When You Stand Before Jesus, Will You Say To Him "You Are Not God?"
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Post #21As JW professed as a Christian you follow closely Jesus steps in 1 Peter 2:21.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:53 pmI follow Jesus, and he taught his followers that he was speaking to them what God told him to speak. So what Jesus said was "of God."Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:00 pmDo that mean that you follow closely the teachings, behavior and steps of (your man) Jesus but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:28 pmYes, I agree.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:44 pmAs JW are Christians, why you try to follow Jesus steps but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21.)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:05 pmNo, Jesus taught the precepts of God. The Pharisees did not. They taught the precepts of men.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:17 pmDo the Father mean that those people's heart far from the God as they taught the precept of men? (Isa 29:13)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:32 amCould you re-state that please? Your sentence is confusing.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:15 pmDo the Father mean that those people's heart far from the Father as they taught the precept of men including Jesus?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:11 pmThe LORD in Isaiah 29 is Jehovah. It is He who is referred to in the verse that Jesus quotes.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:39 am
As Jesus quoted this verse, it just proves that Jesus is God. The "me" here is God the Father and "me" in Mark 7:7 implied that Jesus is God. As it is vain to worship the Father and Jesus while teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (If Jesus is man to you, your worship to Him is vain.)
Isa 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
Do that include the teachings of your man Jesus?
1 Peter 2:21 In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you,a leaving a model for you to follow his steps closely.
Yes. We are Christians for the following reasons:
We try to follow closely the teachings and behavior of Jesus Christ.—1 Peter 2:21.
We believe that Jesus is the key to salvation, that “there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”—Acts 4:12.
When people become Jehovah’s Witnesses, they are baptized in the name of Jesus.—Matthew 28:18, 19.
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesse ... hristians/
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But it is not of God. Yes or no.
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Post #22It is of God.Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:37 pmAs JW professed as a Christian you follow closely Jesus steps in 1 Peter 2:21.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:53 pmI follow Jesus, and he taught his followers that he was speaking to them what God told him to speak. So what Jesus said was "of God."Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:00 pmDo that mean that you follow closely the teachings, behavior and steps of (your man) Jesus but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:28 pmYes, I agree.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:44 pmAs JW are Christians, why you try to follow Jesus steps but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21.)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:05 pmNo, Jesus taught the precepts of God. The Pharisees did not. They taught the precepts of men.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:17 pmDo the Father mean that those people's heart far from the God as they taught the precept of men? (Isa 29:13)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:32 amCould you re-state that please? Your sentence is confusing.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:15 pmDo the Father mean that those people's heart far from the Father as they taught the precept of men including Jesus?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:11 pm
The LORD in Isaiah 29 is Jehovah. It is He who is referred to in the verse that Jesus quotes.
Do that include the teachings of your man Jesus?
1 Peter 2:21 In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you,a leaving a model for you to follow his steps closely.
Yes. We are Christians for the following reasons:
We try to follow closely the teachings and behavior of Jesus Christ.—1 Peter 2:21.
We believe that Jesus is the key to salvation, that “there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”—Acts 4:12.
When people become Jehovah’s Witnesses, they are baptized in the name of Jesus.—Matthew 28:18, 19.
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesse ... hristians/
I posted that link above.
But it is not of God. Yes or no.
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Post #23Can you prove that the steps of Jesus is the steps of God in that text?onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:42 pmIt is of God.Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:37 pmAs JW professed as a Christian you follow closely Jesus steps in 1 Peter 2:21.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:53 pmI follow Jesus, and he taught his followers that he was speaking to them what God told him to speak. So what Jesus said was "of God."Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:00 pmDo that mean that you follow closely the teachings, behavior and steps of (your man) Jesus but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:28 pmYes, I agree.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:44 pmAs JW are Christians, why you try to follow Jesus steps but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21.)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:05 pmNo, Jesus taught the precepts of God. The Pharisees did not. They taught the precepts of men.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:17 pmDo the Father mean that those people's heart far from the God as they taught the precept of men? (Isa 29:13)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:32 amCould you re-state that please? Your sentence is confusing.
Do that include the teachings of your man Jesus?
1 Peter 2:21 In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you,a leaving a model for you to follow his steps closely.
Yes. We are Christians for the following reasons:
We try to follow closely the teachings and behavior of Jesus Christ.—1 Peter 2:21.
We believe that Jesus is the key to salvation, that “there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”—Acts 4:12.
When people become Jehovah’s Witnesses, they are baptized in the name of Jesus.—Matthew 28:18, 19.
