The two Giants of religion

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The two Giants of religion

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Most of us, and most all theologians believe we are now in the last days. Will there be a one-world religion under the Kingship of the Antichrist?

My question is, “Will the two giants of religion, Catholicism and Islam come to a compromise concerning the Father in Heaven and Allah? Will there be any single issue that could bring the two together, giving the appearance of co-equality between the two giants of world religion and a form of togetherness between the two Gods they worship?

In 1916, and on three separate occasions, three young children, Lucia Santos, and her two cousins claimed to have witnessed apparitions of an angel in the region of Ourem Portugal. These sightings continued until 5/13/1917 when, while tending sheep they claimed to have witnessed the apparition of what they claimed to be the Virgin Mary.

Mary is for the Moslems the true Sayyida, or Lady. The only serious rival to her in their creed would be Fatima, the daughter of Mohammed. But after the death of Fatima, Mohammed wrote: Thou shalt be the most blessed of women in Paradise, after Mary. In a variant of the text Fatima is made to say; I surpass all the women, except Mary.”

Mary has played an important role in the Muslim and Catholic world. Perhaps as Catholic Bishop Sheen noted, “She (Mary) will be the bridge that connects two vastly different cultures, and the common mother who keeps her children talking.” So, the question, “Does the Lady of Fatima, Mary, and Mohamad’s daughter Fatima have any future role in Vatican-Muslim dialogue in these end days?

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[Replying to historia in post #29]

Anyone who cares can google it for themselves and find facts.

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onewithhim wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:21 pmWhy is His name included in almost 7,000 places in the Scriptures? Wherever the "LORD" appears in the texts of Bibles that eliminated His name, that is where His name should be. Whether "Jehovah," "Yahweh," or the Hebrew letters signifying His name (YHWH).....in Hebrew "Yhodh He' WaW He'." It really doesn't matter if He is referred to as "Elohim" in Genesis. Be that as it may. There are 7,000 other places that His name is included in the verses.
Yahweh is one of His names. I have never disputed that.
My pronouns are he, him, and his.

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Difflugia wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:20 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:21 pmWhy is His name included in almost 7,000 places in the Scriptures? Wherever the "LORD" appears in the texts of Bibles that eliminated His name, that is where His name should be. Whether "Jehovah," "Yahweh," or the Hebrew letters signifying His name (YHWH).....in Hebrew "Yhodh He' WaW He'." It really doesn't matter if He is referred to as "Elohim" in Genesis. Be that as it may. There are 7,000 other places that His name is included in the verses.
Yahweh is one of His names. I have never disputed that.
Why dispute "Jehovah" or "Iehovah," (as the KJV of 1611 presents it)?

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onewithhim wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:29 pmWhy dispute "Jehovah" or "Iehovah," (as the KJV of 1611 presents it)?
OK. We can change the subject.

Because Jehovah and variants are unlikely to be accurate. The Masoretes pointed the Tetragrammaton with the vowels of the word to replace it when reading. When it should be replaced with Adonai, the text reads "Jehovah."
  • Adonai with vowel points: אֲדֹנָי
  • YHWH with Adonai ("Jehovah") vowel points: יְהוָה
Sometimes it's Elohim instead of Adonai, though:
  • Elohim with vowel points: אֱלֹהִים
  • YHWH with Elohim vowel points: יֱהֹוִה
Since we know that the Masoretes pointed YHWH with vowels from different words, then we also know that if YHWH were actually pronounced in one of those ways, it's just a coincidence. Instead, the current scholarly consensus is that the name was pronounced Yahweh. While it's possible that the scholars are wrong, they're far more likely to be right than mere coincidence.
My pronouns are he, him, and his.

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