The Dividic Covenant

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The following is further evidence that the LORD is not finished with Israel, their land, their house, and their throne.

The Covenant Jehovah made with David forms the basis for the future earthly Kingdom of the Messiah. The covenant was given to Nathan the Prophet in Jerusalem to give to David. The Covenant provides a King for the Kingdom. Four things were promised to David: Land, a Son, a House, and a Throne.

The Covenant looks forward to a future time when the Jews would be “planted” permanently and securely in the land of Israel, never again to be driven out. The Covenant was to be fulfilled through King Solomon, David’s son. Jehovah promised to preserve Solomon’s throne (representing royal authority) forever, but not Solomon’s seed.

Concerning Solomon’s seed, Mary, Jesus’ mother was not of Solomon’s lineage, she descended from Nathan, son of David. So, the Messianic bloodline bypassed Solomon.

Regarding Solomon’s throne, Joseph, Mary’s husband, but not Jesus' biological father descended from Solomon. It was through Joseph that the royal authority of the throne legally passed to the Lord Jesus. The glitch in King Solomon’s bloodline is found in Jeremiah. He wrote that no descendant of the genealogical line of David, Solomon, and Jeconiah also called Jehoiakin would ever sit on David’s throne.

Jeremiah 22:24-30 tells the story. Verse 24, the LORD said to King Jehoiakim, “I will pluck thee thence; and give thee into the hand of them that seek your life Verse 26, “I will cast you out.”

So Jeconiah’s lineage was now forbidden, therefore no physical descendant of Joseph could be the Messiah. But Nathan’s lineage was not cursed. So, the virgin birth was required not only to assure the sinless nature of the Lord Jesus but also to fulfill the terms of the Covenant.

Jesus’ legal right to the throne came through Joseph. Jesus' blood right came through Mary. So, Jesus now had the authority to rule the kingdom.

Luke 1:31-32, “Behold, you (Mary) shall conceive in your womb, and bring forth a son, and shall call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest (Most High): and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David.”

The LORD’s promise to David: Psalm 132:11, “The LORD has sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; of the fruit of your body will I set upon thy throne.” Not because of David’s merits, but because of God’s faithfulness is the Covenant fulfilled.

Psalms 89:34, the LORD said, “My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David. His seed shall endure, and his throne as the sun before me.”

Your thoughts:

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The Davidic covenant promised that the Messiah would be born from King Davids royal family line and that this one would have an everlasting kingdom. Jesus proved to be that Messiah and his kingdom is the GOVERNMENT he (Jesus) taught his followers to pray for ..

MATTHEW 6:9

You kingdom come, your kingdom will be done on earth

This kingdom has NOTHING to do with the modern day political State of Israel. And while Jesus did promise to share his kingdom with others, it was not to be based on a person's race or generic heritage, but rather on faith in him.

To learn more please go to other posts related to...

GOD'S KINGDOM, MILLENIAL RULE and ...1914

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Was JESUS a descendant of the exiled Jehoiachin (Jeconiah, or Coniah) ?

Yes. Both Joseph and Mary's genealogy can be traced back to King David through Jehoiachin. (Matthew and Luke note Jesus to have been a descendant of Zerubbabel, grandson of Jehoiachin*) .

1 CHRONICLES 3:17-19

17 The sons of Jeconiah the prisoner were Shealtiel, 18 Mal·chiʹram, Pedaiah, She·nazʹzar, Jek·a·miʹah, Hoshʹa·ma, and Ned·a·biʹah. 19 The sons of Pe·daiʹah were Zerubba·bel and Shimʹe·i; and the sons of Ze·rubʹba·bel were Me·shulʹlam and Han·a·niʹah (and She·loʹmith was their sister)

* Pedaiah ( one of Jehoiachin's seven sons) was evidently Zerubbabel’s natural father (see 1 Chronicles 3:19) . The gospel writers list Zerubbabel as son of Shealtiel ( another of Jehoiachin's sons) possibly because he (Zerubbabel) was adopted or fathered in brother-in-law marriage.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

Why are there apparent discrepencies in the geneology of Jesus?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 76#p832376

How did Matthew count his geneological listings?
viewtopic.php?p=870155#p870155

How many generations? 41 or 42? (scroll down a little)
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 29#p808429

Did Luke actually write the words Joseph "son of" Heli?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 38#p808438

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JEREMIAH 22:30

This is what Jehovah says: ‘Write down this man Jehoiachin (Jeconiah, or Coniah) ] as childless, as a man who will not have any success during his lifetime, for none of his descendants will succeed In sitting on David’s throne and ruling again in Judah. This decree barred any descendant of Jehoiachin from ever ruling upon David’s throne in Judah

Does Jeremiah 22 not say Jehoiachin would be childless?