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesse ... hristians/
I posted that link above.
But it is not of God. Yes or no.
Is it your belief that the Father is always in heaven?
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Post #24If we read more of the Bible we know that whatever Jesus does he does because the Father told him what to do. (John 5:19)Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:41 pmCan you prove that the steps of Jesus is the steps of God in that text?onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:42 pmIt is of God.Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:37 pmAs JW professed as a Christian you follow closely Jesus steps in 1 Peter 2:21.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:53 pmI follow Jesus, and he taught his followers that he was speaking to them what God told him to speak. So what Jesus said was "of God."Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:00 pmDo that mean that you follow closely the teachings, behavior and steps of (your man) Jesus but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:28 pmYes, I agree.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:44 pmAs JW are Christians, why you try to follow Jesus steps but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21.)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:05 pmNo, Jesus taught the precepts of God. The Pharisees did not. They taught the precepts of men.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:17 pmDo the Father mean that those people's heart far from the God as they taught the precept of men? (Isa 29:13)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:32 am
Could you re-state that please? Your sentence is confusing.
Do that include the teachings of your man Jesus?
1 Peter 2:21 In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you,a leaving a model for you to follow his steps closely.
Yes. We are Christians for the following reasons:
We try to follow closely the teachings and behavior of Jesus Christ.—1 Peter 2:21.
We believe that Jesus is the key to salvation, that “there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”—Acts 4:12.
When people become Jehovah’s Witnesses, they are baptized in the name of Jesus.—Matthew 28:18, 19.
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesse ... hristians/
I posted that link above.
But it is not of God. Yes or no.
Is it your belief that the Father is always in heaven?
Yes, the Father is always in heaven. He sends his representatives to the earth in his stead.
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Post #25Then whose steps is on 1 Pet 2:21? Is it of the Father or of Jesus?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:16 pmIf we read more of the Bible we know that whatever Jesus does he does because the Father told him what to do. (John 5:19)Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:41 pmCan you prove that the steps of Jesus is the steps of God in that text?onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:42 pmIt is of God.Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:37 pmAs JW professed as a Christian you follow closely Jesus steps in 1 Peter 2:21.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:53 pmI follow Jesus, and he taught his followers that he was speaking to them what God told him to speak. So what Jesus said was "of God."Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:00 pmDo that mean that you follow closely the teachings, behavior and steps of (your man) Jesus but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:28 pmYes, I agree.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:44 pmAs JW are Christians, why you try to follow Jesus steps but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21.)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:05 pmNo, Jesus taught the precepts of God. The Pharisees did not. They taught the precepts of men.
1 Peter 2:21 In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you,a leaving a model for you to follow his steps closely.
Yes. We are Christians for the following reasons:
We try to follow closely the teachings and behavior of Jesus Christ.—1 Peter 2:21.
We believe that Jesus is the key to salvation, that “there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”—Acts 4:12.
When people become Jehovah’s Witnesses, they are baptized in the name of Jesus.—Matthew 28:18, 19.
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesse ... hristians/
I posted that link above.
But it is not of God. Yes or no.
Is it your belief that the Father is always in heaven?
Yes, the Father is always in heaven. He sends his representatives to the earth in his stead.
As representative is not a Bible word.
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Re: When You Stand Before Jesus, Will You Say To Him "You Are Not God?"
Post #26It depends what version you are referring to. "Representative" also refers to His angels and Jesus. That is what they do when they come to the earth. They are representing Jehovah, because He is too great to come to the earth Himself. (I Kings 8:27) The steps in I Peter 2:21 are Jesus' steps. He does what the Father tells him to do (John 5:19, 12:49,50), so those steps are as if Jehovah made them Himself.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:37 pmThen whose steps is on 1 Pet 2:21? Is it of the Father or of Jesus?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:16 pmIf we read more of the Bible we know that whatever Jesus does he does because the Father told him what to do. (John 5:19)Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:41 pmCan you prove that the steps of Jesus is the steps of God in that text?onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:42 pmIt is of God.Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:37 pmAs JW professed as a Christian you follow closely Jesus steps in 1 Peter 2:21.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:53 pmI follow Jesus, and he taught his followers that he was speaking to them what God told him to speak. So what Jesus said was "of God."Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:00 pmDo that mean that you follow closely the teachings, behavior and steps of (your man) Jesus but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:28 pmYes, I agree.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:44 pmAs JW are Christians, why you try to follow Jesus steps but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21.)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:05 pm
No, Jesus taught the precepts of God. The Pharisees did not. They taught the precepts of men.
