The book of Hebrews was written before the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 A.D. When Hebrews was written, only the Jews were acquainted with the Mosaic law, their traditions, and the oral law.
The Book of Hebrews was written to the Jews, had it been written to the Gentiles, not one in ten thousand could have comprehended it because of their unfamiliarity with the Jewish system.
Jesus of Nazareth is the True God: To convince the Jews, of the truth of this proposition, the writer of the book uses three arguments:
1. Christ is superior to the angels.
2. He is superior to Moses.
3. He is superior to Aaron.
Isaiah 52:13, “Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled (lifted up), and be very high.”
Christ: King of the Jews, elevated above Abraham, Moses; and the angels, all fulfilled in the Jewish Messiah. And because Christ was greater than these, he must be greater than every created being. If understood in this light, according to Jewish phraseology, Jesus is an uncreated Being, infinitely greater than all others, whether earthly or heavenly. For as the Jews allowed the greatest eminence to angels (next to the Father) the writer concludes, “That he who is greater than the angels is truly God:
Hebrews 1:6, “And let all the angels of God worship him.” This would include Lucifer, also called the devil, or Satan.
This is the point of the writer of Hebrews, be it Paul or Luke. His epistles were clear, and his proof lies in the following.
Jesus has a more excellent name than angels, including Michael and Gabriel. Hebrews 1:4, “He has by inheritance (from his Father) obtained a more excellent name than they.”
Jesus is adored by the angels Hebrews 1:6, because he created them, verse 7, “Who made his angels spirits,”
In his human nature, he was endowed with greater gifts than they. Hebrews 1:8-9.
Because Jesus is eternal: Verses 10-11: He laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of his hands: They shall perish; but he will remain.
Jesus is more highly exalted, Hebrews 1:13, the Father said to him, “Sit at my right hand,”
Angels are the servants of God, but Jesus is the Son of God. Verse 14.
The Jews were warned not to neglect Christ. Hebrews 2:1, “Give heed to the things which we (the apostles) have heard,”
A negative argument is given by Divine Revelations.
Jesus is a man, less than the angels. Hebrew 2:6. Therefore, he cannot be superior to them.
How to answer this argument: Jesus, as a mortal, by his death and resurrection, overcame all his enemies, and subdued all things to himself; therefore, he must be greater than the angels, Hebrews 2:9, “Jesus who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor: that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.”
Though Jesus died as a man, and was in respect, inferior to the angels; it was necessary to take on to himself the form of a man and be of the same nature as those he was to redeem; a thing he did without prejudice to his Divinity, read Hebrews 2:10-18.
He is the author and finisher of our faith and of our salvation.
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Post #2If Jesus is the God, and as the Bible tells, there is only one true God, who is the Father?placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:42 pm ...Jesus is more highly exalted, Hebrews 1:13, the Father said to him, “Sit at my right hand,” ...
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Post #31213, had a little time this morning and did a little research. Take a look at the following and tell me what you make of it. If you have a K.J.B. please use it and see what I am looking at. I did check the N.W.T. on these verses.1213 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 4:01 amIf Jesus is the God, and as the Bible tells, there is only one true God, who is the Father?placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:42 pm ...Jesus is more highly exalted, Hebrews 1:13, the Father said to him, “Sit at my right hand,” ...
Isaiah 42:13, “The LORD (Jehovah) shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry (cry out), yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies.”
Jesus Christ is the Son of man, a mighty man, he is a man of war:
Revelation 19:11, John sees Jesus on a white war horse, he judges and makes war. Verse 13, he is clothed with blood: Verse 14, Armies follow him: From his mouth goes a sharp sword, to strike the nations, and to rule with a rod of iron: and treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of the Almighty God. Verse 16, Jesus is King of Kings and LORD of LORDS.
Compared with Daniel 2:47, King Nebuchadnezzar a man, acknowledges to Daniel, “Your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings,”
Psalms 45:3, “Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O most mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty. And in Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is called the “mighty God.” Mighty in both is the same.
Compare this with Revelation: Jesus has his name written on his thigh.
