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Is it one, or is it tw?

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1 Peter 1:1, “Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ,”
How many offices does Peter hold?

Isaiah 45:21, "A just God and a Savior; there is none beside me.”
Is the reference to one or two people?

Titus 2:13, “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ: who gave himself to us”
How many individuals was Paul referring to when he said, “the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ:”

Jehovah’s Witnesses claim it’s both the Father and Son who are going to appear, or is Jesus being referred to as both God and Savior as in Isaiah 45:21?

John 20:27-28, Jesus said to Thomas, “Reach hither your finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.”

How many people was Thomas referring to when he said, “My Lord and my God?” The Witnesses calm Thomas is referring to both the Father and Jesus, is that true?

Acts 2:9, “Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites,”
How many nations are mentioned?

Matthew 28:19, “Go you therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost.”
How many individuals are mentioned, two or three? Witnesses claim it’s two, not three.

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marke wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:32 amJesus is the Almighty spoken of in Revelation 1:

18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.[/b]
Neither the word "Almighty" nor the name "Jesus" are mentioned in the scripture so your comment can be dismissed as your opinion. I don't happen to agree with your opinion.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:17 am
marke wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:32 amJesus is the Almighty spoken of in Revelation 1:

18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.[/b]
Neither the word "Almighty" nor the name "Jesus" are mentioned in the scripture so your comment can be dismissed as your opinion. I don't happen to agree with your opinion.
Jesus name does not have to be tied in with the title of the Almighty.

Moses saw and spoke to the Almighty in Genesis 17:1. If no man has seen the Father, this must have been Jesus Moses saw.

Genesis 35:9-11, God appeared to Jacob, And in Verse 11, "God said unto him, I am God Almighty:" Again, if no man has seen the Father, this must have been Jesus Moses saw.

Genesis 48:3, "Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luzin" Jacob verifies seeing and speaking to the Almighty.

Exodus 6:3, The LORD said, "I appeared unto Abraham, and unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them." So here we have Jehovah himself verifying his appearance to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Numbers 24:4, Balaam saw the vision of the Almighty.

Revelation 1:8, Jesus calls himself the Almighty.

Revelation 15, the angels sing the song of the Lamb saying, Great and marvelous are thy works, Lord God Almighty, just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints."

Revelation 16:5-6, are speaking to the Lord (Kurios) Verse 6, they speak of his shed blood: In verse 7, they call him "Lord god Almighty."

Verse 14 talks about "the day of God Almighty,"

In Revelation, both the Father and the Lamb are referred to as Lord God Almighty."

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placebofactor wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:45 am Jesus name does not have to be tied in with the title of the Almighty.

....in your opinion. If you claim Jesus is the Almighty, I will have to read that explicitly in scripture.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:17 am
marke wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:32 amJesus is the Almighty spoken of in Revelation 1:

18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.[/b]
Neither the word "Almighty" nor the name "Jesus" are mentioned in the scripture so your comment can be dismissed as your opinion. I don't happen to agree with your opinion.
Marke: The phrase "The Almighty" is found in the KJV more than 40 times.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:17 am
marke wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:32 amJesus is the Almighty spoken of in Revelation 1:

18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.[/b]
Neither the word "Almighty" nor the name "Jesus" are mentioned in the scripture so your comment can be dismissed as your opinion. I don't happen to agree with your opinion.
Marke: The phrase "The Almighty" is found in the KJV more than 40 times.

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marke wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:34 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:17 am
marke wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:32 amJesus is the Almighty spoken of in Revelation 1:

18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.[/b]
Neither the word "Almighty" nor the name "Jesus" are mentioned in the scripture so your comment can be dismissed as your opinion. I don't happen to agree with your opinion.
Marke: The phrase "The Almighty" is found in the KJV more than 40 times.
Is Revelation 1v18 one of them?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:16 pm
placebofactor wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:45 am Jesus name does not have to be tied in with the title of the Almighty.

....in your opinion. If you claim Jesus is the Almighty, I will have to read that explicitly in scripture.

First, you claim no one has ever seen the Father, then when I prove that men in the O.T. saw God, who else do you think they saw? It was the Son of God before he was born. Even I can figure that out, his name was Jehovah before it was Jesus' also known as the Almighty. Open your eyes!

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placebofactor wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:31 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:16 pm
placebofactor wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:45 am Jesus name does not have to be tied in with the title of the Almighty.

....in your opinion. If you claim Jesus is the Almighty, I will have to read that explicitly in scripture.

First, you claim no one has ever seen the Father, then when I prove that men in the O.T. saw God, who else do you think they saw? It was the Son of God before he was born. Even I can figure that out, his name was Jehovah before it was Jesus' also known as the Almighty. Open your eyes!
What has the above got to do with your claim that Rev 1v18 identifies Jesus as Almighty God?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:13 pm
placebofactor wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:31 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:16 pm
placebofactor wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:45 am Jesus name does not have to be tied in with the title of the Almighty.

....in your opinion. If you claim Jesus is the Almighty, I will have to read that explicitly in scripture.

First, you claim no one has ever seen the Father, then when I prove that men in the O.T. saw God, who else do you think they saw? It was the Son of God before he was born. Even I can figure that out, his name was Jehovah before it was Jesus' also known as the Almighty. Open your eyes!
What has the above got to do with your claim that Rev 1v18 identifies Jesus as Almighty God?
It's Revelation 1:8, not 18.

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placebofactor wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:33 pm
It's Revelation 1:8, not 18.
I was referring to 1v18 (my conversation with Mark).
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