1 Peter 2:21 In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you,a leaving a model for you to follow his steps closely.
Yes. We are Christians for the following reasons:
We try to follow closely the teachings and behavior of Jesus Christ.—1 Peter 2:21.
We believe that Jesus is the key to salvation, that “there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”—Acts 4:12.
When people become Jehovah’s Witnesses, they are baptized in the name of Jesus.—Matthew 28:18, 19.
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesse ... hristians/
I posted that link above.
But it is not of God. Yes or no.
Is it your belief that the Father is always in heaven?
Yes, the Father is always in heaven. He sends his representatives to the earth in his stead.
As representative is not a Bible word.
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Post #27Just as if but it is not really the steps of the Father is that what you mean?onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:49 pmIt depends what version you are referring to. "Representative" also refers to His angels and Jesus. That is what they do when they come to the earth. They are representing Jehovah, because He is too great to come to the earth Himself. (I Kings 8:27) The steps in I Peter 2:21 are Jesus' steps. He does what the Father tells him to do (John 5:19, 12:49,50), so those steps are as if Jehovah made them Himself.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:37 pmThen whose steps is on 1 Pet 2:21? Is it of the Father or of Jesus?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:16 pmIf we read more of the Bible we know that whatever Jesus does he does because the Father told him what to do. (John 5:19)Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:41 pmCan you prove that the steps of Jesus is the steps of God in that text?onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:42 pmIt is of God.Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:37 pmAs JW professed as a Christian you follow closely Jesus steps in 1 Peter 2:21.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:53 pmI follow Jesus, and he taught his followers that he was speaking to them what God told him to speak. So what Jesus said was "of God."Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:00 pmDo that mean that you follow closely the teachings, behavior and steps of (your man) Jesus but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21)onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:28 pmYes, I agree.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:44 pm
As JW are Christians, why you try to follow Jesus steps but not of God? (1 Pet 2:21.)
1 Peter 2:21 In fact, to this course you were called, because even Christ suffered for you,a leaving a model for you to follow his steps closely.
Yes. We are Christians for the following reasons:
We try to follow closely the teachings and behavior of Jesus Christ.—1 Peter 2:21.
We believe that Jesus is the key to salvation, that “there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”—Acts 4:12.
When people become Jehovah’s Witnesses, they are baptized in the name of Jesus.—Matthew 28:18, 19.
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesse ... hristians/
I posted that link above.
But it is not of God. Yes or no.
Is it your belief that the Father is always in heaven?
Yes, the Father is always in heaven. He sends his representatives to the earth in his stead.
As representative is not a Bible word.
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Re: When You Stand Before Jesus, Will You Say To Him "You Are Not God?"
Post #28They are Jesus' steps, representing the Father who would walk in the same way if He was on Earth. (I Kings 8:27; John 5:19, 12:49,50)Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 1:30 pmJust as if but it is not really the steps of the Father is that what you mean?onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:49 pmIt depends what version you are referring to. "Representative" also refers to His angels and Jesus. That is what they do when they come to the earth. They are representing Jehovah, because He is too great to come to the earth Himself. (I Kings 8:27) The steps in I Peter 2:21 are Jesus' steps. He does what the Father tells him to do (John 5:19, 12:49,50), so those steps are as if Jehovah made them Himself.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:37 pmThen whose steps is on 1 Pet 2:21? Is it of the Father or of Jesus?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:16 pmIf we read more of the Bible we know that whatever Jesus does he does because the Father told him what to do. (John 5:19)Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:41 pmCan you prove that the steps of Jesus is the steps of God in that text?onewithhim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:42 pmIt is of God.Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:37 pmAs JW professed as a Christian you follow closely Jesus steps in 1 Peter 2:21.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:53 pmI follow Jesus, and he taught his followers that he was speaking to them what God told him to speak. So what Jesus said was "of God."
But it is not of God. Yes or no.
Is it your belief that the Father is always in heaven?
Yes, the Father is always in heaven. He sends his representatives to the earth in his stead.
As representative is not a Bible word.
Re: When You Stand Before Jesus, Will You Say To Him "You Are Not God?"
Post #29I know Jesus is God.
He is my God.
He is in me and I am in Him.
If He were not God then I could not do all things in Him.
In God the Christ I can do all things.
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Post #30Jesus is true God. (1 John 5:20)
No one is called in the form of God before He became human. (Phil 2:6)