Exodus 15:3, “The LORD (Jehovah) is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
Revelation 19, tells us Jesus is a man of war, and that he is LORD of LORDS.
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Post #4And why do you worship and serve Jesus, as Jesus said "worship God and serve Him only".1213 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 4:01 amIf Jesus is the God, and as the Bible tells, there is only one true God, who is the Father?placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:42 pm ...Jesus is more highly exalted, Hebrews 1:13, the Father said to him, “Sit at my right hand,” ...
Whose words you will only obey? The Father or Jesus?
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Post #5I want to obey Fathers words. And as Jesus told, he spoke what the Father had commanded him to speak, which is why his words are also Fathers words.
For I spoke not from myself, but the Father who sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. I know that his commandment is eternal life. The things therefore which I speak, even as the Father has said to me, so I speak.
John 12:49-50
Jesus therefore answered them, "My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me. If anyone desires to do his will, he will know about the teaching, whether it is from God, or if I am speaking from myself.
John 7:16-17
Jesus answered him, "If a man loves me, he will keep my word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him, and make our home with him. He who doesn't love me doesn't keep my words. The word which you hear isn't mine, but the Father's who sent me.
John 14:23-24
For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God; for God gives the Spirit without measure.
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Post #6Jesus tells that there is only one true God and the true God is greater than him. That is why i think everything in the Bible should be understood so that it is not in contradiction with the words of Jesus.placebofactor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:50 am1213, had a little time this morning and did a little research. Take a look at the following and tell me what you make of it. If you have a K.J.B. please use it and see what I am looking at. I did check the N.W.T. on these verses.1213 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 4:01 amIf Jesus is the God, and as the Bible tells, there is only one true God, who is the Father?placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:42 pm ...Jesus is more highly exalted, Hebrews 1:13, the Father said to him, “Sit at my right hand,” ...
If God acts like a man of war, and Jesus is a man of war, it does not mean Jesus is then the God. And the person on white horse. I don't think Bible says it is Jesus. And if he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, it does not necessary mean it is his name. It could also be that he is going in someone else's name. If Christians do something in the name of Jesus, does it mean they are Jesus?placebofactor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:50 amIsaiah 42:13, “The LORD (Jehovah) shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry (cry out), yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies.”
Jesus Christ is the Son of man, a mighty man, he is a man of war:
Revelation 19:11, John sees Jesus on a white war horse, he judges and makes war. Verse 13, he is clothed with blood: Verse 14, Armies follow him: From his mouth goes a sharp sword, to strike the nations, and to rule with a rod of iron: and treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of the Almighty God. Verse 16, Jesus is King of Kings and LORD of LORDS.
Compared with Daniel 2:47, King Nebuchadnezzar a man, acknowledges to Daniel, “Your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings,”
Actually Isaiah says "His name is called", not "Jesus is called". And in this case it is good to notice, Jesus tells God has given His name to Jesus. If Jesus has God's name, it can obviously be called all the things the Bible says.placebofactor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:50 am ...And in Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is called the “mighty God.” Mighty in both is the same.
I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them through your name which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are.
John 17:11
I have come in my Father's name, and you don't receive me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him.
John 5:43
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Post #71213 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:04 pmJesus tells that there is only one true God and the true God is greater than him. That is why i think everything in the Bible should be understood so that it is not in contradiction with the words of Jesus.placebofactor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:50 am1213, had a little time this morning and did a little research. Take a look at the following and tell me what you make of it. If you have a K.J.B. please use it and see what I am looking at. I did check the N.W.T. on these verses.1213 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 4:01 amIf Jesus is the God, and as the Bible tells, there is only one true God, who is the Father?placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:42 pm ...Jesus is more highly exalted, Hebrews 1:13, the Father said to him, “Sit at my right hand,” ...
If God acts like a man of war, and Jesus is a man of war, it does not mean Jesus is then the God. And the person on white horse. I don't think Bible says it is Jesus. And if he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, it does not necessary mean it is his name. It could also be that he is going in someone else's name. If Christians do something in the name of Jesus, does it mean they are Jesus?placebofactor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:50 amIsaiah 42:13, “The LORD (Jehovah) shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry (cry out), yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies.”
