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No man has seen God at any time

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It is written in John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”

And Jesus said in John 14:6-7
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6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.”

So if no man has seen God at any time, how do we reconcile what seems to be a contradiction? When you understand the identity of the Son of God being the very Word of God, then you will understand there is no contradiction.

It is the Word OF God that was made flesh in the man Jesus. And it is BY God’s Word and words that we get to know and see what God the Father is really like, His likes and dislikes. It is by God’s Word and words we get to see and know the will of God the Father.

In this way, by looking at the words and actions of Jesus Christ we get to see and know what The invisible God is really like.

We don’t see the outward image of God in Christ, but rather we see the inward image of God in Jesus Christ, as God was in Christ.

Colossians 1:15
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

When you understand this mystery then there is a harmony to the text without contradiction.

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Re: No man has seen God at any time

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onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pm
Difflugia wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:25 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:55 amI believe you missed to checked your assumption that the grammatical construction of Greek is different than that of English.
And you are wrong.

No, English sentence construction is following the Greek construction. See the nearest antecedent of the phrase "this is the true God" in the Greek still is Jesus Christ.
Im sorry, but you are wrong. Sentence structure is different for Greek compared to English.
Not necessarily and not necessarily in this verse. You seem to be saying that since word order is "different" for Greek, you can rearrange the words however you want. That's nonsense.
I did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.
Is this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
No, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.
As it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?

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Re: No man has seen God at any time

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Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pm
Difflugia wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:25 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:55 amI believe you missed to checked your assumption that the grammatical construction of Greek is different than that of English.
And you are wrong.

No, English sentence construction is following the Greek construction. See the nearest antecedent of the phrase "this is the true God" in the Greek still is Jesus Christ.
Im sorry, but you are wrong. Sentence structure is different for Greek compared to English.
Not necessarily and not necessarily in this verse. You seem to be saying that since word order is "different" for Greek, you can rearrange the words however you want. That's nonsense.
I did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.
Is this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
No, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.
As it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?
It is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.

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Re: No man has seen God at any time

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onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pm
Difflugia wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:25 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:55 amI believe you missed to checked your assumption that the grammatical construction of Greek is different than that of English.
And you are wrong.

No, English sentence construction is following the Greek construction. See the nearest antecedent of the phrase "this is the true God" in the Greek still is Jesus Christ.
Im sorry, but you are wrong. Sentence structure is different for Greek compared to English.
Not necessarily and not necessarily in this verse. You seem to be saying that since word order is "different" for Greek, you can rearrange the words however you want. That's nonsense.
I did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.
Is this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
No, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.
As it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?
It is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.
I colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 

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Re: No man has seen God at any time

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Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:21 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pm
Difflugia wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:25 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:55 amI believe you missed to checked your assumption that the grammatical construction of Greek is different than that of English.
And you are wrong.

No, English sentence construction is following the Greek construction. See the nearest antecedent of the phrase "this is the true God" in the Greek still is Jesus Christ.
Im sorry, but you are wrong. Sentence structure is different for Greek compared to English.
Not necessarily and not necessarily in this verse. You seem to be saying that since word order is "different" for Greek, you can rearrange the words however you want. That's nonsense.
I did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.
Is this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
No, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.
As it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?
It is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.
I colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
It is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?

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Re: No man has seen God at any time

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onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:30 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:21 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pm
Difflugia wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:25 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:55 amI believe you missed to checked your assumption that the grammatical construction of Greek is different than that of English.
And you are wrong.

No, English sentence construction is following the Greek construction. See the nearest antecedent of the phrase "this is the true God" in the Greek still is Jesus Christ.
Im sorry, but you are wrong. Sentence structure is different for Greek compared to English.
Not necessarily and not necessarily in this verse. You seem to be saying that since word order is "different" for Greek, you can rearrange the words however you want. That's nonsense.
I did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.
Is this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
No, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.
As it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?
It is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.
I colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
It is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?
Is the original Greek of the verse wrong?
Just read it plain and simple.

