Something Bad Jesus Did

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Something Bad Jesus Did

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Once, I was asked if there was anything bad Jesus did in his life. I thought for a while and the following came up to my mind.

Yes, there was something Jesus did, which I wish he had not done, because it does
not represent well the People he belonged to.

Once a Gentile Canaanite mother was crying after him, asking for her daughter to be cured, and Jesus would not give a damn to her. His disciples told him to do something for that woman or discard her, because she was making them go crazy with her non-stop crying.

What did Jesus say? I haven't come for Gentiles but ONLY for the House of Israel. Then, kept on going and the woman kept on crying and following him.

When he couldn't take any longer, he stopped and told her something more or less in the following terms: Hey, listen, what do you want from me? To cure my daughter Master. No way, I cannot take of the food of the children and throw it unto the dogs.

He meant the Jews for the children, and the Gentiles for the dogs. But only after the woman understood and recognized her condition of dog, by saying that the dogs also feed from the crumbles that fall from the table of the children, Jesus saw that he would never get rid of that woman. So, he changed his mind and cured her
daughter. Then, to erase a little the impression left on her for being forced to recognize her doggy condition, he mentioned something about her strong faith and left.

That was terrible, if we can imagine what that poor mother went through till she got
what she wanted. The text is in Matthew 15:21-28.

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you missing something
Jesus was a God prophet
So he could do nothing till he saw it in a vision

So that whole thing was played of before him, before it happened
So he could have seen she doesn't have enough faith
so he wasn't cruel he just knew what was needed for her to get enough faith
So knowing that he knew that she had to tag along and see how other people was healed and by seeing that the faith in her heart grew stronger and stronger
and that is the thing that healed her daughter

When he said that about the dog he was showing her humbleness
and the way a true gentile should be
The same what the captain came to him and asked him to heal and Jesus said take me to her and then he said just say the word and it will be so

Thats to show how a gentile should be

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malachi4 wrote:you missing something
Jesus was a God prophet
So he could do nothing till he saw it in a vision

So that whole thing was played of before him, before it happened
So he could have seen she doesn't have enough faith
so he wasn't cruel he just knew what was needed for her to get enough faith
So knowing that he knew that she had to tag along and see how other people was healed and by seeing that the faith in her heart grew stronger and stronger
and that is the thing that healed her daughter

When he said that about the dog he was showing her humbleness
and the way a true gentile should be
The same what the captain came to him and asked him to heal and Jesus said take me to her and then he said just say the word and it will be so

Thats to show how a gentile should be
Very good! So, why would he forbid his disciples to bring his gospel to the Gentiles and much less to Samaritans? That's in Matthew 10:6.

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Because Jesus was still alive
The Jews always has and always will be God people
But after they rejected him and he died on the cross
He instructed Paul to preach to the Jews
Same with the gentiles in our day
One of these days it will go back to the Jews then the time for gentiles are over

Look closely at the story of Joseph it is a type of Christ
His Brothers sold him
Lived in the palace took him a Gentile wife
After that he tell his brothers who he is and they come stay out side the palace

Same as Jesus Jews killed him
Turned to gentile to get a wife (for his name sake Paul says)
After that he will return to the Jews

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malachi4 wrote:Because Jesus was still alive
The Jews always has and always will be God people
But after they rejected him and he died on the cross
He instructed Paul to preach to the Jews
Same with the gentiles in our day
One of these days it will go back to the Jews then the time for gentiles are over

Look closely at the story of Joseph it is a type of Christ
His Brothers sold him
Lived in the palace took him a Gentile wife
After that he tell his brothers who he is and they come stay out side the palace

Same as Jesus Jews killed him
Turned to gentile to get a wife (for his name sake Paul says)
After that he will return to the Jews
Jesus was still alive when he cured the daughter of the Gentile woman.
How are you going to explain that one now?

Who said that Jesus instructed Paul to teach to the Jews after he died, Paul? But of course! Who else? I wonder why Jesus' Apostles didn't believe in him.

Talking about Joseph, any comparison with Jesus is possible only by assumptions.
The betrayal of Jesus was a plagiarism of the sale of Joseph by his brothers.
I wonder why they did copy for Jesus the wedding of Joseph with a Gentile woman.

Ben: :-k

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It interests me how the letters and books after the gospels document battles of power and direction between the apostles of Jesus, and Paul. If Jesus upon his resurrection had appeared to everyone and told them to spread his word to all peoples including Gentiles, why did no–one mention this when Paul argued that they should spread the word to the Gentiles? Why did Jesus’ Apostles oppose Paul’s desire to preach to Gentiles? Why did they only give in after they made pretty much no headway with Jews?
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Pazuzu bin Hanbi wrote:It interests me how the letters and books after the gospels document battles of power and direction between the apostles of Jesus, and Paul. If Jesus upon his resurrection had appeared to everyone and told them to spread his word to all peoples including Gentiles, why did no–one mention this when Paul argued that they should spread the word to the Gentiles? Why did Jesus’ Apostles oppose Paul’s desire to preach to Gentiles? Why did they only give in after they made pretty much no headway with Jews?
It interests me how little green men have infiltrated the U.S. government and are secretly running things. Why did our armies not stop them? Are we not powerful enough? I'm sure it has something to do with the black helicopters and the tri-lateral commission. If people would only listen to Tony Bushby, we'd all be ok.

There is as much fact in the ridiculous paragraph I have just typed as in the above quoted post. And also as much evidence for it.

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OK SIR YOU WIN

jESUS WAS AN EVIL MAN #-o

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malachi4 wrote:OK SIR YOU WIN

jESUS WAS AN EVIL MAN #-o
No, he was not. If there is an evil man here, he was Paul. Jesus was innocent of everything evil that has been done in his name throughout History.

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Pazuzu bin Hanbi wrote:It interests me how the letters and books after the gospels document battles of power and direction between the apostles of Jesus, and Paul. If Jesus upon his resurrection had appeared to everyone and told them to spread his word to all peoples including Gentiles, why did no–one mention this when Paul argued that they should spread the word to the Gentiles? Why did Jesus’ Apostles oppose Paul’s desire to preach to Gentiles? Why did they only give in after they made pretty much no headway with Jews?
When did Paul decide to go to the Gentiles? I have read the NT more than several times, and it doesn't occur to me that he did that. It's perfectly fair to say that 98 percent of Paul's missionary activities were among the Jews, especially the Nazarenes, fishing his converts from the synagogues. He was never able to start a church of Gentiles from scratch. That's the whole truth, nothing but.

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