Should Christians destroy Satanic displays?
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Should Christians destroy Satanic displays?
Post #1Why can't people worship Satan in America? Why does this guy think he needs to police people's religious choices?
It sounds like he's a bigot. Is he opening up the idea that we should destroy everything that offends us?
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Re: Should Christians destroy Satanic displays?
Post #31Robert Reich has Trump as a total fascist. Some kind of megalomaniac as well.boatsnguitars wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:06 am
What gives you the impression he believes there is anyone greater than himself?
If he wins the next presidential election then you'll find out, because he won't need the Christian voters quite so much after that. ........ what do you think?Believe me, I'd love to find out he's a Theist. One more thing to find wrong about Theism, however, I don't see anything that indicates he even knows that Theism is.
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Re: Should Christians destroy Satanic displays?
Post #32Satanism is antagonistic. It's taking a bad guy character from someone else's canon and casting him as something other than what that canon defines him as. I'm not even saying it doesn't make sense. It actually does, considering the canon.
But imagine if I created a religion using people that already existed. Imagine I cast Mohammed as a villain.
I'm not defending anyone destroying or damaging property, but if you want to know why Satanism is taking the brunt of it, that's why. Satanists steal characters from the Christian canon and cast the good guy as the bad. People who actually worship that good guy have every reason to be offended.
Now this will never happen, because nowadays the world thinks that if you're in the majority, the law need not protect you, but if Christians made the case that the Satanist religion offended them, and said, any Satanist displays should be taken down, I would support them. Don't punish the Satanists for having them. Just warn them and then take them down.
But imagine if I created a religion using people that already existed. Imagine I cast Mohammed as a villain.
I'm not defending anyone destroying or damaging property, but if you want to know why Satanism is taking the brunt of it, that's why. Satanists steal characters from the Christian canon and cast the good guy as the bad. People who actually worship that good guy have every reason to be offended.
Now this will never happen, because nowadays the world thinks that if you're in the majority, the law need not protect you, but if Christians made the case that the Satanist religion offended them, and said, any Satanist displays should be taken down, I would support them. Don't punish the Satanists for having them. Just warn them and then take them down.
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Re: Should Christians destroy Satanic displays?
Post #33Too scary to ponder!oldbadger wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:30 pmRobert Reich has Trump as a total fascist. Some kind of megalomaniac as well.boatsnguitars wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:06 am
What gives you the impression he believes there is anyone greater than himself?
If he wins the next presidential election then you'll find out, because he won't need the Christian voters quite so much after that. ........ what do you think?Believe me, I'd love to find out he's a Theist. One more thing to find wrong about Theism, however, I don't see anything that indicates he even knows that Theism is.
“And do you think that unto such as you
A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew
God gave a secret, and denied it me?
Well, well—what matters it? Believe that, too!”
― Omar Khayyâm
A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew
God gave a secret, and denied it me?
Well, well—what matters it? Believe that, too!”
― Omar Khayyâm
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Re: Should Christians destroy Satanic displays?
Post #34"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Seneca the Younger is thought to have said this.Muckman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:56 pm [Replying to boatsnguitars in post #21]
Sorry big guy but you'll never convince many of us that Trump was or is an Atheist.
Commoner: The god concept of our geographic region is true!
Wise man: Nah, it's just another available god concept. You haven't traveled much have you?
Ruler: You mean I can get these people to go to war with our neighbors if I can convince them that their god concept wants it done? I can even ignore that I really want their females, food, gold and land? How useful! Now get me the Shaman, I have claims to make about our neighbors!
Are you able to be convinced that Trump is smart enough to realize this? If so, him being an atheist, but claiming to be a Christian would be a useful thing for the said man to say.
The ruler named Moses surely found this concept as useful if we are to believe the Bible:
Numbers 31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
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Re: Should Christians destroy Satanic displays?
Post #35So in other words you didn't bother to read and learn something. Of course they know very well what the character in the bible is, and that literal belief in that character would be theism. The point is they don't have a literal belief in that character, they embrace it to oppose biblical values.oldbadger wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:52 am'Atheistic Satanism' is a perfect example of a contradiction of terms.historia wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:55 pmNot typically. The religious group that set-up this statue in Iowa practices atheistic Satanism.
If this groups adores or follows Satan then it is a theistic group, because Satan is both a kind of god or because the very recognition of Satan admits a god which Satan is versed against. So these folks would admit to an aware and involved godhead.
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Post #36How do you know what 'they' believe in?help3434 wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 7:38 am
So in other words you didn't bother to read and learn something. Of course they know very well what the character in the bible is, and that literal belief in that character would be theism. The point is they don't have a literal belief in that character, they embrace it to oppose biblical values.
And Christianity dumped plenty of biblical values itself.
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Post #37You could also have someone who believed the Christian cannon was true or largely so, but perhaps that this entity calling itself God, is simply not deserving of being called that. I would argue that's a good fit for the term atheistic satanism: That thing calling itself God exists, but is not God. Nothing is. To call yourself that is tyranny.
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Post #38By reading about the Church of Satan and The Satanic Temple.
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Post #39So what's the problem? If you are correct then all serious Satanists don't believe in Satan....correct?
Lots of Christians do, of course.
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Post #40Bible-believing Christians like me will rarely support violence and only then in response to encroaching wickedness. Tearing down statues, burning churches of false religions, and desecrating satanic displays are not something I believe God leads His followers to do as a common rule.boatsnguitars wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:59 pm It's interesting. Christians will defend genocide in the Bible, but not civil disobedience?
Also, it seems they often argue their beliefs ought to be forced on children in school as free speech, but seem to feel others don't have that right.
What does the Bible say? Isn't there a single interpretation that all Christians agree on?