Switzerland set to ba Islamic Minarets

[Furrowed Brow]

Switerzland have just voted and exit polls suggest that they have voted for a ban on the building of islamic minarets.

BBC link

One reason for the proposed ban given is that Sharia law is incompatible with Swiss Democracy.

Is this correct? Or are the Swiss guilty of descrimination?

[VermilionUK]

For your proof of the statement from the people who vote ban on minaret, I already commented, that its only a caseof religious discrimition and racism. But you seems to be denying this thing, on what reason, its still unknown.

Then once again, you have not read all of my posts.

I don't see it as racism, I see it as a response to the fear that has been created by the outspoken extremists within the Muslim community. Here's some examples as to why some people fear Islam:





When people see these demonstrations, what do you think their reaction to the expansion of Islam would be?

Should every country welcome it with open arms? It seems that's what you'd want, or else it's "a case of religious discrimination and racism", right?

[TrueReligion]

For your proof of the statement from the people who vote ban on minaret, I already commented, that its only a caseof religious discrimition and racism. But you seems to be denying this thing, on what reason, its still unknown.

Then once again, you have not read all of my posts.

I don't see it as racism, I see it as a response to the fear that has been created by the outspoken extremists within the Muslim community. Here's some examples as to why some people fear Islam:





When people see these demonstrations, what do you think their reaction to the expansion of Islam would be?

Should every country welcome it with open arms? It seems that's what you'd want, or else it's "a case of religious discrimination and racism", right?

If you want to go off-topic, thn lets make another post, we will discuss whatever you want to discuss.
Anything of this, is not related to Minaret. Is any1 holding slogan against Minaret? Is this happen in switzerland?
Why can;t you show any correct evidence and proof against BAN on minaret till now?
All what you are showing is out of post, and beyond sense. You prove to be very weak in proving your claim about anything till now in this topic VUK.

[TrueReligion]

For your proof of the statement from the people who vote ban on minaret, I already commented, that its only a caseof religious discrimition and racism. But you seems to be denying this thing, on what reason, its still unknown.

Then once again, you have not read all of my posts.

I don't see it as racism, I see it as a response to the fear that has been created by the outspoken extremists within the Muslim community. Here's some examples as to why some people fear Islam:





When people see these demonstrations, what do you think their reaction to the expansion of Islam would be?

Should every country welcome it with open arms? It seems that's what you'd want, or else it's "a case of religious discrimination and racism", right?

If you want to go off-topic, thn lets make another post, we will discuss whatever you want to discuss.
Anything of this, is not related to Minaret. Is any1 holding slogan against Minaret? Is this happen in switzerland? Whats the violence in this? it was a peacefull demonstration. Is this for Minaret demonstration?
Why can;t you show any correct evidence and proof against BAN on minaret till now?
All what you are showing is out of post, and beyond sense. You prove to be very weak in proving your claim about anything till now in this topic VUK.

[VermilionUK]

If you want to go off-topic, thn lets make another post, we will discuss whatever you want to discuss.
Anything of this, is not related to Minaret. Is any1 holding slogan against Minaret? Is this happen in switzerland?
Why can;t you show any correct evidence and proof against BAN on minaret till now?
All what you are showing is out of post, and beyond sense. You prove to be very weak in proving your claim about anything till now in this topic VUK.

This was not off-topic. You had asked me to provide evidence of extreme muslims, because I stated that extreme muslims are a reason behind the fear of Islam spreading - and the fear of Islam was a reason behind the minaret ban, which we discussed earlier.
Please try and keep up

Yes there are protests against Islamic constructions and buildings (that picture you posted is an example), and much of this is also due to the impact of extremist muslims. When muslims parade the street shouting "behead those who stand against Islam", what do they expect? It seems you are unwilling to accept that extremist muslims are a large reason behind the opposition to Islam spreading.

[TrueReligion]

If you want to go off-topic, thn lets make another post, we will discuss whatever you want to discuss.
Anything of this, is not related to Minaret. Is any1 holding slogan against Minaret? Is this happen in switzerland?
Why can;t you show any correct evidence and proof against BAN on minaret till now?
All what you are showing is out of post, and beyond sense. You prove to be very weak in proving your claim about anything till now in this topic VUK.

