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The Mark of the Beast

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The Mark of the Beast

Christians, especially Protestants, and among them, the Seventh-Day Adventists in particular, enjoy to talk about the mark of the Beast; and with fantastic definitions, that only make a ridiculous picture of themselves. Then, they charge each other with the potential to get the mark of the Beast. They think of almost everything but the real thing, which is given by the NT itself.

The mark of the Beast appears in conjunction with the Antichrist. Morphologically, the term Antichrist is composed of two words: Anti and Christ. Anti means to stand against or to contradict. Christ means what Christians believe Jesus was. So, what stands against Christ is only obvious that it means the Antichrist.

According to Matthew 5:17, Jesus declared that he had not come to abolish the Jewish laws. Then, 30 years later, Paul came and said that what Jesus said was not true, but rather that the Jewish laws were abolished on the cross. (Ephe. 2:15)

As we can see, Paul stood against what Jesus said by contradicting his words about his purpose regarding the Jewish laws. If Jesus was indeed Christ, as Christians believe he was, it's only obvious that Paul acted as the Antichrist.

Now, where did Paul say the Jewish laws were abolished? On the cross. And what did the cross mean to him? "God forbid," he said, "that I should glory in anything save in the cross." The cross meant the glory of Paul. (Gal. 6:14)

Now, we have the mark of the Beast: The cross, a symbol of shame and a curse to the Anointed of the Lord, who, in the words of Habakkuk 3:13, is the People of Israel, the Jewish People.

Now, your comments are welcome.

Ben. :-k

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Ben Masada wrote:The Mark of the Beast

Christians, especially Protestants, and among them, the Seventh-Day Adventists in particular, enjoy to talk about the mark of the Beast; and with fantastic definitions, that only make a ridiculous picture of themselves. Then, they charge each other with the potential to get the mark of the Beast. They think of almost everything but the real thing, which is given by the NT itself.

The mark of the Beast appears in conjunction with the Antichrist. Morphologically, the term Antichrist is composed of two words: Anti and Christ. Anti means to stand against or to contradict. Christ means what Christians believe Jesus was. So, what stands against Christ is only obvious that it means the Antichrist.

According to Matthew 5:17, Jesus declared that he had not come to abolish the Jewish laws. Then, 30 years later, Paul came and said that what Jesus said was not true, but rather that the Jewish laws were abolished on the cross. (Ephe. 2:15)

As we can see, Paul stood against what Jesus said by contradicting his words about his purpose regarding the Jewish laws. If Jesus was indeed Christ, as Christians believe he was, it's only obvious that Paul acted as the Antichrist.

Now, where did Paul say the Jewish laws were abolished? On the cross. And what did the cross mean to him? "God forbid," he said, "that I should glory in anything save in the cross." The cross meant the glory of Paul. (Gal. 6:14)

Now, we have the mark of the Beast: The cross, a symbol of shame and a curse to the Anointed of the Lord, who, in the words of Habakkuk 3:13, is the People of Israel, the Jewish People.

Now, your comments are welcome.

Ben. :-k
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

The Antichrist is that person or group of persons that deny that Jesus is the Christ. Take a quick look around the world and observe which person/group is virulently opposed to Jesus being the Christ. Any entity hating Jesus while at the same time making claims for itself as being Messiah is antichrist. Whether that person/group is The Antichrist remains to be seen. One thing for sure is that when The Antichrist has gained enough power in the world it will be unveiled/revealed.

2 Thessalonians 2
8  And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9  Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

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Paulos, I think your post reveals the dangers that can arise from a literal reading of the Bible. You have given me a glimpse of Ben's fears.

