It is written in John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”
And Jesus said in John 14:6-7
King James Version
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.”
So if no man has seen God at any time, how do we reconcile what seems to be a contradiction? When you understand the identity of the Son of God being the very Word of God, then you will understand there is no contradiction.
It is the Word OF God that was made flesh in the man Jesus. And it is BY God’s Word and words that we get to know and see what God the Father is really like, His likes and dislikes. It is by God’s Word and words we get to see and know the will of God the Father.
In this way, by looking at the words and actions of Jesus Christ we get to see and know what The invisible God is really like.
We don’t see the outward image of God in Christ, but rather we see the inward image of God in Jesus Christ, as God was in Christ.
Colossians 1:15
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
When you understand this mystery then there is a harmony to the text without contradiction.
Peace and God bless
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Re: No man has seen God at any time
Post #101As it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 amNo, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pmIs this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pmI did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.Difflugia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:34 pmNot necessarily and not necessarily in this verse. You seem to be saying that since word order is "different" for Greek, you can rearrange the words however you want. That's nonsense.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:25 pmIm sorry, but you are wrong. Sentence structure is different for Greek compared to English.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:55 amI believe you missed to checked your assumption that the grammatical construction of Greek is different than that of English.
And you are wrong.
No, English sentence construction is following the Greek construction. See the nearest antecedent of the phrase "this is the true God" in the Greek still is Jesus Christ.
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Post #102It is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pmAs it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 amNo, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pmIs this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pmI did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.Difflugia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:34 pmNot necessarily and not necessarily in this verse. You seem to be saying that since word order is "different" for Greek, you can rearrange the words however you want. That's nonsense.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:25 pmIm sorry, but you are wrong. Sentence structure is different for Greek compared to English.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:55 amI believe you missed to checked your assumption that the grammatical construction of Greek is different than that of English.
And you are wrong.
No, English sentence construction is following the Greek construction. See the nearest antecedent of the phrase "this is the true God" in the Greek still is Jesus Christ.
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Post #103I colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pmIt is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pmAs it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 amNo, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pmIs this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pmI did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.Difflugia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:34 pmNot necessarily and not necessarily in this verse. You seem to be saying that since word order is "different" for Greek, you can rearrange the words however you want. That's nonsense.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:25 pmIm sorry, but you are wrong. Sentence structure is different for Greek compared to English.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:55 amI believe you missed to checked your assumption that the grammatical construction of Greek is different than that of English.
And you are wrong.
No, English sentence construction is following the Greek construction. See the nearest antecedent of the phrase "this is the true God" in the Greek still is Jesus Christ.
1Jn 5:20 And G1161 we know G1492 that G3754 the G3588 Son G5207 of God G2316 is come, G2240 and G2532 hath given G1325 us G2254 an understanding, G1271 that G2443 we may know G1097 him that is true, G228 and G2532 we are G2070 in G1722 him that is true, G228 even in G1722 his G848 Son G5207 Jesus G2424 Christ. G5547 This G3778 is G2076 the G3588 true G228 God, G2316 and G2532 eternal G166 life. G2222
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Re: No man has seen God at any time
Post #104It is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:21 pmI colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pmIt is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pmAs it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 amNo, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pmIs this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pmI did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.Difflugia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:34 pmNot necessarily and not necessarily in this verse. You seem to be saying that since word order is "different" for Greek, you can rearrange the words however you want. That's nonsense.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:25 pmIm sorry, but you are wrong. Sentence structure is different for Greek compared to English.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:55 amI believe you missed to checked your assumption that the grammatical construction of Greek is different than that of English.
And you are wrong.
No, English sentence construction is following the Greek construction. See the nearest antecedent of the phrase "this is the true God" in the Greek still is Jesus Christ.
1Jn 5:20 And G1161 we know G1492 that G3754 the G3588 Son G5207 of God G2316 is come, G2240 and G2532 hath given G1325 us G2254 an understanding, G1271 that G2443 we may know G1097 him that is true, G228 and G2532 we are G2070 in G1722 him that is true, G228 even in G1722 his G848 Son G5207 Jesus G2424 Christ. G5547 This G3778 is G2076 the G3588 true G228 God, G2316 and G2532 eternal G166 life. G2222
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Post #105Is the original Greek of the verse wrong?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:30 pmIt is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:21 pmI colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pmIt is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pmAs it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 amNo, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pmIs this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pmI did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.Difflugia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:34 pmNot necessarily and not necessarily in this verse. You seem to be saying that since word order is "different" for Greek, you can rearrange the words however you want. That's nonsense.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:25 pmIm sorry, but you are wrong. Sentence structure is different for Greek compared to English.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:55 amI believe you missed to checked your assumption that the grammatical construction of Greek is different than that of English.
And you are wrong.
No, English sentence construction is following the Greek construction. See the nearest antecedent of the phrase "this is the true God" in the Greek still is Jesus Christ.
