Catholics Are Christians Too!

KitsuneShoujoAi · Post by **KitsuneShoujoAi** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:31 am

This is by far my favorite topic to debate. Not only does history prove that Catholics are the original Christians, the Bible proves that Catholic do indeed follow Jesus Christ and accept Him as the Savior. You think I'm wrong? Try me.

Yolande · Post by **Yolande** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:24 am

If Jesus Christ is your mediator to God the Father and not Mary
If you don't believe in idol worship.
If your trust is in Christ the rock, if He is your Lord and you believe the scriptures that descibe Him as the one that reconciled you to the Father,
and put your trust in Him and Him alone, then I will not say you are not a christian, even if you do mass and some other strange rituals which I don't feel comfortable with.
Join us in the fight for Jesus Christ.
And let us christians not stand divided.
The harvest is ripe and the labourers are few.

KitsuneShoujoAi wrote:This is by far my favorite topic to debate. Not only does history prove that Catholics are the original Christians, the Bible proves that Catholic do indeed follow Jesus Christ and accept Him as the Savior. You think I'm wrong? Try me.

JoeyKnothead · Post by **JoeyKnothead** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:08 am

I would contend the issue of whether Catholics are True Christians(tm) would be a theological debate, in that it asks whether the proposed god accepts such Catholics under the banner of Christianity.

micatala · Post by **micatala** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:05 am

KitsuneShoujoAi wrote:This is by far my favorite topic to debate. Not only does history prove that Catholics are the original Christians, the Bible proves that Catholic do indeed follow Jesus Christ and accept Him as the Savior. You think I'm wrong? Try me.

Although I am a former Catholic, you will get no argument from me that Catholic's are Christian.

You might find a recent thread on the Theology forum of interest.
It is entitled What's the Beef with Catholics?

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:51 am

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I've moved this to the Theology subforum. This is more a question of what to include within genuine Christianity (theology, doctrine and dogma) than a question of whether Christianity is valid (apologetics).

Coyotero · Post by **Coyotero** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:54 am

I want to know where it's anyone else's business?

The only people who should be worried if Catholics are true Christians are (A)Catholics and (B)Christ. Everyone else should back off.

As far as I see it:

Worship of Christ = Christian.

Includes Catholics, Mormons, and any other crazy sects you may want to throw in. Different means of accomplishing the same end.

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:55 am

I don't think that you can adequately debate whether Roman Catholics are Christians unless you first define Christianity. And the definition has to be a theological one rather than an anthropological one. Each Christian denomination has their own definition of what defines any individual as being a Christian. Which one is valid and true?

nimesh0775 · Post by **nimesh0775** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:59 am

Dear McCulloch,

Dictionary says Christian means one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ.

By that token anyone who believes in Jesus's teachings in a Christian simple as that.

Your servant,
Nimesh

McCulloch wrote:I don't think that you can adequately debate whether Roman Catholics are Christians unless you first define Christianity. And the definition has to be a theological one rather than an anthropological one. Each Christian denomination has their own definition of what defines any individual as being a Christian. Which one is valid and true?

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:48 am

nimesh0775 wrote:Dictionary says Christian means one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ.

By that token anyone who believes in Jesus's teachings in a Christian simple as that.

What then are the teachings of Jesus? Are they only the teachings recorded in the Bible or do they include teachings passed down through the Church or teachings revealed by other means by the spiritual resurrected Christ?

KitsuneShoujoAi · Post by **KitsuneShoujoAi** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:05 pm

Yolande wrote:If Jesus Christ is your mediator to God the Father and not Mary
If you don't believe in idol worship.
If your trust is in Christ the rock, if He is your Lord and you believe the scriptures that descibe Him as the one that reconciled you to the Father,
and put your trust in Him and Him alone, then I will not say you are not a christian, even if you do mass and some other strange rituals which I don't feel comfortable with.
Join us in the fight for Jesus Christ.
And let us christians not stand divided.
The harvest is ripe and the labourers are few.

KitsuneShoujoAi wrote:This is by far my favorite topic to debate. Not only does history prove that Catholics are the original Christians, the Bible proves that Catholic do indeed follow Jesus Christ and accept Him as the Savior. You think I'm wrong? Try me.

Catholics ask Mary to pray for them same as you may ask a friend. We see at the Wedding at Canna that Jesus refuses his mother nothing.

We do not worship idols. We use tools like images and rosaries to help us concentrate on our prayers. It's easier to focus on Jesus when you can see him.

Also let it stand that Catholics were the first Christians. The division started with Martin Luther.

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