No, it says he will be written down, as in considered as "childless". Jehoiachin was the last of the Judean kings, never again did Israel have an independent nation with its own King ; for all intents and purposes, Jehoiachin was "childless".

DOES JEREMIAH 22:30 NOT DISQUALIFY THE MESSIAH FROM BEING A DESCENDANT OF JEHOIACHIN?

No, Jeremiah 22 barred a descendants of Jehoiachin from {quote} sitting on David’s throne and ruling again in Judah , it does not say the Messianic promises cannot pass through Jehoiachin.

If the Messiah not sit on David's throne and rule from Judah what does he do?

The Messiah would not sit on David' s throne, he would be given David's throne, meaning he would be given the right to all the authority David had (and more). He would not rule from Judah (Jerusalem) he would rule from heaven.

JW



What are some features of the Davidic covenant ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 51#p782251

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The Davidic covenant promised that the Messiah would be born from King Davids royal family line and that this one would have an everlasting kingdom. Jesus proved to be that Messiah and his kingdom is the GOVERNMENT he (Jesus) taught his followers to pray for ..

MATTHEW 6:9

You kingdom come, your kingdom will be done on earth

This kingdom has NOTHING to do with the modern day political State of Israel. And while Jesus did promise to share his kingdom with others, it was not to be based on a person's race or generic heritage, but rather on faith in him.

I have no idea how anyone can look at modern-day Israel, and the 7 million Jews who live there today, then compare it with prophecy, and claim, "This kingdom has nothing to do with modern day political State of Israel. All you're doing is mouthing the words of the Watchtower, and I'm not interested!

To learn more please go to other posts related to...

GOD'S KINGDOM, MILLENIAL RULE and ...1914

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The following is further evidence that the LORD is not finished with Israel, their land, their house, and their throne.

The Covenant Jehovah made with David forms the basis for the future earthly Kingdom of the Messiah. The covenant was given to Nathan the Prophet in Jerusalem to give to David. The Covenant provides a King for the Kingdom. Four things were promised to David: Land, a Son, a House, and a Throne.

The Covenant looks forward to a future time when the Jews would be “planted” permanently and securely in the land of Israel, never again to be driven out. The Covenant was to be fulfilled through King Solomon, David’s son. Jehovah promised to preserve Solomon’s throne (representing royal authority) forever, but not Solomon’s seed.

Concerning Solomon’s seed, Mary, Jesus’ mother was not of Solomon’s lineage, she descended from Nathan, son of David. So, the Messianic bloodline bypassed Solomon.

Regarding Solomon’s throne, Joseph, Mary’s husband, but not Jesus' biological father descended from Solomon. It was through Joseph that the royal authority of the throne legally passed to the Lord Jesus. The glitch in King Solomon’s bloodline is found in Jeremiah. He wrote that no descendant of the genealogical line of David, Solomon, and Jeconiah also called Jehoiakin would ever sit on David’s throne.

Jeremiah 22:24-30 tells the story. Verse 24, the LORD said to King Jehoiakim, “I will pluck thee thence; and give thee into the hand of them that seek your life Verse 26, “I will cast you out.”

So Jeconiah’s lineage was now forbidden, therefore no physical descendant of Joseph could be the Messiah. But Nathan’s lineage was not cursed. So, the virgin birth was required not only to assure the sinless nature of the Lord Jesus but also to fulfill the terms of the Covenant.

Jesus’ legal right to the throne came through Joseph. Jesus' blood right came through Mary. So, Jesus now had the authority to rule the kingdom.

Luke 1:31-32, “Behold, you (Mary) shall conceive in your womb, and bring forth a son, and shall call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest (Most High): and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David.”

The LORD’s promise to David: Psalm 132:11, “The LORD has sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; of the fruit of your body will I set upon thy throne.” Not because of David’s merits, but because of God’s faithfulness is the Covenant fulfilled.

Psalms 89:34, the LORD said, “My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David. His seed shall endure, and his throne as the sun before me.”