This was not off-topic. You had asked me to provide evidence of extreme muslims, because I stated that extreme muslims are a reason behind the fear of Islam spreading - and the fear of Islam was a reason behind the minaret ban, which we discussed earlier.
Please try and keep up

Yes there are protests against Islamic constructions and buildings (that picture you posted is an example), and much of this is also due to the impact of extremist muslims. When muslims parade the street shouting "behead those who stand against Islam", what do they expect? It seems you are unwilling to accept that extremist muslims are a large reason behind the opposition to Islam spreading.

Again, It was not related to post, we were talking about Minarets Ban, for extremism, we both agreed that its different topic, and we should not discuss here.
But, if you want, we will do here, as you are pushing now.

Now as you have;nt proven anything till now for the BAN of Minaret, prove me what is extremism?
I can show you many pics of christians as well, demonstrating agaisnt other religions, and they turn violent as well, so what it will prove?
There were demonstrations in India as well, against christians, so did Switzerland BAN Indians?

Be on topic with respect, you will get neat and good reply as well for the topic, till now you have;nt prove a single point related to thread, all what you are doing is brining out of post topics, and discussion, wasting time and not doing a healthy and good debate

[VermilionUK]

If you want to go off-topic, thn lets make another post, we will discuss whatever you want to discuss.
Anything of this, is not related to Minaret. Is any1 holding slogan against Minaret? Is this happen in switzerland?
Why can;t you show any correct evidence and proof against BAN on minaret till now?
All what you are showing is out of post, and beyond sense. You prove to be very weak in proving your claim about anything till now in this topic VUK.

This was not off-topic. You had asked me to provide evidence of extreme muslims, because I stated that extreme muslims are a reason behind the fear of Islam spreading - and the fear of Islam was a reason behind the minaret ban, which we discussed earlier.
Please try and keep up

Yes there are protests against Islamic constructions and buildings (that picture you posted is an example), and much of this is also due to the impact of extremist muslims. When muslims parade the street shouting "behead those who stand against Islam", what do they expect? It seems you are unwilling to accept that extremist muslims are a large reason behind the opposition to Islam spreading.

Again, It was not related to post, we were talking about Minarets Ban, for extremism, we both agreed that its different topic, and we should not discuss here.
But, if you want, we will do here, as you are pushing now.

Now as you have;nt proven anything till now for the BAN of Minaret, prove me what is extremism?
I can show you many pics of christians as well, demonstrating agaisnt other religions, and they turn violent as well, so what it will prove?
There were demonstrations in India as well, against christians, so did Switzerland BAN Indians?

With all due respect, I was only replying to your requests for proof. I state something, then you ask for proof, I provide that proof, and then you accuse me of being off-topic...strange

Be on topic with respect, you will get neat and good reply as well for the topic,

Even though I have largely remained on-topic, I am yet to recieve a "neat and good reply" from you.

till now you have;nt prove a single point related to thread, all what you are doing is brining out of post topics, and discussion, wasting time and not doing a healthy and good debate

Once again I'm wondering whether you actually read my posts. I've also created another thread that covers the issues deemed as off-topic.

I'm leaving this topic here for someone else to debate with you. We will never get anywhere if you continue your habit of asking for proof, and then constantly disregarding the proof as off-topic. It's laughable.

[TrueReligion]

If you want to go off-topic, thn lets make another post, we will discuss whatever you want to discuss.
Anything of this, is not related to Minaret. Is any1 holding slogan against Minaret? Is this happen in switzerland?
Why can;t you show any correct evidence and proof against BAN on minaret till now?
All what you are showing is out of post, and beyond sense. You prove to be very weak in proving your claim about anything till now in this topic VUK.

This was not off-topic. You had asked me to provide evidence of extreme muslims, because I stated that extreme muslims are a reason behind the fear of Islam spreading - and the fear of Islam was a reason behind the minaret ban, which we discussed earlier.
Please try and keep up

Yes there are protests against Islamic constructions and buildings (that picture you posted is an example), and much of this is also due to the impact of extremist muslims. When muslims parade the street shouting "behead those who stand against Islam", what do they expect? It seems you are unwilling to accept that extremist muslims are a large reason behind the opposition to Islam spreading.

