. If your definition of socialism is a government that puts even one socialized policy in place. Fire protection from fire fighters are socialized, police are socialized, school is socialized, the VA is socialized, libraries are socialized, welfare is socialized, road work is socialized. It's hate speech because it is a practice that has been in place for along time , and it just now conveniently is coming out when we have a black president . where were you when bush was president? were you holding your protest sign then? you are in danger of seeming hypocritical.

So the question is

1) Are the statements aganist Obama (ie: Marxist, Socialist) justifiable"

depends on your definition of those terms. everyone is a little socialist, a litle marxist, a little democratic, its just a spectrum.

2) Can anyone justify the government take over of the banks, auto industry, student loan industry and the healthcare industry.

yup. to stop individuals from taking advantage of weaknesses do to a lack of forsight when regulatory measures were put into place. If the governement takes the reigns, it is more likely that everyone involved will be treated the same. The goal no longer is "make money" the goal is to "serve the purpose". i dont know what purpose the auto industry served. its just a manufacturer, and it should have gone down from bad management like any business should have, and the out of work masses should have formed a lynch mob and made those CEO's money worthless to them.

and as a person who hasnt had as many opportunities in life, having been raised in alabama in a 2 bedroom shack, living on welfare, buying clothes from the thrift store, depending on a walmart charity program for christmas, and a church i didnt believe in for a meal on thanksgiving, all while my dad drove a truck over the road for 6 days a week, i can say that you as a taxpayer seem selfish and apathetic to the plights of others.

3) Is the media giving obama a free pass? Any rational person would agree the media was very hard on Palin but not so hard on Obama

all media is biased. The only time a media outlet deviates from its bias is when there is public outrage on an issue, and not addressing that issue would create backlash for the media outlet. The common media outlets are business owned by one or two people, and they want a specific audience for each media outlet so they can sell advertising specifically tailored to those audiences. Watch commercials during Fox news breaks, then watch the ones for ABC, and CNN. they are tailored to the audience that the outlet is trying to attract with its particular spin.

In Palins case, outrage that an uneducated , ill informed, and self righteous woman might be vice president caused the media to be critical. Probably the first public critisism of Palin came from Saturday Night Live from Tina Fey, and they got huge responses. The media outlets were forced to follow suit or seem counter to thier viewers desires. Except fox.

You, and every other self proclaimed progressive in America, do agree with Jeremiah Wright. You just said it, the Political left sees America has the satan of the world and the problem. THANK YOU FOR CONFIRMING THAT.

If bowing to world leaders is so respectful then why is no one bowing to America's leaders? HUH, WHY IS NO ONE BOWING TO US BUT WE ARE BOWING TO THEM.

First of all, YOU DON'T KNOW ME. I hated Bush, he was no conservative, he was soft of immigration, he was a big government spender. So don't assume you know me and my opinions.

Yep, just take over those companies to protect the consumers. Regulate those corporations and industries, just keep on spending on the deficit and bailing out failed companies. Just screw the free market.

"and as a person who hasnt had as many opportunities in life, having been raised in alabama in a 2 bedroom shack, living on welfare, buying clothes from the thrift store, depending on a walmart charity program for christmas, and a church i didnt believe in for a meal on thanksgiving, all while my dad drove a truck over the road for 6 days a week, i can say that you as a taxpayer seem selfish and apathetic to the plights of others."

What does that have to do with anything? A reckless appeal to emotion isn't a strong argument.

"In Palins case, outrage that an uneducated , ill informed, and self righteous woman might be vice president caused the media to be critical. Probably the first public critisism of Palin came from Saturday Night Live from Tina Fey, and they got huge responses. The media outlets were forced to follow suit or seem counter to thier viewers desires. Except fox.[/quote]"

Why didn't that outrage of a TWO YEAR SENATOR outrage the media. WHY WASN'T THE MEDIA HAS HARD ON OBAMA, WHO HAD NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE AND ONLY SPENT 2 YEARS AS A SENATOR.

So the media outlets where forced to follow Tina Fey and SNL. They where forced to abandon their objective observence of current events just to get better ratings. Have you noticted that the stations you watch, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, CNBC, the New York Times, Time magaine, Newsweek and all the rest of these Lame media outlets are FAILING. Who has over 3,000,000 VIEWERS A NIGHT, Bill O' Reilly, who is the most watched news network, FOX, which talk radio shows are the top rated in America, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Glenn beck, Laura Ingraham, Michael Savage.

get your facts straight.

[Wyvern]

If bowing to world leaders is so respectful then why is no one bowing to America's leaders? HUH, WHY IS NO ONE BOWING TO US BUT WE ARE BOWING TO THEM.

Bowing to certain world leaders is respectful while to other it would not be. For instance it is respectful to bow or curtsy depending on gender to the queen of England but a simple handshake is all that is required for the PM. In the US few people bow to others so for a world leader to bow to an american leader makes no sense in our cultural context.

Yep, just take over those companies to protect the consumers. Regulate those corporations and industries, just keep on spending on the deficit and bailing out failed companies. Just screw the free market.

Then you should be happy to know most of those loans are being paid back early with interest so instead of creating a greater deficit that program is actually going to make money. Those bailouts were made at a time in which it was considered that if those companies were allowed to go out of business it would cause our economy and more than likely the entire world to sink into a real live depression. Nature and the markets abhor a vacuum with the demise of two of the big three auto makers along with many of the largest financial institutions would open the door for foreign companies to fill in that vacuum which of course would have given you something else to complain about.