Your thoughts:

The theological position of Amillennial's who treat Revelation 20, symbolically and deny the reality of a future literal Kingdom here on earth. This teaching traced back to the writings of Augustine. Amillennialist spiritualize the Millennium, pointing to the rule of Christ over the church as its fulfillment. They suggest that the literal, earthly aspect of the Davidic Covenant was fulfilled in ancient times by King Solomon, while the eternal aspects are fulfilled by Christ's present spiritual rulership over his Church.

On the other hand, Premillennialist interpret Revelation 20 literally. We point to the future Second Coming of the Lord Jesus, and his thousand-year reign on earth, as the ultimate fulfillment of the Davidic Covenant. Jesus' earthly, political kingdom will be in Jerusalem, where the "Son of David" (Jesus Christ) will rule from the throne of his father David.

Amillennialist commit several errors of interpretation.
1. They mistakenly equate the throne of David with the throne of the Father. The Father's throne was established in eternity past, Psalms 93:1-2, "The LORD reigns, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he has girded himself: the world also established, that it cannot be (shaken.) Thy throne is established of old: you are from everlasting."

2. The Father promised his Son the throne of David, something distinct from his own throne. Revelation 3:21, Jesus said, "To him that overcomes will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne." The verse clearly shows that Jesus' throne and the throne of the Father are two distinguishable entities.

Almillennialiist over-rely on symbolism, metaphors, and spiritualization. In 59 referenced to David in the N.T., not one connects the Davidic throne with Jesus' present ministry. It's more natural to accept the prophetic Scriptures in their unstrained, literal sense unless indicated otherwise.

Amillennialist are inconsistent. Certain aspects of the Covenant have been literally fulfilled already. The Temple was built by Solomon, and the throne was not taken from Solomon during his lifetime, both literal fulfillments.
Therefore, it's entirely logical that the remainder of the Covenant will have a literal fulfillment as well.

David understood the Covenant's future promises to be literal.

2 Samuel 23:5, "Although my house be not so with God; yet he has made with me an everlasting covenant, ordered in all things and sure:" See also 1 Kings 1:30-37.

[JehovahsWitness]

The Covenant Jehovah made with David forms the basis for the future earthly Kingdom of the Messiah.

Will Jesus Messianic kingdom rule from the earth?

No. The center of this future government will not be in any location on the planet. Jesus was quite explicit his kingdom is no part of this world. He spoke of "The kingdom of the heavens". Jesus' eternal place is at his Fathers right hand side in heaven; he will will not rule from Washington, London Jerusalem or indeed and earthly location. Jesus will rule from heaven with 144,000 co-rulers ( see Réf 20:5).

Will Jesus governmental kingdom rule over the middle east or the present day territory of the political state of Israel?

No scripture says kingdom rule will be over the entire planet earth.

PSALM Psalm 72:8 - KJV.

He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, And from the river unto the ends of the earth

There Will be one world government ruling over the global territory with no national divisions.

To learn more please go to other posts related to...

GOD'S KINGDOM, MILLENIAL RULE and ...1914

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The Covenant Jehovah made with David forms the basis for the future earthly Kingdom of the Messiah.

Will Jesus Messianic kingdom rule from the earth?

No. The center of this future government will not be in any location on the planet. Jesus was quite explicit his kingdom is no part of this world. He spoke of "The kingdom of the heavens". Jesus' eternal place is at his Fathers right hand side in heaven; he will will not rule from Washington, London Jerusalem or indeed and earthly location. Jesus will rule from heaven with 144,000 co-rulers ( see Réf 20:5).

Will Jesus governmental kingdom rule over the middle east or the present day territory of the political state of Israel?

No scripture says kingdom rule will be over the entire planet earth.

PSALM Psalm 72:8 - KJV.

He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, And from the river unto the ends of the earth

There Will be one world government ruling over the global territory with no national divisions.

To learn more please go to other posts related to...

GOD'S KINGDOM, MILLENIAL RULE and ...1914

Here's where you're going to miss the boat. The church, all Christians, Jews and Gentile will be caught up to be with the Lord. 1 Corinthians 15: and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. Where will the Bride of Christ be taken?

To heaven, where Jesus has prepared a place for his Bride, John 14:2. After we are removed from this earth, those not taken will enter into a period called the Great Tribulation. When the Tribulation is over; I believe two-thirds of the world's population will be wiped out. Following that, there will be a cleanup in Jerusalem for 7 years.

