Would Jesus approve of Christianity?

[Flail]

Jesus taught

**not to pray for specific things
**to say the Lords prayer...which simply recognizes God and asks for personal strength..not to solve our daily specific needs
** to pray alone...in solitude
** that God did not want 'sacrifices'..ie rituals and worship...but rather kindness
** Jesus sent his disciples to spread his anti-religious message to homes and towns and not to churches
** Jesus said...'judge not, lest ye be judged'...ie...if you judge that others of differing belief systems are unworthy of God...you will be judged unworthy of God... just being a Christian judges all others to be unworthy of God.
** that evil would come in sheeps clothing...ie...that evil is not what is obvious...that is just sin....evil looks like it is from God...ie ..Religion...

[Ghost_of_Amityville]

** that evil would come in sheeps clothing...ie...that evil is not what is obvious...that is just sin....evil looks like it is from God...ie ..Religion...

That's actually pretty odd because Jesus did indeed warn his followers against wolves in sheep's clothing, but I took that warning the exact opposite of the way you took it. Instead of evil not being obvious, the message of the warning is that evil is obvious. The logic is that even if evil comes in the guise of good, it will still be obvious that it is indeed evil.

This is backed up by the claim of Jesus that people will be able to tell good from evil by fruits (i.e. deeds). I believe this claim comes right before or right after Jesus makes his warning about wolves in sheep's clothing in the Gospels.

[Chimp]

it will still be obvious that it is indeed evil.

If it'll be obvious...why the warning?

[Flail]

Jesus warned us against evil because of the probability that we would miss it since it comes to us 'disguised in sheeps clothing"..

evil(religion) looks like a sheep,sounds like a sheep, talks like a sheep but is really a wolf....it looks and sounds good...it looks and sounds like it is from God...but it is evil personified....Jesus gave us other clues to discovering evil...

it likes to say long repititions(rituals)
it likes to sit in the best places in church(altar)
it likes to wear long robes(priests)
it likes to stand on the street corner(seeks populate and to be seen...where are most churches?)

by their fruits(results) you will know them...(fruits of religion...war...hate...judgement..death...terrorism)...evil indeed

which is why jesus intentionally sent the disciples away from churches and directly to homes and communities to spread his message of love and kindness....and he said "God does not want your sacrifices(religion) but rather your kindness"

that is why Jesus compared the Priest(Religion) to the Samaritan(kindness without religion) in the story of the Good Samaritan.....God wants kindness ....Religion is evil

lets turn all the churches into soup kitchens

[arayhay]

Jesus taught

**not to pray for specific things
**to say the Lords prayer...which simply recognizes God and asks for personal strength..not to solve our daily specific needs
** to pray alone...in solitude
** that God did not want 'sacrifices'..ie rituals and worship...but rather kindness
** Jesus sent his disciples to spread his anti-religious message to homes and towns and not to churches
** Jesus said...'judge not, lest ye be judged'...ie...if you judge that others of differing belief systems are unworthy of God...you will be judged unworthy of God... just being a Christian judges all others to be unworthy of God.
** that evil would come in sheeps clothing...ie...that evil is not what is obvious...that is just sin....evil looks like it is from God...ie ..Religion...

I'd much rather see a thread; Did jesus/Yahshua START CHRISTIANITY ?

TO FOLLOW THIS QUESTION LEADS TO A DECIPHERING OF THE NUMEROUS FORMS OF CHRISTIANITY.

[Ghost_of_Amityville]

it will still be obvious that it is indeed evil.

If it'll be obvious...why the warning?

It was a warning of correct logic. Like, instead of being unjustly suspicious of something (which is what someone would be if they thought evil would be what one least expects), one should be able to properly tell what evil is because it will be obvious.

IOW, when it comes to morality, one shouldn't go beyond what he or she sees or else he or she is going to miss the point.

[Ghost_of_Amityville]

Jesus warned us against evil because of the probability that we would miss it since it comes to us 'disguised in sheeps clothing"..

evil(religion) looks like a sheep,sounds like a sheep, talks like a sheep but is really a wolf....it looks and sounds good...it looks and sounds like it is from God...but it is evil personified....Jesus gave us other clues to discovering evil...

it likes to say long repititions(rituals)
it likes to sit in the best places in church(altar)
it likes to wear long robes(priests)
it likes to stand on the street corner(seeks populate and to be seen...where are most churches?)

by their fruits(results) you will know them...(fruits of religion...war...hate...judgement..death...terrorism)...evil indeed

which is why jesus intentionally sent the disciples away from churches and directly to homes and communities to spread his message of love and kindness....and he said "God does not want your sacrifices(religion) but rather your kindness"

that is why Jesus compared the Priest(Religion) to the Samaritan(kindness without religion) in the story of the Good Samaritan.....God wants kindness ....Religion is evil

lets turn all the churches into soup kitchens

You're correct that Jesus warned people against the religious leaders of his day, but you are incorrect in concluding that Jesus' condemnations of those religious leaders implies a condemnation of religion in general.

You should be careful in seeing some direct connection between Jesus' condemnation of the Pharisees (the verses about repetition, robes, praying at street corners, etc.) and Jesus' warnings about correct logic in determining good from evil (the verses about wolves in sheeps' clothing, trees and fruits, etc.)

Each of those verses should be taken individually. For example, the verse(s) about repetition was Jesus teaching his disciples how to pray properly, not some condemnation of religion.

[Flail]

Amity

The problem with basing your life on a book written by men who thought the world was flat is in interpertation.

I think Jesus words in Matthew clearly read as a condemnation of any belief system that fits his discription.....and warning us that evil exists where you least expect it despite outward appearance and claims of being from God and in particular he warned against believing the claims of those with long robes and prayers and on the altar claiming to teach the truth but in reality teaching evil.

[Ghost_of_Amityville]

Amity

The problem with basing your life on a book written by men who thought the world was flat is in interpertation.

I think Jesus words in Matthew clearly read as a condemnation of any belief system that fits his discription.....and warning us that evil exists where you least expect it despite outward appearance and claims of being from God and in particular he warned against believing the claims of those with long robes and prayers and on the altar claiming to teach the truth but in reality teaching evil.

This is why I don't rely on subjective interpretations of the Bible, which is what you have expressed. In fact, you're basing your life more on the book that is the Bible than I am.

I must respectfully say that your interpretation doesn't make much sense to me.

[twobitsmedia]

Amity

The problem with basing your life on a book written by men who thought the world was flat is in interpertation.

It's probably not any diffrent than you believing the Bible was written by men who thought the world was flat.