Jewelry, for Christians or not?

scottlittlefield17 · Post by **scottlittlefield17** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:43 pm

9I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. 1 Timothy 2:9-10

Who do you explain this? Does it not say that women are not to wear gold, pearls or expensive clothes? I've studied into the "braided hair" part and realized that what Paul seemed to be targeting was that women in those days used to braid jewels and fancy decorations into their hair. By the way, its been awhile i know. I've been super busy and didn't have the time to put into here. But here I am again, much to the consternation of some I suppose.

Jonah · Post by **Jonah** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:32 pm

WHOOOOAAAAAA!!!!! Didn't see THAT coming!

WHAT? Jewelry's sole function is sexual attraction? REALLY? So, when Granny goes to church with a necklace or broach on, she's lookin' to score?

Have you seen Madeline Albright's new book "Read My Pins"???? Last week she had a big golden beetle on her lapel doing an interview on her book. I didn't know the beetle was supposed to get me all viagarish about her. So, Maddie's been street walkin' all these years? Huh. Who knew?

If little Bobby gives his mommy a Christmas tree or Santa or Candy Cane pin for Christmas, he's settin her up to be a ho?

scottlittlefield17 · Post by **scottlittlefield17** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:38 pm

Haha, Jonah you crack me up. You still have not given me one debatable point. What is jewelry for? Is it or is it not only for the purpose of decoration?

Jonah · Post by **Jonah** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:53 pm

Well. I hate to admit this. But the older I get, the more I need little things to remind me of what is important to me.

So. When I wear a magen David, am I looking to score? If so. I'm in trouble, because I married...and my wife just thinks I really like being a Jew. Oh, crap! She wears one too.

Decoration? Yeah. That's what they call them things on military uniforms. Sex? Who knew? Poor Obama. They gave him all that hell for not wearing a flag lapel pin every minute of the day. Maybe he was just trying to show Michelle he wasn't trying to step out on her.

So. What do we do about clergy bling? Them big pectoral crosses with rubies and sapphires in them?

High school and college class rings? All Sex? eee gads!.

When my wife and I got married there was no diamond engagement ring, because we were both po seminary students. So. We went to J.C. Penney and got matching very thin 10k rings for $37.50 each...and put it on our nearly maxed out J.C. Penney Credit Card. So. I don't know if that helped or hurt the sex part, but we're still married after 25 years, and we have the same cheapo rings.

So. I would say there is NO reason to pass judgement on jewelry. Technology kills the issue. They can make synthetic jewelry that looks as good as the real thing, so you don't know who spent too much. On the sex thing....I think popular culture has blown past you. Jewelry is no longer that special...anyone who has tried to make money selling jewelry can tell you the competition is a killer. As far as decoration and sex....set your sites on ink. The tattoo thing, in my opinion, has gotten out of control.

Jonah · Post by **Jonah** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:12 pm

I'll probably get in debate board police trouble on this. But, here goes.

I think it was our 15th anniversary, and I decided I was finally going to get my wife a diamond ring. I didn't know anything about diamonds, so it was kind of interesting to go from shop to shop to get all the pitches and compare. Quite a little drama it was. So. I decided on this one shop, because the salesman was a real character and had an old fashioned line of sales b.s. that was just charming compared to the blank stare and silence one gets from "sales people" today. This guy was quick talker and a good ol Jewish guy. And he whips out a picture of his brand new infant son that depends on his sales career (the guy is 50), and I just internally laughed so hard I about peed my pants because my Scotch-Irish father in law used the same technique bargaining for used cars in his rural small town. He'd go down to the car lot armed with a wallet fold-out of his 6 kids and tell the salesman how he had to feed six mouths. Ol Bob actually bought quite a few cheapo cars down there. He kept a fleet of them on the farm..a couple extra beyond the 6. When one of the kids' cars broke down, all they had to do was come out to the farm and pick up one of the back-ups.

So. The moral of the story is: It may be why YOU are buying Jewelry more than its possible alluring effect on others. In my case, I wanted the story of my 50 year old new father salesman with the wallet photo. My father in law had died not too much before. My wife treasured the whole story. The ring just went with it.

scottlittlefield17 · Post by **scottlittlefield17** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:08 pm

Interesting stories, however I am wrote this to debate the issue of whether or not jewelry should be worn by Christians based on what Paul and Peter have to say on the issue. And I still have not got a debatable point.

Jonah · Post by **Jonah** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:23 am

You didn't put Peter in the deal. And you didn't put Paul in the title, just the text of the first post, which could be taken as an example over against the thread title.

So. If your goal is to LIMIT debate to a question of what Paul meant, you could clarify that, and see who is interested.

scottlittlefield17 · Post by **scottlittlefield17** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:35 am

I believe I did clarify it in the OP. I based my OP off of what Paul said. So according to the OP, the debate below should be based off of what Paul said. You still have not given me one debatable point. If you have something to debate in it then say it. If you can't think off anything then don't.

SpiritQuickens · Post by **SpiritQuickens** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:35 pm

scottlittlefield17 wrote:9I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. 1 Timothy 2:9-10

Who do you explain this? Does it not say that women are not to wear gold, pearls or expensive clothes? I've studied into the "braided hair" part and realized that what Paul seemed to be targeting was that women in those days used to braid jewels and fancy decorations into their hair. By the way, its been awhile i know. I've been super busy and didn't have the time to put into here. But here I am again, much to the consternation of some I suppose.

I decided to give the ring back to my grandpa. It's too expensive, and I hate liabilities. I'll try to ask my pastor anyway and get back to you.

scottlittlefield17 · Post by **scottlittlefield17** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:54 am

Ok, no pressure.

SpiritQuickens · Post by **SpiritQuickens** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:27 am

scottlittlefield17 wrote:Ok, no pressure.

My pastor is of the opinion that it's a heart issue. It all depends on your reason for wearing jewelry.

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