Who created all things?

[servant1]

Isaiah 44:24- This is what Jehovah has said, your repurchaser and the former of you from the belly. I Jehovah am doing everything, stretching out the heavens by myself, laying out the Earth. Who was with me?

Myself= the only power source and designer. How do we know this-Because Jesus was involved as well-How?
Gen 1:26--Let US make man in our image-US = more than 1 being--Gen 1:27-HE( 1 being) created--Prov 8:27-28- HE( 1being) created.
So what does US mean then?= Us = Jehovah and his master worker( Prov 8:30)= the one beside God during creation, the one whom God grew especially fond of= his son.
Jesus= The firstborn of all creation--All creation occurred at the beginning--PROOF=Prov 8:22 Possessed me as the beginning of your way( creating). The Hebrew word used for possessed means-created. Thus created direct, first and last, all other things created-THROUGH( John 1:3, Col 1:160) Through = another did the creating).= Jehovah.-)--- things created through Gods master worker. The word only begotten son means monogenes=unique=created direct first and last.
Most religions teach untruth on this matter, but i have presented bible facts on it.
Do you believe the evidence?

[marke]

Isaiah 44:24- This is what Jehovah has said, your repurchaser and the former of you from the belly. I Jehovah am doing everything, stretching out the heavens by myself, laying out the Earth. Who was with me?

Myself= the only power source and designer. How do we know this-Because Jesus was involved as well-How?
Gen 1:26--Let US make man in our image-US = more than 1 being--Gen 1:27-HE( 1 being) created--Prov 8:27-28- HE( 1being) created.
So what does US mean then?= Us = Jehovah and his master worker( Prov 8:30)= the one beside God during creation, the one whom God grew especially fond of= his son.
Jesus= The firstborn of all creation--All creation occurred at the beginning--PROOF=Prov 8:22 Possessed me as the beginning of your way( creating). The Hebrew word used for possessed means-created. Thus created direct, first and last, all other things created-THROUGH( John 1:3, Col 1:160) Through = another did the creating).= Jehovah.-)--- things created through Gods master worker. The word only begotten son means monogenes=unique=created direct first and last.
Most religions teach untruth on this matter, but i have presented bible facts on it.
Do you believe the evidence?

Marke: The exalted Son of God was said to have been with God the Father at the beginning and involved with God the Father in the creation of all things.

John 1
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

[servant1]

[Replying to marke in post #2]


I just showed you 100% real bible evidence that your belief is error. You can't just throw evidence away to believe 1 line. The whole bible must be applied to matters.
And all who have seen the Greek at John 1:1 knows The Word was called a different Greek word than the true God was called Why? God=Theon to the true God-Theos= god to the Word. Proof 2Cor 4:4 has the same 2 Greek words-Theon= God, Theos= god. Your translations are filled with errors to mislead. In fact its undeniable fact-God put his personal name in over 7000 spots in his real translation. Wicked men who had no right removed it by satans will and replaced Gods name with titles=GOD or LORD to mislead. All using the altered translations will LOSE. They are giving support to satans will on that matter over Jesus' Fathers will( Matt 7:21)
Catholicism altered Gods translating in the 4th century to fit false council teachings=100% fact of reality.

[Capbook]

Isaiah 44:24- This is what Jehovah has said, your repurchaser and the former of you from the belly. I Jehovah am doing everything, stretching out the heavens by myself, laying out the Earth. Who was with me?

Myself= the only power source and designer. How do we know this-Because Jesus was involved as well-How?
Gen 1:26--Let US make man in our image-US = more than 1 being--Gen 1:27-HE( 1 being) created--Prov 8:27-28- HE( 1being) created.
So what does US mean then?= Us = Jehovah and his master worker( Prov 8:30)= the one beside God during creation, the one whom God grew especially fond of= his son.
Jesus= The firstborn of all creation--All creation occurred at the beginning--PROOF=Prov 8:22 Possessed me as the beginning of your way( creating). The Hebrew word used for possessed means-created. Thus created direct, first and last, all other things created-THROUGH( John 1:3, Col 1:160) Through = another did the creating).= Jehovah.-)--- things created through Gods master worker. The word only begotten son means monogenes=unique=created direct first and last.
Most religions teach untruth on this matter, but i have presented bible facts on it.
Do you believe the evidence?

Ok, let's discuss your proof text, Pro 8:22, the word "possessed" in Hebrew "qanah" defined by LSBEC and NASEC as "to get, acquire, possessed, possessor, form and etc. But verses with same Strong#H7069, can be found in various verses that means "I have gotten"(Gen 4:1), "bought"(Gen 47:22), "shall be possessed"(Jer 32:15) and "possessor"(Gen 14:19) and "hast possessed(Psa 139:13).
None of them used H7069 as created. You just have one "proof text" that is misunderstood.
Verses as evidences below diminished your misinterpreted text.

