Trumpism and Inerrancy??

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Trumpism and Inerrancy??

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It doesn't seem like this subforum is used much, based on the dates of more recent activity.

I want to explore a possible relationship between Trumpism (and Trumpists) and the theory of biblical inerrancy. Has the latter paved the way for the former?

Inerrancy maintains that every indicative in the bible is true and at face value. So if the bible says the world was created in six days, then it was. If science tells us it is not, then true faith consists in siding with the bible no matter the evidence against it. Indeed, the more wrong the bible appears to be, the greater value is our faith by doubling, tripling, quadrupling, down.

We see a similar pattern in the ranks of trumpists--the more insane trump appears to be, the dumber the things he says (stop hurricanes with nuclear missiles) the more fervent trumpsters become in their near religious loyalty to the man.

Is there a logical (or historical) relation?

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[Replying to placebofactor in post #12]
Most of today's scholars are a joke, two and three-year college kids who study languages and think they know it all.
Meet a couple of my "two and three-year college kid" sources:

One is Rabbi Bentzion Kravitz----

"Kravitz earned his degree from the Rabbinical College of America, became a rabbi and started Jews for Judaism, which works to prevent Jews from leaving their religion and instead connect or reconnect with it."
https://jewishjournal.com/community/345 ... o-judaism/

Another is Julius Ciss----
https://jewsforjudaism.org/staff/julius-ciss

I have put all my trust in the scholars of the K.J.B., and men like Erasmus, and the tens of thousands of other theologians and linguists who agree with the words and punctuation marks found in the K.J.B. Who am I to disagree?
Christian editors rearranged the order of the books in the Jewish Bible to make it look like the Malachi threat to "smite the earth with a curse" was the last word before Jesus (the Jewish Bible is divided into the Torah, the Prophets and the Writings, so it actually ends with II Chronicles). How trustworthy was that?
"There is more room for a god in science than there is for no god in religious faith."
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Athetotheist wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:37 pm [Replying to placebofactor in post #12]
Most of today's scholars are a joke, two and three-year college kids who study languages and think they know it all.
Meet a couple of my "two and three-year college kid" sources:

One is Rabbi Bentzion Kravitz----

"Kravitz earned his degree from the Rabbinical College of America, became a rabbi and started Jews for Judaism, which works to prevent Jews from leaving their religion and instead connect or reconnect with it."
https://jewishjournal.com/community/345 ... o-judaism/

Another is Julius Ciss----
https://jewsforjudaism.org/staff/julius-ciss

I said, "Most, not All!"

I have put all my trust in the scholars of the K.J.B., and men like Erasmus, and the tens of thousands of other theologians and linguists who agree with the words and punctuation marks found in the K.J.B. Who am I to disagree?
Christian editors rearranged the order of the books in the Jewish Bible to make it look like the Malachi threat to "smite the earth with a curse" was the last word before Jesus (the Jewish Bible is divided into the Torah, the Prophets and the Writings, so it actually ends with II Chronicles). How trustworthy was that?
I agree with what you say, but where do we meet? Where do the crossroads intersect? If a Jew or anyone else is a scholar, a master of the first 5 books of the Bible, but rejects the rest of the Old Testament, he hasn't gone far enough. And if you take a Rabbi or anyone else and he masters the Old Testament right up to the end of Malachi, but rejects the New, he hasn't gone far enough. The New and Old Testaments are the oracles of God put in the hands of Jewish men who finished the story. "All Scripture is God breathed." As for me, the story begins in Genesis 1:1 and ends in Revelation 22:21. By the way, the book of Daniel is my favorite book, he was a great prophet of God, faithful to the end, and inspiring!

Personally, I love the Jews, and the history that has followed them from Abraham to this very day. Thanks for your comments, Interesting!

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