How do I get to heaven?

acamp1 · Post by **acamp1** » Sat May 19, 2007 9:58 am

Simple question.

adlemi · Post by **adlemi** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:28 am

twobitsmedia wrote:
adlemi wrote:
Just don't forget that you cannot be saved not unless you are under Jesus himself and living saved is literally living and supping with Jesus as in the days of the apostle.
Wouldn't that pose a little problem "literally" since He physically died?

That's what others say the bible allegedly says - Jesus died on the cross - but God says otherwise in reality. The Lord said to us that Jesus is the Almighty Lord God who is also Emmanuel, Mighty God, Everlasting FAther, Prince of Peace, Wonderful, Counsellor, etc. On the other hand, the child which was born of Mary was flesh and blood like us and that child who grew up to more or less 33 years old was the one who died on the cross. He, the child, is not Jesus who is the Almighty Lord God who happened, during those times, to lived/templed /dwelt in to that physical body which suffered death on the cross. Jesus is always God and He is not man, He only came in flesh but detached from same after His incarnation period. There is no truth that Jesus died hence poses no problem in supping and living with Jesus as in the days of the apostles.

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:43 am

adlemi wrote:
twobitsmedia wrote:
adlemi wrote:
Just don't forget that you cannot be saved not unless you are under Jesus himself and living saved is literally living and supping with Jesus as in the days of the apostle.
Wouldn't that pose a little problem "literally" since He physically died?
That's what others say the bible allegedly says - Jesus died on the cross - but God says otherwise in reality. The Lord said to us that Jesus is the Almighty Lord God who is also Emmanuel, Mighty God, Everlasting FAther, Prince of Peace, Wonderful, Counsellor, etc. On the other hand, the child which was born of Mary was flesh and blood like us and that child who grew up to more or less 33 years old was the one who died on the cross. He, the child, is not Jesus who is the Almighty Lord God who happened, during those times, to lived/templed /dwelt in to that physical body which suffered death on the cross. Jesus is always God and He is not man, He only came in flesh but detached from same after His incarnation period. There is no truth that Jesus died hence poses no problem in supping and living with Jesus as in the days of the apostles.

The phrase "Emanual, might god , everlasting father' are from Isaiah 9:6, and are the royal names of Heziekel. It is not refereing to Jesus what so ever.

I mean, if CHristians can't even get that straight, how can anybody trust anything they say?

adlemi · Post by **adlemi** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:41 pm

goat wrote: The phrase "Emanual, might god , everlasting father' are from Isaiah 9:6, and are the royal names of Heziekel. It is not refereing to Jesus what so ever.?

Was that an opinion or what? From whom did you get this information?

goat wrote:I mean, if CHristians can't even get that straight, how can anybody trust anything they say?

How can they get that straight when they are just reading and studying from the bible itself? Can they be taught by the bible itself?

twobitsmedia · Post by **twobitsmedia** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:59 pm

adlemi wrote:
twobitsmedia wrote:
adlemi wrote:
Just don't forget that you cannot be saved not unless you are under Jesus himself and living saved is literally living and supping with Jesus as in the days of the apostle.
Wouldn't that pose a little problem "literally" since He physically died?
That's what others say the bible allegedly says - Jesus died on the cross - but God says otherwise in reality. The Lord said to us that Jesus is the Almighty Lord God who is also Emmanuel, Mighty God, Everlasting FAther, Prince of Peace, Wonderful, Counsellor, etc. On the other hand, the child which was born of Mary was flesh and blood like us and that child who grew up to more or less 33 years old was the one who died on the cross. He, the child, is not Jesus who is the Almighty Lord God who happened, during those times, to lived/templed /dwelt in to that physical body which suffered death on the cross. Jesus is always God and He is not man, He only came in flesh but detached from same after His incarnation period. There is no truth that Jesus died hence poses no problem in supping and living with Jesus as in the days of the apostles.

So are you having dinner with Jesus tonight?

twobitsmedia · Post by **twobitsmedia** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:02 am

goat wrote: The phrase "Emanual, might god , everlasting father' are from Isaiah 9:6, and are the royal names of Heziekel. It is not refereing to Jesus what so ever.

Is 9:6 is a prophecy relating the birth of Jesus. Where do you get this Heziekel connection?

adlemi · Post by **adlemi** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:46 am

twobitsmedia wrote: So are you having dinner with Jesus tonight?

huh! don't you have any, even one? i hope you, too, my have with Him my friend.

twobitsmedia · Post by **twobitsmedia** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:07 am

adlemi wrote:
twobitsmedia wrote: So are you having dinner with Jesus tonight?
huh! don't you have any, even one? i hope you, too, my have with Him my friend.

Well...I eat a lot of deli food. Maybe he doesn't like chicken.

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:13 am

adlemi wrote:
goat wrote: The phrase "Emanual, might god , everlasting father' are from Isaiah 9:6, and are the royal names of Heziekel. It is not refereing to Jesus what so ever.?
Was that an opinion or what? From whom did you get this information?

I received that information from the Rabbi's. However, heziekel, literally means'
"God is strength" , or "Mighty God". Knowing some Hebrew does help.

Also. looking up some history in context does help.

spiritletter · Post by **spiritletter** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:29 pm

How do you get to a metaphor?

twobitsmedia · Post by **twobitsmedia** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:09 pm

goat wrote:
adlemi wrote:
goat wrote: The phrase "Emanual, might god , everlasting father' are from Isaiah 9:6, and are the royal names of Heziekel. It is not refereing to Jesus what so ever.?
Was that an opinion or what? From whom did you get this information?

I received that information from the Rabbi's. However, heziekel, literally means'
"God is strength" , or "Mighty God". Knowing some Hebrew does help.

Also. looking up some history in context does help.

The name "Heiekel" means "God is Strength." Is 9:6 is referring to the coming Messiah Jesus. Keeping it in context would be more helpful.