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kayky wrote:Paulos, I think your post reveals the dangers that can arise from a literal reading of the Bible. You have given me a glimpse of Ben's fears.
Yes, to an extent I'm a Biblical literalist. Could you point out to me (please) where I've gone 'off' too far or am mistaken in my line of thought. The way I see it, the NT gives us a simple 'formula' for recognizing the marks of the antichrist ie, you deny Jesus is the Christ and in the process of denying claim that title for one's self. IMO the spirit of antichrist has been swirling about in some form or another since the beginnings of the NT-its nothing new- but that at some time this spirit's power will be amplified much greater and will come to rest on someone/something. This view that the Antichrist will appear some day and fulfill 1 John 2:22 I believe is held by a great many Christians (especially literalists). I didn't come up with this view but do share it. How do you read 1 John 2:22 ?

BTW why would Ben, or anyone else for that matter, have anything to fear ? There is nothing (that I know of) in the NT that says Christians are to oppose the Antichrist in some physical way, "for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh..." (2 Cor 10.4). Our mandate is to love, forgive, pray for, and help all men. I personally believe it will be a battle between the Lord and the Antichrist and not so much between Christians and the Antichrist.

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kayky wrote:Paulos, I think your post reveals the dangers that can arise from a literal reading of the Bible. You have given me a glimpse of Ben's fears.
Paulos wrote:Yes, to an extent I'm a Biblical literalist. Could you point out to me (please) where I've gone 'off' too far or am mistaken in my line of thought.

The Bible does not make sense when read literally. Much of it is based on myth and legend.
Paulos wrote:The way I see it, the NT gives us a simple 'formula' for recognizing the marks of the antichrist ie, you deny Jesus is the Christ and in the process of denying claim that title for one's self.
What about accepting Jesus as Christ but also seeing yourself as Christ? I believe that what Jesus became is potential in all of us.

Paulos wrote:IMO the spirit of antichrist has been swirling about in some form or another since the beginnings of the NT-its nothing new- but that at some time this spirit's power will be amplified much greater and will come to rest on someone/something.
So you imagine some sort of spirit just floating around the planet?
Paulos wrote:This view that the Antichrist will appear some day and fulfill 1 John 2:22 I believe is held by a great many Christians (especially literalists). I didn't come up with this view but do share it. How do you read 1 John 2:22 ?
This verse refers to people who have not realized their own Christhood and are living in the false perceptions of the self-created ego.
Paulos wrote:BTW why would Ben, or anyone else for that matter, have anything to fear ? There is nothing (that I know of) in the NT that says Christians are to oppose the Antichrist in some physical way, "for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh..." (2 Cor 10.4). Our mandate is to love, forgive, pray for, and help all men. I personally believe it will be a battle between the Lord and the Antichrist and not so much between Christians and the Antichrist.
When you take an entire group of people (in this case, the Jews) and place an incendiary label such as "antichrist" on them, you set them up for discrimination and abuse.

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I have seen Paulo's same exact method on a board in my locality. It starts out with that text...and uses the "liar" word as the main weapon. If you state anything the debater doesn't agree with...he says...Jesus/NT says this or that....are you calling Jesus a "liar"?...Or just flat out says you're calling Jesus a liar....and so on.

Many in my locality are intimidated by that. These persons push buttons in the collective unconcious in an attempt to get away with the dog and pony show. Of course "liar" is a traditional synonym for Jews in addistion to being applied to anyone who just doesn't line up.

Another tactic is that they'll often not say the word Jew outright...but refer to "groups" that "deny" Jesus is the messiah. Well, gee. I wonder who they could be talking about....Hindus?

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Kadmon wrote:
Ben Masada wrote:
Kadmon wrote:
Ben Masada wrote:
Kadmon wrote:
Ben Masada wrote:

Who is talking in this scripture? Habakkuk, the Prophet. Who is God's chosen People, are they not the Jewish People? Now, who is God's Anointed in this verse, the Gentiles? I think it's obvious.

Again Who Is The Anti - Christ In This Day & Time By Name ??? Also What A anti-Semite

There is no specific name for the Antichrist. But the first sign of an antichrist is to be anti-Semite. And anti-Semite is to be anti-Jewish or anti-Judaism.
And the most prominent anti-Jewish sentiments started with a former Jew, Paul of all peoples, as he established the policy of Replacement Theology in Galatians 4:21-31.