Jesus Christ is the Son of man, a mighty man, he is a man of war:
Revelation 19:11, John sees Jesus on a white war horse, he judges and makes war. Verse 13, he is clothed with blood: Verse 14, Armies follow him: From his mouth goes a sharp sword, to strike the nations, and to rule with a rod of iron: and treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of the Almighty God. Verse 16, Jesus is King of Kings and LORD of LORDS.
Compared with Daniel 2:47, King Nebuchadnezzar a man, acknowledges to Daniel, “Your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings,”
Actually Isaiah says "His name is called", not "Jesus is called". And in this case it is good to notice, Jesus tells God has given His name to Jesus. If Jesus has God's name, it can obviously be called all the things the Bible says.placebofactor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:50 am ...And in Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is called the “mighty God.” Mighty in both is the same.
Did I put quotes around, Jesus is called? No, I did not! I write names so people will know who I'm talking about. Don't make something out of nothing.
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Post #8Simple question: Is Jesus higher than the angels? If you answer yes, tell me why. If not, tell me why not. Simple language. you don't have to quote any scripture verses, just tell me in plain English.1213 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 4:01 amIf Jesus is the God, and as the Bible tells, there is only one true God, who is the Father?placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:42 pm ...Jesus is more highly exalted, Hebrews 1:13, the Father said to him, “Sit at my right hand,” ...
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Post #9So, you are not a Christian. You are not a follower of Christ, an answer to your statement I colored blue above.1213 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:04 pmI want to obey Fathers words. And as Jesus told, he spoke what the Father had commanded him to speak, which is why his words are also Fathers words.
For I spoke not from myself, but the Father who sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. I know that his commandment is eternal life. The things therefore which I speak, even as the Father has said to me, so I speak.
John 12:49-50
Jesus therefore answered them, "My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me. If anyone desires to do his will, he will know about the teaching, whether it is from God, or if I am speaking from myself.
John 7:16-17
Jesus answered him, "If a man loves me, he will keep my word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him, and make our home with him. He who doesn't love me doesn't keep my words. The word which you hear isn't mine, but the Father's who sent me.
John 14:23-24
For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God; for God gives the Spirit without measure.
John 3:34
Bible lexicon defined "Christian" in Greek "Christianos" means a follower of Christ.
Act 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
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Χριστιανός
Christianos
Thayer Definition:
1) Christian, a follower of Christ
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Post #10I believe what is said in the Bible, and according to it:placebofactor wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 8:59 am ...Is Jesus higher than the angels? If you answer yes, tell me why. If not, tell me why not. Simple language. you don't have to quote any scripture verses, just tell me in plain English.
and being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself, having become obedient until death, even the death of a cross. Because of this also God highly exalted Him and gave Him a name above every name, that at the name of Jesus "every knee should bow," of heavenly ones, and earthly ones, and ones under the earth, and "every tongue should confess" that Jesus Christ is "Lord," to the glory of God the Father. Isa. 45:23
Phil. 2:8-11
So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become a high priest, but He speaking to Him, "You are My Son; today I have begotten You." Psa. 2:7
Heb. 5:5
In many parts and in many ways of old, God spoke to the fathers in the prophets; in these last days He spoke to us in the Son, whom He appointed heir of all; through whom He indeed made the ages; who being the shining splendor of His glory, and the express image of His essence, and upholding all things by the word of His power, having made purification of our sins through Himself, He sat down on the right of the Majesty on high, Psa. 110:1 having become so much better than the angels, He has inherited a name more excellent than they. For to which of the angels did He ever say, "You are My Son; today I have begotten You"? And again, "I will be a Father to Him, and He shall be a Son to Me." Psa. 2:7; 2 Sam. 7:16 And again, when He brought the First-born into the world, He said, "And let all the angels of God worship Him." LXX-Deut. 32:43, MT-No Equiv
Heb. 1:1-6
For "He subjected all things under His feet;" but when He says that all things have been subjected, it is plain that it excepts Him who has subjected all things to Him. Psa. 8:6 But when all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who has subjected all things to Him, that God may be all things in all.
1 Cor. 15:27-28
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