Again, It was not related to post, we were talking about Minarets Ban, for extremism, we both agreed that its different topic, and we should not discuss here.
But, if you want, we will do here, as you are pushing now.

Now as you have;nt proven anything till now for the BAN of Minaret, prove me what is extremism?
I can show you many pics of christians as well, demonstrating agaisnt other religions, and they turn violent as well, so what it will prove?
There were demonstrations in India as well, against christians, so did Switzerland BAN Indians?

With all due respect, I was only replying to your requests for proof. I state something, then you ask for proof, I provide that proof, and then you accuse me of being off-topic...strange

Be on topic with respect, you will get neat and good reply as well for the topic,

Even though I have largely remained on-topic, I am yet to recieve a "neat and good reply" from you.

till now you have;nt prove a single point related to thread, all what you are doing is brining out of post topics, and discussion, wasting time and not doing a healthy and good debate

Once again I'm wondering whether you actually read my posts. I've also created another thread that covers the issues deemed as off-topic.

I'm leaving this topic here for someone else to debate with you. We will never get anywhere if you continue your habit of asking for proof, and then constantly disregarding the proof as off-topic. It's laughable.

I just ask you in simple and plain english, that what is the basic protest or basic point which was raised by the commitee against the Minaret,
And you give me their reply,.
Now is that message, a sign of religious discrimitnation and racism or not? if Not, prove me with some good logic, not this extremism, terrorism, this doe;snt have to do anything with Minaret.
Ttalk sensible related to post, you will get reply for that, rest bringing so many topics out of post, will just not conclude the session.

Hope you understand now

[otseng]

you silly little goose you

Moderator comment:

Even if it was intended to not be taken seriously, calling someone a "silly little goose" should perhaps be best left out.

[Jayhawker Soule]

For your proof of the statement from the people who vote ban on minaret, I already commented, that its only a caseof religious discrimition and racism. But you seems to be denying this thing, on what reason, its still unknown.

Then once again, you have not read all of my posts.

I don't see it as racism, I see it as a response to the fear that has been created by the outspoken extremists within the Muslim community. Here's some examples as to why some people fear Islam:





When people see these demonstrations, what do you think their reaction to the expansion of Islam would be?

Should every country welcome it with open arms? It seems that's what you'd want, or else it's "a case of religious discrimination and racism", right?

If you want to go off-topic, thn lets make another post, we will discuss whatever you want to discuss.
Anything of this, is not related to Minaret. Is any1 holding slogan against Minaret? Is this happen in switzerland? Whats the violence in this? it was a peacefull demonstration. Is this for Minaret demonstration?
Why can;t you show any correct evidence and proof against BAN on minaret till now?
All what you are showing is out of post, and beyond sense. You prove to be very weak in proving your claim about anything till now in this topic VUK.

Do you truly believe those opposing photographic narratives are morally equivalent? If so, you've managed to become a stunning and disturbing exemplar of what your opponent is saying.

[TrueReligion]

For your proof of the statement from the people who vote ban on minaret, I already commented, that its only a caseof religious discrimition and racism. But you seems to be denying this thing, on what reason, its still unknown.

Then once again, you have not read all of my posts.

I don't see it as racism, I see it as a response to the fear that has been created by the outspoken extremists within the Muslim community. Here's some examples as to why some people fear Islam:





When people see these demonstrations, what do you think their reaction to the expansion of Islam would be?

Should every country welcome it with open arms? It seems that's what you'd want, or else it's "a case of religious discrimination and racism", right?

If you want to go off-topic, thn lets make another post, we will discuss whatever you want to discuss.
Anything of this, is not related to Minaret. Is any1 holding slogan against Minaret? Is this happen in switzerland? Whats the violence in this? it was a peacefull demonstration. Is this for Minaret demonstration?
Why can;t you show any correct evidence and proof against BAN on minaret till now?
All what you are showing is out of post, and beyond sense. You prove to be very weak in proving your claim about anything till now in this topic VUK.

Do you truly believe those opposing photographic narratives are morally equivalent? If so, you've managed to become a stunning and disturbing exemplar of what your opponent is saying.

You have to reply to opponent, to bring him back to track, by equal means, but in a limit ofcourse, dats why i posted 1 image, otherwise it would have gone more thn this.