Hi everyone. Your old friend sender. Thought I would revisit some old cyber "haunts" and pass some time. Firstly, I come in piece. You'll find I am a kinder, gentler sender than the one you all fell in love with, lol.
I posed this question to myself recently, I mean I really thought long and hard about it, and this is what I asked...what I found...and why I asked it.
First:
Is there God?
Ask this question directly to yourself, I mean hard and seriously. Not for a philosophical debate, but as a one on one question, between you and God, Do you believe he exists?
We'll just deal in absolutes and either answer yes or no.
If your answer is yes, move to the line I have always been in.
If your answer is no, you go in another line and do what happens there.
The yes answers...follow me. Now, I have recently found out I have some major health issues and I am facing going to the hospital for a few days and get it fixed. I could live, die, become paralyzed, whatever.
Also, as I write this, if this problem did its nasty deed anytime from now until I have the procedure, I will die, 100% guaranteed. this is the why I asked the question
Now you know the question, you know the reason, and here is what I found, or actually, just reaffirmed. God literally holds my life in his hands. If my aorta burst, BOOM, my wife will come home and see me dead typing to you guys with keyboard firmly in hand.
Digging deeper on this thought, I concluded aneurysm or totally healthy, God holds every breath in his hands regardless. The "triple A" just made me focus, or I should say, re focus on this fact.
You and I, rather you're in your 20's, 30's or 51 like me, God holds every breath in his hands. Once I realized that, it gave me "peace" that the bible says "surpasses all understanding".
I am very content with that.
Is there God?
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Post #21
I have gone into some detail on a thread in the "ask a question" forum.
It was started by Joey some time ago.
I was a Minister, D.
It was started by Joey some time ago.
I was a Minister, D.
Sender wrote:So, what did you believe when you said you were a Christian, and what do you believe now?catalyst wrote:Hi Sender,
Sorry about the delay in reply. My Desktop HD decided to "clap it in" and I only got this new one yesterday afternoon. ANY pending replies I had done are now lost.
First up, glad you see you are back on board.
Why I believed. At the time I needed to fill a void that the death of my Grandmother caused. I realise that now.
Why don't I now? Life, death and the whole shebang.
T..xx
Sender wrote:Previous post should have been in other thread.
Yes we'll talk more on the subject at hand in this thread. I am sure the vultures will be out in full force ready to pick my bones, but yeah, sounds fun
If you want to get it jump started, tell me why you believed and now don't
Post #22
With all do respect, your not getting off that easy. Exactly why was my statement not helpful? and where did I imply I knew what anyone was thinking? This si not malicious I am really just wondering where your coming from. Tell me what you disagree with in my post...Sender wrote:Such sweeping statement are not helpful, and thinking you know what one is thinking borders on arrogance.weingro2 wrote:If you have never doubted the existence of god then you truly have not thought long and hard about it. It is only when we question what we know that we can really reach the truth.Sender wrote:Nope, just saying whats going on in my life. I have never doubted the existance of God.McCulloch wrote: It sounds to me that you are not thinking long and hard, but looking for conformation, comfort and reassurance in the face of your own mortality.
Also, whether god exists or not is not a yes or no answer. In order to answer this I would like you to give me a definite description of "him." Here's the catch, the minute you start trying to describe this so called god he is no longer infinite, when you decribe god as "him" that means that he couldnt be a women, but if he couldnt be a women then he is not all powerful and omnipitent. Or rather if god could onyl be described as a human or living being in general then all assumptions of who god really is would be void. I believe there is something greater than us, but I dont think any one religion has it right, and if they think they do then they are inherently wrong.
Post #23
You said "I haven't thought long and hard" if I believe a certain way.weingro2 wrote:With all do respect, your not getting off that easy. Exactly why was my statement not helpful? and where did I imply I knew what anyone was thinking? This si not malicious I am really just wondering where your coming from. Tell me what you disagree with in my post...Sender wrote:Such sweeping statement are not helpful, and thinking you know what one is thinking borders on arrogance.weingro2 wrote:If you have never doubted the existence of god then you truly have not thought long and hard about it. It is only when we question what we know that we can really reach the truth.Sender wrote:Nope, just saying whats going on in my life. I have never doubted the existance of God.McCulloch wrote: It sounds to me that you are not thinking long and hard, but looking for conformation, comfort and reassurance in the face of your own mortality.
Also, whether god exists or not is not a yes or no answer. In order to answer this I would like you to give me a definite description of "him." Here's the catch, the minute you start trying to describe this so called god he is no longer infinite, when you decribe god as "him" that means that he couldnt be a women, but if he couldnt be a women then he is not all powerful and omnipitent. Or rather if god could onyl be described as a human or living being in general then all assumptions of who god really is would be void. I believe there is something greater than us, but I dont think any one religion has it right, and if they think they do then they are inherently wrong.
You say you believe there is something greater than us out there, is God of the Bible a possibilty, or have you ruled that out/
Post #24
You stated that If I believe a certain way I must not have thought long and hard about it. To me, that's arroganceweingro2 wrote: With all do respect, your not getting off that easy. Exactly why was my statement not helpful? and where did I imply I knew what anyone was thinking? This si not malicious I am really just wondering where your coming from. Tell me what you disagree with in my post...
You say there is something greater than us "out there", could it be God of the Bible, or have you ruled that out?
Post #25
Everyone must speak from their own experiences and their own point of view. I didi not say that it was a fact that you havent thought long and hard about the question, I was saying in my opinion (which I believe to be absolutely true), you can never really trust an answer you think you have until you question it. Have you thought abotu the fact that if you had been born in the middle east instead of the USA that we would be having this conversation about Alah or maybe the Torah instead. To me that is why I am so skeptical of religions. However, I would never rule anything out. there is a possibility that god of the bible is the "greater power", but even if that is true i dont agree with the way many christians go about trying to "spread there knowledge." all the bestSender wrote:You stated that If I believe a certain way I must not have thought long and hard about it. To me, that's arroganceweingro2 wrote: With all do respect, your not getting off that easy. Exactly why was my statement not helpful? and where did I imply I knew what anyone was thinking? This si not malicious I am really just wondering where your coming from. Tell me what you disagree with in my post...
You say there is something greater than us "out there", could it be God of the Bible, or have you ruled that out?