Why didn't that outrage of a TWO YEAR SENATOR outrage the media. WHY WASN'T THE MEDIA HAS HARD ON OBAMA, WHO HAD NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE AND ONLY SPENT 2 YEARS AS A SENATOR.

During the campaign his nickname was no drama Obama, if you don't give them anything the media can't make negative reports about you. Palin on the other hand gave a famous interview to Couric which by itself provided fodder for stories for weeks.

So the media outlets where forced to follow Tina Fey and SNL. They where forced to abandon their objective observence of current events just to get better ratings. Have you noticted that the stations you watch, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, CNBC, the New York Times, Time magaine, Newsweek and all the rest of these Lame media outlets are FAILING. Who has over 3,000,000 VIEWERS A NIGHT, Bill O' Reilly, who is the most watched news network, FOX, which talk radio shows are the top rated in America, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Glenn beck, Laura Ingraham, Michael Savage.

No they didn't have to follow SNL, Palin gave them enough material on a weekly basis to give them plenty to talk about. Plus it helps that Fey did a really good impersonation of Palin. Tabloids are read by many people also but that doesn't mean they should be respected as a news source.

[Chuck_G]

If bowing to world leaders is so respectful then why is no one bowing to America's leaders? HUH, WHY IS NO ONE BOWING TO US BUT WE ARE BOWING TO THEM.

What is it that you don't understand about bowing in other countries is the EQUIVALENT of a handshake? Has this been pointed out to you before? Have you ever traveled to any Asian countries? Why do you insist that bowing to someone in the form of a greeting is somehow degrading yourself? Do you feel you are being praised by another when they reach out for a handshake with you? Or is that simply a greeting?

[JohnnyJersey]

I believe Obama is probably the most radical president in our nation's history, aside from Woodrow Wilson. Not only is his policy questionable, but his character and personal actions are troubling

-Why did this president bow to ver 5 world leaders
-Why did this president spend over 20 years at a church where the pastor spwed hate speech about America
-Why did this president place a communist and a mao se tung lover in his white house

many republicans have called this president a "Marxist" "Neocommunist" "Facist" "Socialist" "Extremist" I personally agree with every single one of these, but many call this hate speech

So the question is

1) Are the statements aganist Obama (ie: Marxist, Socialist) justifiable"

2) Can anyone justify the government take over of the banks, auto industry, student loan industry and the healthcare industry.

3) Is the media giving obama a free pass? Any rational person would agree the media was very hard on Palin but not so hard on Obama

1) Obama is no Marxist; he's more conservative than was the VERY conservative Bill Clinton, and he's close to Bush in his conservativism.

2) The government has the constitutional right to do what's in the interest of the people. The banks, auto industry, etc. were never "taken over" by the government, but bailed out by the government. Many of the institutions have paid back their debt to the government and are on their own again. Still, it's the government's duty to its people to keep an eye on business and to make any law it wants to control business.

3) The media doesn't give Obama a free pass except for his conservative moves. As for Palin, she's a flat-out moron who brought upon herself all the derision she deserves from anyone. The woman is an unfit mother to begin with, she has no business trying to run a state or country before she can run her own home.

As for the bowing thing, that is simply a sign of respect, no different from a handshake. I much prefer that to how Bush would hold hands and make out (kissing on the lips) with Saudi sheiks. That's pretty darn gay of Bush, if you ask me.

[Misty]

I think Obama is the best president the US has had for a good long time, especially as he isn't paying heed to the rabid fundies as did Bush.

[JohnnyJersey]

I think Obama is the best president the US has had for a good long time, especially as he isn't paying heed to the rabid fundies as did Bush.

As a "rabid fundy" who is not a political conservative and voted for Obama, I have to say that while he's a huge step up from Bush, that's not saying much, and he's far from being the greatest president we've had in a long time. Carter was better, Nixon was better, Kennedy, Clinton, Ford were all better. Obama is very much like GWH Bush (although Clinton is more like him. Obama is a lot more like GW Bush than people realize, but he's nowhere near as bad as W.

The last truly GREAT Presidents we've seen are Ike and Kennedy, although cases can be made for Nixon and Carter, also.

[East of Eden]

1) Obama is no Marxist; he's more conservative than was the VERY conservative Bill Clinton,

The impeached rapist Clinton just seems more conservative when compared to the left-wing extemist Obama.

and he's close to Bush in his conservativism.

Obama's deficit is four times Bush's, in a little over a year.

2) The government has the constitutional right to do what's in the interest of the people. The banks, auto industry, etc. were never "taken over" by the government, but bailed out by the government. Many of the institutions have paid back their debt to the government and are on their own again. Still, it's the government's duty to its people to keep an eye on business and to make any law it wants to control business.

The government can make any law it wants? I don't think so.

3) The media doesn't give Obama a free pass except for his conservative moves. As for Palin, she's a flat-out moron who brought upon herself all the derision she deserves from anyone. The woman is an unfit mother to begin with, she has no business trying to run a state or country before she can run her own home.

I prefer Sarah's accomplishments to Obama's rhetoric. At one time she was the most popular governor in the US. Governor is true management experience to be President, unlike Senator where you only have to speechify and vote, with little accountability. He does have a big mouth, but Obama's community organizing and two years in the Senate in no way qualified him to be President, as we are now seeing.