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Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?

Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment

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rstrats wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:29 am [Replying to Capbook in post #299]

Any particular reason for posting the whole previous post when you were only responding to its last sentence?
It is a response to onewithhim when he quote Heb 8:13, Post#298.

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Capbook wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:51 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:48 pm
Capbook wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:41 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:43 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:16 pm
Capbook wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 2:42 pm
slowrider wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:16 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:12 pm
slowrider wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 4:10 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 4:06 pm

Is not keeping the Sabbath for the people of God obedience to you? (Heb 4:9)
To begin with everyone on earth belongs to God.
Therefore everyone is His people.

And why does it matter to you if anyone does not keep the Sabbath?

And if the Holy Ghost commanded me to keep the Sabbath then
of course doing it would be obedience.
As the word of God says, there remains a Sabbath keeping for the people of God, you still wait for the Holy Ghost? (Heb 4:9)

Heb 4:9 There remains, therefore, a Sabbath rest for the people of God,
Did God tell you this Himself or did you just assume something written by another man
that to which they said God said to them was also for you to take it as if God said it to you too?
As we consider the Bible as the word of God, the text would be as, God said it to His believers, Whom He called God's people. (Heb 4:9)
I just hope and pray that all would come to be a member to what God called His people.
Time will come that all flesh shall come to worship God on the Lord's day.

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD
Jesus is the Lord also of the Sabbath, as Sabbath as "Lord's day".

Mrk 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mrk 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
That's right, and Jesus abolished the Sabbath when he died on the 'cross.' The Mosaic Law was made obsolete. (Hebrews 8:13)
Context talked about the Levitical Priesthood law.
Where is that stated? The Mosaic Law was just for the Levitical priests? Please explain why the Mosaic Law was not for everyone. Teach me as if I'm a child. Make it simple.

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onewithhim wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:28 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:51 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:48 pm
Capbook wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:41 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:43 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:16 pm
Capbook wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 2:42 pm
slowrider wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:16 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:12 pm
slowrider wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 4:10 pm To begin with everyone on earth belongs to God.
Therefore everyone is His people.

And why does it matter to you if anyone does not keep the Sabbath?

And if the Holy Ghost commanded me to keep the Sabbath then
of course doing it would be obedience.
As the word of God says, there remains a Sabbath keeping for the people of God, you still wait for the Holy Ghost? (Heb 4:9)

Heb 4:9 There remains, therefore, a Sabbath rest for the people of God,
Did God tell you this Himself or did you just assume something written by another man
that to which they said God said to them was also for you to take it as if God said it to you too?
As we consider the Bible as the word of God, the text would be as, God said it to His believers, Whom He called God's people. (Heb 4:9)
I just hope and pray that all would come to be a member to what God called His people.
Time will come that all flesh shall come to worship God on the Lord's day.

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD
Jesus is the Lord also of the Sabbath, as Sabbath as "Lord's day".

Mrk 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mrk 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
That's right, and Jesus abolished the Sabbath when he died on the 'cross.' The Mosaic Law was made obsolete. (Hebrews 8:13)
Context talked about the Levitical Priesthood law.
Where is that stated? The Mosaic Law was just for the Levitical priests? Please explain why the Mosaic Law was not for everyone. Teach me as if I'm a child. Make it simple.
Sorry I misread your post. By context, the law was not changed, what was changed was the placement. From the tablets of stone, God will put His laws into our minds and write in our hearts, that is if we believe that He is our God, with that we will be His people.

Heb 8:5-10
5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
KJV
2 Cor 3:3
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
KJV

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Capbook wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:16 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:28 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:51 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:48 pm
Capbook wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:41 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:43 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:16 pm
Capbook wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 2:42 pm
slowrider wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:16 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:12 pm

As the word of God says, there remains a Sabbath keeping for the people of God, you still wait for the Holy Ghost? (Heb 4:9)

Heb 4:9 There remains, therefore, a Sabbath rest for the people of God,
Did God tell you this Himself or did you just assume something written by another man
that to which they said God said to them was also for you to take it as if God said it to you too?
As we consider the Bible as the word of God, the text would be as, God said it to His believers, Whom He called God's people. (Heb 4:9)
I just hope and pray that all would come to be a member to what God called His people.
Time will come that all flesh shall come to worship God on the Lord's day.

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD
Jesus is the Lord also of the Sabbath, as Sabbath as "Lord's day".

