The so-called Orthodox Christian apologetic should be reaffirming and defending his/her beliefs and faith to others by arguing for a doctrine(s) with a Father centric message(s) of hope and salvation rather than wrapped neatly in a Christocentric message(s). If not understood and believed that scripture reaffirms a Father-to-Son relationship first, then even the most simple and common Christocentric message eventually unravels and becomes chaotic and confused. This is my premise and personal belief.
As one source puts it...Albert Emanuel 2007...
"The Bible is Father-Centric, not Christocentric. The entire bible revolves around the central role of God the Father in the plan of salvation. God the Father is the God of Israel, the God of Jesus, and the God of Christians. It was God the Father who sent His Son, sacrificed His Son, and resurrected His Son. The Bible is primarily about God the Father and secondarily about Christ the Son. The biblical emphasis is upon God the Father. Jesus constantly and continuously emphasized God the Father. The Lord's prayer is entirely about God the Father. The kingdom and the power and the glory belong to God the Father. The kingdom of God is the kingdom of God the Father, not the kingdom of Christ. The time has come for the theological restoration of God the Father to His rightful place as the one ultimate and absolute God of Gods....."
What about it? Can you see the bright light shining in this topic?
The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric
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Re: The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric
Post #21You don't speak Latin but you used the Latin name of the Tetragrammaton. I believe that is inconsistency.servant1 wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 1:19 pm [Replying to Capbook in post #18]
We don't speak Latin. Or Hebrew, or Greek, Our translations are not in Latin, Hebrew or Greek, they are written in English. Jehovah is the true living God.
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Post #22[Replying to Capbook in post #21]
The latin form is OK. He is Jehovah-- Jesus is the latin form of his name, you have no problem with that. Maybe they both prefer the latin form.
The latin form is OK. He is Jehovah-- Jesus is the latin form of his name, you have no problem with that. Maybe they both prefer the latin form.
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Post #23So, does it mean you admit your inconsistencies?servant1 wrote: ↑Thu May 08, 2025 1:43 pm [Replying to Capbook in post #21]
The latin form is OK. He is Jehovah-- Jesus is the latin form of his name, you have no problem with that. Maybe they both prefer the latin form.
You do not speak Latin, but you speak the Latinized.
Your translation is not Latin, but you alter the Tetragrammaton to Latin.
Do you understand that the Latinized is not English?
Below is post#20;
We don't speak Latin. Or Hebrew, or Greek, Our translations are not in Latin, Hebrew or Greek, they are written in English. Jehovah is the true living God.
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Re: The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric
Post #24It's all translated into English. Otherwise even you would not understand what the verses were saying.Capbook wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 5:49 amSo, does it mean you admit your inconsistencies?servant1 wrote: ↑Thu May 08, 2025 1:43 pm [Replying to Capbook in post #21]
The latin form is OK. He is Jehovah-- Jesus is the latin form of his name, you have no problem with that. Maybe they both prefer the latin form.
You do not speak Latin, but you speak the Latinized.
Your translation is not Latin, but you alter the Tetragrammaton to Latin.
Do you understand that the Latinized is not English?
Below is post#20;
We don't speak Latin. Or Hebrew, or Greek, Our translations are not in Latin, Hebrew or Greek, they are written in English. Jehovah is the true living God.
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Re: The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric
Post #25[Replying to Capbook in post #23]
Latin is a whole language. I speak a couple names, thus can not speak or read the language itself. Does this clear the matter up for you?
Latin is a whole language. I speak a couple names, thus can not speak or read the language itself. Does this clear the matter up for you?
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Post #26I mean the Latin word of the Tetragrammaton.servant1 wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 1:39 pm [Replying to Capbook in post #23]
Latin is a whole language. I speak a couple names, thus can not speak or read the language itself. Does this clear the matter up for you?
You speak a couple names, do that mean the Latinized or the original Tetragrammaton?
So, you abandon your statement below now?
Below is post#20;
We don't speak Latin. Or Hebrew, or Greek, Our translations are not in Latin, Hebrew or Greek, they are written in English. Jehovah is the true living God.
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Re: The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric
Post #27So, you do mean the Latinized is English?onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 1:24 pmIt's all translated into English. Otherwise even you would not understand what the verses were saying.Capbook wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 5:49 amSo, does it mean you admit your inconsistencies?servant1 wrote: ↑Thu May 08, 2025 1:43 pm [Replying to Capbook in post #21]
The latin form is OK. He is Jehovah-- Jesus is the latin form of his name, you have no problem with that. Maybe they both prefer the latin form.
You do not speak Latin, but you speak the Latinized.
Your translation is not Latin, but you alter the Tetragrammaton to Latin.
Do you understand that the Latinized is not English?
Below is post#20;
We don't speak Latin. Or Hebrew, or Greek, Our translations are not in Latin, Hebrew or Greek, they are written in English. Jehovah is the true living God.
Is it just the same when the teacher asked a student.
"What is the color of the blue sky? Student answered, white."
You will sound like that then.
Where Latin is a language and English a different language.