1Jn 5:20 And G1161 we know G1492 that G3754 the G3588 Son G5207 of God G2316 is come, G2240 and G2532 hath given G1325 us G2254 an understanding, G1271 that G2443 we may know G1097 him that is true, G228 and G2532 we are G2070 in G1722 him that is true, G228 even in G1722 his G848 Son G5207 Jesus G2424 Christ. G5547 This G3778 is G2076 the G3588 true G228 God, G2316 and G2532 eternal G166 life. G2222
1Jn 5:20 And G1161 we know G1492 that G3754 the G3588 Son G5207 of God G2316 is come, G2240 and G2532 hath given G1325 us G2254 an understanding, G1271 that G2443 we may know G1097 him that is true, G228 and G2532 we are G2070 in G1722 him that is true, G228 even in G1722 his G848 Son G5207 Jesus G2424 Christ. G5547 This G3778 is G2076 the G3588 true G228 God, G2316 and G2532 eternal G166 life. G2222
Just read it plain and simple.
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Re: No man has seen God at any time
Post #106"Jesus Christ, even the Son of his" is the same as "even in his Son, Jesus Christ." What is the next phrase after "his"?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:15 pmIs the original Greek of the verse wrong?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:30 pmIt is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:21 pmI colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pmIt is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pmAs it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 amNo, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pmIs this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pmI did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.Difflugia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:34 pmNot necessarily and not necessarily in this verse. You seem to be saying that since word order is "different" for Greek, you can rearrange the words however you want. That's nonsense.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:25 pmIm sorry, but you are wrong. Sentence structure is different for Greek compared to English.
1Jn 5:20 And G1161 we know G1492 that G3754 the G3588 Son G5207 of God G2316 is come, G2240 and G2532 hath given G1325 us G2254 an understanding, G1271 that G2443 we may know G1097 him that is true, G228 and G2532 we are G2070 in G1722 him that is true, G228 even in G1722 his G848 Son G5207 Jesus G2424 Christ. G5547 This G3778 is G2076 the G3588 true G228 God, G2316 and G2532 eternal G166 life. G2222
1Jn 5:20 And G1161 we know G1492 that G3754 the G3588 Son G5207 of God G2316 is come, G2240 and G2532 hath given G1325 us G2254 an understanding, G1271 that G2443 we may know G1097 him that is true, G228 and G2532 we are G2070 in G1722 him that is true, G228 even in G1722 his G848 Son G5207 Jesus G2424 Christ. G5547 This G3778 is G2076 the G3588 true G228 God, G2316 and G2532 eternal G166 life. G2222
Just read it plain and simple.
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Post #107Yes, the next phrase after his is, "His Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:44 pm"Jesus Christ, even the Son of his" is the same as "even in his Son, Jesus Christ." What is the next phrase after "his"?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:15 pmIs the original Greek of the verse wrong?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:30 pmIt is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:21 pmI colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pmIt is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pmAs it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 amNo, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pmIs this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pmI did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.
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1Jn 5:20 And G1161 we know G1492 that G3754 the G3588 Son G5207 of God G2316 is come, G2240 and G2532 hath given G1325 us G2254 an understanding, G1271 that G2443 we may know G1097 him that is true, G228 and G2532 we are G2070 in G1722 him that is true, G228 even in G1722 his G848 Son G5207 Jesus G2424 Christ. G5547 This G3778 is G2076 the G3588 true G228 God, G2316 and G2532 eternal G166 life. G2222
Just read it plain and simple.
How Christians experience eternal life? Is to know God and Jesus Christ. (John 17:3) True or not?
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Post #108Yes, I have said this many times. To know God AND Jesus Christ.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:28 pmYes, the next phrase after his is, "His Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:44 pm"Jesus Christ, even the Son of his" is the same as "even in his Son, Jesus Christ." What is the next phrase after "his"?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:15 pmIs the original Greek of the verse wrong?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:30 pmIt is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:21 pmI colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pmIt is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pmAs it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 amNo, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pmIs this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pm
I did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.
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1Jn 5:20 And G1161 we know G1492 that G3754 the G3588 Son G5207 of God G2316 is come, G2240 and G2532 hath given G1325 us G2254 an understanding, G1271 that G2443 we may know G1097 him that is true, G228 and G2532 we are G2070 in G1722 him that is true, G228 even in G1722 his G848 Son G5207 Jesus G2424 Christ. G5547 This G3778 is G2076 the G3588 true G228 God, G2316 and G2532 eternal G166 life. G2222
Just read it plain and simple.
How Christians experience eternal life? Is to know God and Jesus Christ. (John 17:3) True or not?
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Post #109Yes, but you did not address my answer I colored blue above to you question I also colored blue above mine.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:43 pmYes, I have said this many times. To know God AND Jesus Christ.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:28 pmYes, the next phrase after his is, "His Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:44 pm"Jesus Christ, even the Son of his" is the same as "even in his Son, Jesus Christ." What is the next phrase after "his"?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:15 pmIs the original Greek of the verse wrong?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:30 pmIt is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:21 pmI colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pmIt is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pmAs it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 amNo, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pm
Is this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?
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Just read it plain and simple.
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Post #110Who is referred to when saying "his"? That is the Father (God) who is mentioned there. He is the true God, not Jesus.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:13 pmYes, but you did not address my answer I colored blue above to you question I also colored blue above mine.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:43 pmYes, I have said this many times. To know God AND Jesus Christ.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:28 pmYes, the next phrase after his is, "His Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:44 pm"Jesus Christ, even the Son of his" is the same as "even in his Son, Jesus Christ." What is the next phrase after "his"?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:15 pmIs the original Greek of the verse wrong?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:30 pmIt is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:21 pmI colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pmIt is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pmAs it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 am No, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.
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Just read it plain and simple.
How Christians experience eternal life? Is to know God and Jesus Christ. (John 17:3) True or not?