Gen 4:1 Now the man H120 N1 had H3045  relations H3045  with his wife H802  Eve H2332 , and she conceived H2029  and gave H3205  birth H3205  to  N2 Cain H7014b , and she said H559 , "I have gotten H7069  a  N3 manchild H376  with the help of the LORD H3068 ."

Gen 47:22 Only H7535  the land H127  of the priests H3548  bought H7069  he not; H3808  for H3588  the priests H3548  had a portion H2706  assigned them of H4480 H854  Pharaoh, H6547  and did eat H398  ( H853 ) their portion H2706  which H834  Pharaoh H6547  gave H5414  them: wherefore H5921 H3651  they sold H4376  not H3808  ( H853 ) their lands. H127

Jer 32:15 For H3588  thus H3541  saith H559  the LORD H3068  of hosts, H6635  the God H430  of Israel; H3478  Houses H1004  and fields H7704  and vineyards H3754  shall be possessed H7069  again H5750  in this H2063  land. H776

Gen 14:19 And he blessed H1288  him, and said, H559  Blessed H1288  be Abram H87  of the most high H5945  God, H410  possessor H7069  of heaven H8064  and earth: H776

Psa 139:13 For H3588  thou H859  hast possessed H7069  my reins: H3629  thou hast covered H5526  me in my mother's H517  womb. H990


Prov 8:22
22 "The Lord possessed me at the beginning of His way,
Before His works of old.
NASB

H7069 (Legacy Standard Bible Exhaustive Concordance)
קָנָה
qanah (888d); a prim. root; to get, acquire: — acquire(15), acquired(3), acquires(3), bought(21), buy(19), buyer(4), buying(2), buys(1), formed(1), gotten(1), owner(1), possessed(1), possessor(2), purchased(2), purchaser(3), sold(1), surely buy(2).

H7069 (New American Standard Exhaustive Concordance)
קָנָה qanah
a prim. root; to get, acquire:—
acquire(, acquired(1), acquires(2), bought(15), buy(23), buyer(4), buying(2), buys(1), certainly buy(2), created(2), gained(1), get(2), gets(1), obtained(1), owner(1), Possessor(2), purchased(, purchaser(3), recover(1), redeemed(1), sold(1).

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #2]


I just showed you 100% real bible evidence that your belief is error. You can't just throw evidence away to believe 1 line. The whole bible must be applied to matters.
And all who have seen the Greek at John 1:1 knows The Word was called a different Greek word than the true God was called Why? God=Theon to the true God-Theos= god to the Word. Proof 2Cor 4:4 has the same 2 Greek words-Theon= God, Theos= god. Your translations are filled with errors to mislead. In fact its undeniable fact-God put his personal name in over 7000 spots in his real translation. Wicked men who had no right removed it by satans will and replaced Gods name with titles=GOD or LORD to mislead. All using the altered translations will LOSE. They are giving support to satans will on that matter over Jesus' Fathers will( Matt 7:21)
Catholicism altered Gods translating in the 4th century to fit false council teachings=100% fact of reality.

Marke: I saw no evidence that you have proved me wrong. Here is my statement:

Marke: The exalted Son of God...
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In His Ascension Christ was Exalted by God to the Highest
Yes, the Bible, particularly the New Testament, explicitly exalts Jesus. The Bible describes God as highly exalting Jesus, giving him a name above every other name, and declaring that every knee will bow to Jesus and every tongue confess that he is Lord. This exaltation is seen as a reward for his humility and obedience, including his death on the cross.

was said to have been with God the Father at the beginning ...

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Yes, the Bible claims Jesus was with God before the world began. Specifically, John 1:1-4 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.". This passage describes Jesus as the "Word," who existed with God from the beginning and was instrumental in creation.

and involved with God the Father in the creation of all things.

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Yes, Christian theology generally affirms that Jesus was intimately involved with God in the creation of all things. He is often referred to as the Logos or the "Word," through whom all things were made. Westmont College explains that as God's agent in creation, Jesus, pre-incarnate Christ, was the Creator of all that exists. Christian Standard Bible notes that Jesus's position as "firstborn" shows his superiority over creation, and his involvement in its creation.