So According To The Above Your Saying Anyone Who Speak Against Jew Are Anti - Semite Yes ?

So My Question To You Is Orthodox Jews Says The Torah Forbids A Jewish State...
Are Also Anti - Semite Too ?

New York City, 11 June, 2009

On Thursday, June 11, 2009, Anti-Zionist Orthodox Rabbis stood in solidarity with other pro Palestinian people, in front of the United Nations headquarters in New York City, to protest Israel's seizure, 42 years ago, of the West Bank and Gaza.

Can You Explain The Above To Us .

I would not call them anti-Semites but people who have lost sense of reality. They were protesting against a Governmental decision; albeit Jewish, and not against being Jewish or against Jewish lives.

Why Were The So-called Jew Allow To Take The Palestinian Land ?

This Land was never a Palestinian Country in the History of the world. When we got here the British was in power and not Arabs. Then, we pushed them out of our Land. We could have pushed the Arabs too, but we chose to pay for the Land that for over 4000 years belonged to us. And mind you, sometimes even twice we paid. The absentee claimant who was living abroad and the local Arab who was occupying the lot.

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Paulos wrote:
Ben Masada wrote:The Mark of the Beast

Christians, especially Protestants, and among them, the Seventh-Day Adventists in particular, enjoy to talk about the mark of the Beast; and with fantastic definitions, that only make a ridiculous picture of themselves. Then, they charge each other with the potential to get the mark of the Beast. They think of almost everything but the real thing, which is given by the NT itself.

The mark of the Beast appears in conjunction with the Antichrist. Morphologically, the term Antichrist is composed of two words: Anti and Christ. Anti means to stand against or to contradict. Christ means what Christians believe Jesus was. So, what stands against Christ is only obvious that it means the Antichrist.

According to Matthew 5:17, Jesus declared that he had not come to abolish the Jewish laws. Then, 30 years later, Paul came and said that what Jesus said was not true, but rather that the Jewish laws were abolished on the cross. (Ephe. 2:15)

As we can see, Paul stood against what Jesus said by contradicting his words about his purpose regarding the Jewish laws. If Jesus was indeed Christ, as Christians believe he was, it's only obvious that Paul acted as the Antichrist.

Now, where did Paul say the Jewish laws were abolished? On the cross. And what did the cross mean to him? "God forbid," he said, "that I should glory in anything save in the cross." The cross meant the glory of Paul. (Gal. 6:14)

Now, we have the mark of the Beast: The cross, a symbol of shame and a curse to the Anointed of the Lord, who, in the words of Habakkuk 3:13, is the People of Israel, the Jewish People.

Now, your comments are welcome.

Ben. :-k
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

The Antichrist is that person or group of persons that deny that Jesus is the Christ. Take a quick look around the world and observe which person/group is virulently opposed to Jesus being the Christ. Any entity hating Jesus while at the same time making claims for itself as being Messiah is antichrist. Whether that person/group is The Antichrist remains to be seen. One thing for sure is that when The Antichrist has gained enough power in the world it will be unveiled/revealed.

2 Thessalonians 2
8  And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9  Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

This is all Pauline rhetoric that butters no bread. Paul was never really interested in Jesus. He impersonated his Christ with Jesus just to promote Christianity. Jesus was a religious Jew and not a heretic like Paul, who tried to stick Greek Methology into Judaism and failed.

The mark of the beast is a trace of character which we call Antisemitism. Any anti-Semite is part of the Antichrist. The word Christ in Greek means the Anointed of God. According to Habakkuk 3:13, Israel is the Anointed of God. So, if Israel is Christ, any anti-Semite is a member of the Antichrist with the antisemtic sign of the
beast in his or her forehead to mean understanding of what he or she is doing, and
on his or her hand, to mean showing what he or she is through his or her actions.

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