Jesus Preached the Gospel of Election !

[beloved57]

Jesus Preached the Gospel of Election ! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

All that the Father giveth Me shall come unto me..

Jn 6:

37All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Amen, Jesus Himself taught election and special redemption in these very words..

It is very evident from this portion of the Word of God, that the Love Gift of the Father is not all humanity..This is corroborated in Jn 17..

We find throughout the whole chapter of Jn 17 who these special people people are who the Father gave unto the Son..They are those given to Jesus Christ out of the world per jn 17:6

I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

In another place Jesus is saying I will declare thy name to my brethren per heb 2:12

Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.

Those that have been singled out of the world, not because of their own freewill, repenting and believing, or doing and working, or anything that man does or think. They have been set apart by the Sovereign, electing, and discriminating eternal purpose of God, from everlasting..

They have been under Gods everlasting purpose of mercy from everlasting to everlasting ps 103:

17 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;

Notice, this mercy is not for all mankind, but for those who Fear Him..

And fearing Him is not a condition of this mercy, but as a result of it..for none feared God from everlasting of themselves..

So this speaks to eternal election in their Head, the Lord Jesus Christ whom is from everlasting..

[Jonah]

calvin,

You're just preaching your version of Christianity. Your trinitarian views are just another religion outside of Judaism, and more importantly, have nothing to do with the thread topic.

The whole misguided notion of Christians that Jesus created a new master nation is just compounding of Christian misunderstanding of Israel's election...which was not master nation (Luther and Hitler combated that which was never there in the first place). The only thing Israel was elected to was to be Israel. The Chinese were just as favored...especially when you consider that Jews really really like Chinese food. Oh heck, Chinese food IS Jewish food.

[InTheFlesh]

Jonah,

Why do you think God found it necessary to iterate a point like Him being "One God." Wouldn't it be obvious to the nation of Israel? Not necessarily. Because Israel new that God was Father but He was also Holy Spirit, and some would come to know that He was also the man Christ Jesus. This is also why God said let "US" make man in "OUR" image. God is one. Absolutely. But Elohim is a word often used in the Old Testament to refer to God and is in fact a word of plurality to communicate that even though God is absolutely one and is undivided, He is also more than one person. The triune Godhead is something that is CLEARLY taught in the Old Testament. It blows my mind that anybody, especially Gods people, don't see it. Hear O Israel the Lord thy God is One God is a decree to Israel to remind them He is undivided, not one to crush the notion of the Godhead, but rather to lend credit to it. Hear O Israel the Lord thy God is One God, in three persons. Father Son and Holy Ghost.

You are adding to his word there.
No where in scripture does it say
Father/Son/Holy Ghost are different "people".
The 3 are 1 "person".
God has 1 image.
God is ONE!

You were made in his image.
You have body, soul and spirit.
How many people are you?

[CalvinismIsHeresy]

InTheFlesh, what was the point of pointing out a silly technical inaccuracy. The point is that God found it expedient to iterate His oneness because I believe He knew there were questions about it or that there could be some in the future because true Israel understood that God was also Holy Ghost. My word usage might have been off but you highlighting and hanging your hat on it sort of shows your attitude and approach to the thread topic.

Jonah, why just indictments? No rebuttals. Just judgment and accusation. Its a shame. Yahweh, Yeshua, and Holy Ghost are one. Even so come quickly Lord Jesus.

[InTheFlesh]

InTheFlesh, what was the point of pointing out a silly technical inaccuracy. The point is that God found it expedient to iterate His oneness because I believe He knew there were questions about it or that there could be some in the future because true Israel understood that God was also Holy Ghost. My word usage might have been off but you highlighting and hanging your hat on it sort of shows your attitude and approach to the thread topic.

I hear this over and over
but it's not supported by scripture.
I agreed with your post except that part.
Not sure why you took it the way you did?
Father/Son/Holy Ghost are not 3 people, but rather ONE God.
It sounds as you are in agreement with me?

You can call it technically silly,
but there's a BIG difference
between God being 1 person and 3 persons.

Not sure what you mean by attitude and approach toward the thread topic?