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Re: No man has seen God at any time

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Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:15 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:30 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:21 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pm
Difflugia wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:25 pmIm sorry, but you are wrong. Sentence structure is different for Greek compared to English.
Not necessarily and not necessarily in this verse. You seem to be saying that since word order is "different" for Greek, you can rearrange the words however you want. That's nonsense.
I did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.
Is this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
No, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.
As it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?
It is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.
I colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
It is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?
Is the original Greek of the verse wrong?
Just read it plain and simple.
"Jesus Christ, even the Son of his" is the same as "even in his Son, Jesus Christ." What is the next phrase after "his"?

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onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:44 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:15 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:30 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:21 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pm
Difflugia wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:34 pm
Not necessarily and not necessarily in this verse. You seem to be saying that since word order is "different" for Greek, you can rearrange the words however you want. That's nonsense.
I did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.
Is this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
No, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.
As it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?
It is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.
I colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
It is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?
Is the original Greek of the verse wrong?
Just read it plain and simple.
"Jesus Christ, even the Son of his" is the same as "even in his Son, Jesus Christ." What is the next phrase after "his"?
Yes, the next phrase after his is, "His Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.
How Christians experience eternal life? Is to know God and Jesus Christ. (John 17:3) True or not?

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Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:28 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:44 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:15 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:30 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:21 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:09 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:05 pm

I did not say that "you can rearrange the words however you want." There are specific rules in translating Greek to English.
Is this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
No, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.
As it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?
It is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.
I colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
It is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?
Is the original Greek of the verse wrong?
Just read it plain and simple.
"Jesus Christ, even the Son of his" is the same as "even in his Son, Jesus Christ." What is the next phrase after "his"?
Yes, the next phrase after his is, "His Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.
How Christians experience eternal life? Is to know God and Jesus Christ. (John 17:3) True or not?
Yes, I have said this many times. To know God AND Jesus Christ.

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onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:43 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:28 pm
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Is this original Greek of 1John 5:20 wrong to you?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
No, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.
As it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?
It is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.
I colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
It is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?
Is the original Greek of the verse wrong?
Just read it plain and simple.
"Jesus Christ, even the Son of his" is the same as "even in his Son, Jesus Christ." What is the next phrase after "his"?
Yes, the next phrase after his is, "His Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.
How Christians experience eternal life? Is to know God and Jesus Christ. (John 17:3) True or not?
Yes, I have said this many times. To know God AND Jesus Christ.
Yes, but you did not address my answer I colored blue above to you question I also colored blue above mine.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:13 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:43 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:28 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:44 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:15 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:30 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:21 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:11 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:38 am No, it is not wrong. It shows that the true God is the Father---the "him" and the "his" of that passage. "We may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son, Jesus Christ." The Father is the true God.
As it is not wrong, then who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God" in that Greek sentence construction?
It is "his," that is, the Father who is God. "His" Son. The sentence could be: "Jesus Christ, the Son of his ." That means exactly the same as the other sentence structure. It is clear that "his" is the Father's pronoun, and he is the true God.
I colored blue the name "Jesus Christ," what is the next phrase after His name?

1Jn 5:20 And G1161  we know G1492  that G3754  the G3588  Son G5207  of God G2316  is come, G2240  and G2532  hath given G1325  us G2254  an understanding, G1271  that G2443  we may know G1097  him that is true, G228  and G2532  we are G2070  in G1722  him that is true, G228  even in G1722  his G848  Son G5207  Jesus G2424  Christ. G5547  This G3778  is G2076  the G3588  true G228  God, G2316  and G2532  eternal G166  life. G2222 
It is the same as "Jesus Christ, the Son of his." What is the next phrase after "his"?
Is the original Greek of the verse wrong?
Just read it plain and simple.
"Jesus Christ, even the Son of his" is the same as "even in his Son, Jesus Christ." What is the next phrase after "his"?
Yes, the next phrase after his is, "His Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.
How Christians experience eternal life? Is to know God and Jesus Christ. (John 17:3) True or not?
Yes, I have said this many times. To know God AND Jesus Christ.
Yes, but you did not address my answer I colored blue above to you question I also colored blue above mine.
Who is referred to when saying "his"? That is the Father (God) who is mentioned there. He is the true God, not Jesus.

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