1. Jehovah’s Witnesses say Jesus was “a god.” This is how the NWT reads (John 1:1).
Do JW’s believe Jesus was a true or false god?
2. JW’s say Jesus is a created being.
When was Jesus (capital or lower case g) created?
I look forward to your responses to one or both questions.
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Post #781Since Jesus did not receive the right to be the Father of Jesus how could he have received 100%?
Since Jeuss did not recieve the right to give everything to Jesus how could he have received 100%?
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Post #782Are those statements Biblical or you just made it up?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:35 amSince Jesus did not receive the right to be the Father of Jesus how could he have received 100%?
Since Jeuss did not recieve the right to give everything to Jesus how could he have received 100%?
Any verse that proves Jesus contention or right to be the Father of Jesus?
Can you quote a verse also that Jesus did not received the right to have all what the Father has? Based on the verse quoted John 16:15?
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Post #783They are as biblical as your mention of percentages.
Can you quote a verse that says Jesus was given the right to be the Father of Jesus?
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Post #784Now, my point is Biblical, can you post your verse also?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:39 pmThey are as biblical as your mention of percentages.
Can you quote a verse that says Jesus was given the right to be the Father of Jesus?
John 16:15
15 "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said, that He takes of Mine, and will disclose it to you.
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Post #785You haven't made a point you've just quoted a scripture ; what is your point?
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Post #786The content of the text is the point, Jesus had all what the Father had.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:21 amYou haven't made a point you've just quoted a scripture ; what is your point?
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Post #787Capbook wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:35 amThe content of the text is the point, Jesus had all what the Father had.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:21 amYou haven't made a point you've just quoted a scripture ; what is your point?
I agree, you just seem to misunderstand what the word "all" means.
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Post #788We can consult Bible lexicons, from Thayer, Mounce, and Louw and Nida Geek-English Lexicon of the New Testament as what these defined "all", in Greek "πᾶς pas" as the whole, all things, everything, entire, a totality of kinds or sorts - 'every kind of, all sorts of.'JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:41 amCapbook wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:35 amThe content of the text is the point, Jesus had all what the Father had.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:21 amYou haven't made a point you've just quoted a scripture ; what is your point?
I agree, you just seem to misunderstand what the word "all" means.
I think nothing is left when it speaks of all.
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πᾶς pas
Thayer Definition:
1) individually
1a) each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything.
G3956 (Mounce)
πᾶς pas
1,243x: all; in the sg. the whole, entire,
NT:3956
pas: a totality of kinds or sorts - 'every kind of, all sorts of.'
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)
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Post #789You still haven't said what your point is.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:09 amWe can consult Bible lexicons, from Thayer, Mounce, and Louw and Nida Geek-English Lexicon of the New Testament as what these defined "all", in Greek "πᾶς pas" as the whole, all things, everything, entire, a totality of kinds or sorts - 'every kind of, all sorts of.'JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:41 amCapbook wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:35 amThe content of the text is the point, Jesus had all what the Father had.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:21 amYou haven't made a point you've just quoted a scripture ; what is your point?
I agree, you just seem to misunderstand what the word "all" means.
I think nothing is left when it speaks of all.
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πᾶς pas
Thayer Definition:
1) individually
1a) each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything.
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πᾶς pas
1,243x: all; in the sg. the whole, entire,
NT:3956
pas: a totality of kinds or sorts - 'every kind of, all sorts of.'
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)
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Post #790So? Onewithim is right, you copy paste from Lexicon but you still havent said what that means for our discusdion. What do you think that means ? (and don't bother with your percentages because there are no percentages in scripture).Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:09 am
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πᾶς pas
Thayer Definition:
1) individually
1a) each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything.
G3956 (Mounce)
πᾶς pas
1,243x: all; in the sg. the whole, entire,
NT:3956
pas: a totality of kinds or sorts - 'every kind of, all sorts of.'
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)
Do you have a scripture which says Jehovah had "nothing left" after he gave Jesus "all" or did you just make that bit up?
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