Mrk 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mrk 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
That's right, and Jesus abolished the Sabbath when he died on the 'cross.' The Mosaic Law was made obsolete. (Hebrews 8:13)
Context talked about the Levitical Priesthood law.
Where is that stated? The Mosaic Law was just for the Levitical priests? Please explain why the Mosaic Law was not for everyone. Teach me as if I'm a child. Make it simple.
Sorry I misread your post. By context, the law was not changed, what was changed was the placement. From the tablets of stone, God will put His laws into our minds and write in our hearts, that is if we believe that He is our God, with that we will be His people.

Heb 8:5-10
5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
KJV
2 Cor 3:3
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
KJV
That is a point that I have been trying to make as well. :)

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onewithhim wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:12 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:16 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:28 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:51 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 7:48 pm
Capbook wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:41 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:43 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:16 pm
Capbook wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 2:42 pm
slowrider wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:16 am Did God tell you this Himself or did you just assume something written by another man
that to which they said God said to them was also for you to take it as if God said it to you too?
As we consider the Bible as the word of God, the text would be as, God said it to His believers, Whom He called God's people. (Heb 4:9)
I just hope and pray that all would come to be a member to what God called His people.
Time will come that all flesh shall come to worship God on the Lord's day.

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD
Jesus is the Lord also of the Sabbath, as Sabbath as "Lord's day".

Mrk 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mrk 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
That's right, and Jesus abolished the Sabbath when he died on the 'cross.' The Mosaic Law was made obsolete. (Hebrews 8:13)
Context talked about the Levitical Priesthood law.
Where is that stated? The Mosaic Law was just for the Levitical priests? Please explain why the Mosaic Law was not for everyone. Teach me as if I'm a child. Make it simple.
Sorry I misread your post. By context, the law was not changed, what was changed was the placement. From the tablets of stone, God will put His laws into our minds and write in our hearts, that is if we believe that He is our God, with that we will be His people.

Heb 8:5-10
5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
KJV
2 Cor 3:3
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
KJV
That is a point that I have been trying to make as well. :)
Yes, only the placement of the law was changed not the law itself.

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[quote=Capbook

It is a response to onewithhim when he quote Heb 8:13, Post#298.
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But why did you have to post his whole post when you were only addressing his last sentence?

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rstrats wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:41 am [quote=Capbook

It is a response to onewithhim when he quote Heb 8:13, Post#298.
But why did you have to post his whole post when you were only addressing his last sentence?
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Haven't you noticed, that's always the pattern/flow of our discussion with onewithhim, maybe for easy reading of the previous exchanges.

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[Replying to Capbook in post #307]

The gracious Creator, after the six days of Creation, rested on the seventh day and instituted the Sabbath for all
people as a memorial of Creation. The fourth commandment of God’s unchangeable law requires the observance
of this seventh-day Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice
of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a day of delightful communion with God and one another. God put His Laws in our mind and write them in our hearts, and said that He will be our God, and we shall be His people.(Heb 8:10)

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Capbook wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:41 am
onewithhim wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:12 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:16 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:28 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:51 am

Context talked about the Levitical Priesthood law.
Where is that stated? The Mosaic Law was just for the Levitical priests? Please explain why the Mosaic Law was not for everyone. Teach me as if I'm a child. Make it simple.
Sorry I misread your post. By context, the law was not changed, what was changed was the placement. From the tablets of stone, God will put His laws into our minds and write in our hearts, that is if we believe that He is our God, with that we will be His people.

Heb 8:5-10
5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
KJV
2 Cor 3:3
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
KJV
That is a point that I have been trying to make as well. :)
Yes, only the placement of the law was changed not the law itself.
Do you offer sacrifices of bulls or sheep? Do you wear clothing with a blue fringe?

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onewithhim wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:51 pm
Capbook wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:41 am
onewithhim wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:12 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:16 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:28 am
Where is that stated? The Mosaic Law was just for the Levitical priests? Please explain why the Mosaic Law was not for everyone. Teach me as if I'm a child. Make it simple.
Sorry I misread your post. By context, the law was not changed, what was changed was the placement. From the tablets of stone, God will put His laws into our minds and write in our hearts, that is if we believe that He is our God, with that we will be His people.

Heb 8:5-10
5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
KJV
2 Cor 3:3
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
KJV
That is a point that I have been trying to make as well. :)
Yes, only the placement of the law was changed not the law itself.
Do you offer sacrifices of bulls or sheep? Do you wear clothing with a blue fringe?
No, Jesus ultimate sacrifice by shedding His blood on Calvary changed everything. We don't need to offer sacrifices of clean animals.
Jesus' blood is to provide atonement and forgiveness of our sins, reconcile us with the Father, and establish a new covenant of grace and relationship.

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