[placebofactor]

[Replying to marke in post #2]


I just showed you 100% real bible evidence that your belief is error. You can't just throw evidence away to believe 1 line. The whole bible must be applied to matters.
And all who have seen the Greek at John 1:1 knows The Word was called a different Greek word than the true God was called Why? God=Theon to the true God-Theos= god to the Word. Proof 2Cor 4:4 has the same 2 Greek words-Theon= God, Theos= god. Your translations are filled with errors to mislead. In fact its undeniable fact-God put his personal name in over 7000 spots in his real translation. Wicked men who had no right removed it by satans will and replaced Gods name with titles=GOD or LORD to mislead. All using the altered translations will LOSE. They are giving support to satans will on that matter over Jesus' Fathers will( Matt 7:21)
Catholicism altered Gods translating in the 4th century to fit false council teachings=100% fact of reality.

Marke: I saw no evidence that you have proved me wrong. Here is my statement:

Marke: The exalted Son of God...
AI Overview
Learn more
In His Ascension Christ was Exalted by God to the Highest
Yes, the Bible, particularly the New Testament, explicitly exalts Jesus. The Bible describes God as highly exalting Jesus, giving him a name above every other name, and declaring that every knee will bow to Jesus and every tongue confess that he is Lord. This exaltation is seen as a reward for his humility and obedience, including his death on the cross.

was said to have been with God the Father at the beginning ...

AI Overview
Learn more
Yes, the Bible claims Jesus was with God before the world began. Specifically, John 1:1-4 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.". This passage describes Jesus as the "Word," who existed with God from the beginning and was instrumental in creation.

and involved with God the Father in the creation of all things.

AI Overview
Learn more
Yes, Christian theology generally affirms that Jesus was intimately involved with God in the creation of all things. He is often referred to as the Logos or the "Word," through whom all things were made. Westmont College explains that as God's agent in creation, Jesus, pre-incarnate Christ, was the Creator of all that exists. Christian Standard Bible notes that Jesus's position as "firstborn" shows his superiority over creation, and his involvement in its creation.

Concerning John 1:1, "the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

When the creation began, it was "Elohim", the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who created the heaven and the earth. It was the Father who sent his Son, known as the Word of God and the Holy Spirit, the 3ed person of the Trinity. The Word spoke the creation into existence, and Genesis 1:2, "The Spirit of God moved (hovered over) the face of the waters."

Job 26:13, "By his Spirit he has garnished the heavens;" In my three oldest King James Bibles, 1804, 1824, and 1836, Spirit is in upper case. In the new additions, it is found in lower case.

Psalms 33:6, "By the word of the LORD (Jesus) were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth."

Isaiah 40:26, "Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who has created these things, that brings out their host by number: he called them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power:"

Jeremiah 51:15, "He (Jesus, the Word of God) has made the earth by his power, he has established the world by his wisdom, and has stretched out the heavens by his understanding."

Zechariah 12:1, "the LORD (Jesus), which stretches forth the heavens, and lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him."

Acts 14:15, "God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:"

Romans 1:20, "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse:"

Colossians 1:16, "For by him (Jehovah in the O.T. and Jesus in the new) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible,"

Hebrews 1:10, "Thou LORD (Jesus), in the beginning has laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:"

John 1:3, "All things were made by him (Jesus); and without him was not anything made that was made."

[historia]

And all who have seen the Greek at John 1:1 knows The Word was called a different Greek word than the true God was called Why? God=Theon to the true God-Theos= god to the Word. Proof 2Cor 4:4 has the same 2 Greek words-Theon= God, Theos= god.

This is simply confused. Theos and theon are the same word: theos is simply the nominative form, while theon is the accusative.

In Greek, nouns take on different endings depending on how they are used in a sentence. So, whether 'God' is the subject (theos), the direct object (theon), or the indirect object (theo) of a sentence, determines which ending the word gets. If it's possessive ('of God'), it gets yet a different ending, theou, which is how it appears at the end of 2 Cor. 4:4 -- rather than theon, as you mistakenly claimed.

But these are all the same word, just in different grammatical cases.

[servant1]

[Replying to Capbook in post #4]


I asked in bing search--Which is correct for the Hebrew word at Prov 8:22, possessed or produced--Possessed( created) came up just like i show in this post.

[servant1]

[Replying to marke in post #5]


Yes Jesus is Gods master worker-Prov 8:30= the one who was beside God during the creation process-- Only Jehovah God had the power and wisdom to create anything. He did it through Jesus. Jesus gives God =HE-100% credit-Prov 8:27-28 for creating.
The problem is many of the religions say Both Jehovah and Jesus created things because of the US at Gen 1:26--But verse 27 is clear-HE-not we created.

[servant1]

[Replying to historia in post #7]


John 1:1-2 Cor 4:4--both get translated the same-So either satan is God( we know he is not) or the Word is god= 100% correct.