Ezekiel 39:9-15. All the weapons of war will be burned with fire "for seven years." Those who died in the valley of Hamon-gog will take 7 months to bury them. The Jews will bury them, then hire others to bury the dead that remain. Verse 15, And (those passing through) if they see a man's bone, they will set up a sign by it, until the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamon-Gog.

After the land is cleansed, Jesus with his 12 apostles and those who did not receive the mark of the beast are resurrected, Revelation 20:4 they shall rule with Christ for 1000 years, on God's Holy Mountain, Mt. Moriah. What will the Jews who lived through the tribulation be doing? Zachariah tells us;

Zachariah 8:23, "In these days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations (Gentiles), even him that is a JEW, saying, we will go with you: for we have heard that God (Jesus) is with you."

And when the 1000 years is over, Satin and the two beasts of Revelation will be cast into hell and when all judgments are ended, there will be a new heaven and a new earth: Revelation 21:1

It's here, both the Father, and the Lamb will sit on one throne forever and ever. Now if you want to stick around for the time of Jacob's trouble, be my guest, but you have been told the truth. It comes from the uncorrupted King James Bible.

[JehovahsWitness]

The Covenant Jehovah made with David forms the basis for the future earthly Kingdom of the Messiah.

Will Jesus Messianic kingdom rule from the earth?

No. The center of this future government will not be in any location on the planet. Jesus was quite explicit his kingdom is no part of this world. He spoke of "The kingdom of the heavens". Jesus' eternal place is at his Fathers right hand side in heaven; he will will not rule from Washington, London Jerusalem or indeed and earthly location. Jesus will rule from heaven with 144,000 co-rulers ( see Réf 20:5).

Will Jesus governmental kingdom rule over the middle east or the present day territory of the political state of Israel?

No scripture says kingdom rule will be over the entire planet earth.

PSALM Psalm 72:8 - KJV.

He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, And from the river unto the ends of the earth

There Will be one world government ruling over the global territory with no national divisions.

To learn more please go to other posts related to...

GOD'S KINGDOM, MILLENIAL RULE and ...1914

... Jews and Gentile will be caught up to be with the Lord. 1 Corinthians 15: and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. Where will the Bride of Christ be taken?

Those scriptures refer to the resurrection of the RULERS (faithful spirit anointed Christians from various nationalities - both Jews and non-jews- being resurrected up to heaven so they can rule over the earth with Jesus ( compare Rev 20:5)

This event happened invisibly in the year 1914 when the Messianic Kingdom became fully operational.

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The Covenant Jehovah made with David forms the basis for the future earthly Kingdom of the Messiah.

Will Jesus Messianic kingdom rule from the earth?

No. The center of this future government will not be in any location on the planet. Jesus was quite explicit his kingdom is no part of this world. He spoke of "The kingdom of the heavens". Jesus' eternal place is at his Fathers right hand side in heaven; he will will not rule from Washington, London Jerusalem or indeed and earthly location. Jesus will rule from heaven with 144,000 co-rulers ( see Réf 20:5).

Will Jesus governmental kingdom rule over the middle east or the present day territory of the political state of Israel?

No scripture says kingdom rule will be over the entire planet earth.

PSALM Psalm 72:8 - KJV.

He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, And from the river unto the ends of the earth

There Will be one world government ruling over the global territory with no national divisions.

To learn more please go to other posts related to...

GOD'S KINGDOM, MILLENIAL RULE and ...1914

... Jews and Gentile will be caught up to be with the Lord. 1 Corinthians 15: and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. Where will the Bride of Christ be taken?

Those scriptures refer to the resurrection of the RULERS (faithful spirit anointed Christians from various nationalities - both Jews and non-jews- being resurrected up to heaven so they can rule over the earth with Jesus ( compare Rev 20:5)

This event happened invisibly in the year 1914 when the Messianic Kingdom became fully operational.

Genesis 49:10, "The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be."

Israel will one day be a great nation; a people led by their Messiah. Their history has been cared for and their history carefully recorded. Israel has endured to this day in 2025 because of their inheritance, an inheritance promised to them by the Lord God Almighty. They have been few in number; scattered throughout the earth, often called "the Wandering Jews," persecuted, yet they have maintained their existence because of a remnant who have and continue to obey God.

I have no idea how anyone can look at the history of the Jews and the land, examine the promises made to them by Jehovah, and yet deny what is. The only friend Israel has in the world today is Christians. The political and religious elite fight against them continually, no peace for them until the return of Jesus Christ.