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The UNITED NATIONS will turn against the world religions?

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  • Do you think you will always remember that Jehovahs Witnesses are the only religion on earth that believes the "wild beast" of the book of Revelation is the United Nations ?
  • Do you think you will remember that JWs alone believe the attack of Babylon the Great in the bible represents the total destruction of all religious organisations on earth and an attempt eventually to destroy that of Jehovah's Witnesses themselves ?
  • What do you think your reaction would be if one day all religions institutons* were abolished?
*individuals remaining free to practice their religion in the privacy of their own homes
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William wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:32 pm
However, knowing this bit is in Revelations, it is going to need a lot of interpretation no matter what you think it's saying.
I don't have an opinion on what I think it is saying.
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Purple Knight wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:47 pm
Are the Jehovah's Witnesses saying that they are "Babylon the Great?"
I'd like to hear the answer to this ...
Babylon the Great is the world empire of FALSE religion. True religion is no part of her (compare Rev 18:4)

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:24 amBabylon the Great is the world empire of FALSE religion. True religion is no part of her (compare Rev 18:4)
So when the Wild Beast (the UN) comes for Babylon the Great, it will attack every religion except JW? I don't see why it would do that. If it did I will be left scratching my head but admitting that you were right far beyond what is likely to happen anyway.

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Purple Knight wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:03 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:24 amBabylon the Great is the world empire of FALSE religion. True religion is no part of her (compare Rev 18:4)
So when the Wild Beast (the UN) comes for Babylon the Great, it will attack every religion except JW? I don't see why it would do that. If it did I will be left scratching my head but admitting that you were right far beyond what is likely to happen anyway.
What Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to see is that they are part of what they believe is False Religion.

They have no history which can be directly traced to something other than what they point fingers at and accuse of being false.

Every bible-based Christian Religion is related, and like all relatives, there is bickering accusation somewhere in the mix.

Perhaps if hypocrisy was an actual recognised sin, folk (in this case Cultured Christians) would think differently about their relationships with one another.

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Purple Knight wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:03 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:24 amBabylon the Great is the world empire of FALSE religion. True religion is no part of her (compare Rev 18:4)
So when the Wild Beast (the UN) comes for Babylon the Great, it will attack every religion except JW?
I did not say that? The question asked was "Are the Jehovah's Witnesses saying that they are "Babylon the Great?" If you are now asking if the UN will make a distinction between true religion and false , the answer is no. They will certainly attack the one true organisation, especially when they see it's the last one standing but what they will not - cannot do - according to scripture, is destroy it.

ISAIAH 54:17

No weapon formed against you will have any success ... This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah

In short, they will think they can destoroy this little scraggerly unprotected "nothing" of a religion , just as they did all the big players and their affiliates. The bible propheys. ..
"9 You will come against them like a storm, and you will cover the land like clouds, you and all your troops and many peoples with you.”’ 10 “This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘In that day thoughts will come into your heart, and you will devise an evil plan. 11 You will say: “I will invade the land of unprotected settlements" - EZEKIEL 38: 9-11
But turning on true religion, they trigger events that bring the governments of the world (and those control them) into direct conflict with the God of the bible who, through Jesus, comes to their defense. Guess who wins...

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William wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:52 amWhat Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to see is that they are part of what they believe is False Religion.
Well, they would have to, if the UN comes for them too, wouldn't they?

So far I've seen the disproportionate attacks on Christianity versus other religions that may (at least, right now) deserve it more, as at least some evidence that corruption - which the world is, and we all sort of understand this - for some odd reason, hates Christians particularly. It may just be that it's easy because Christians turn the other cheek and don't fight back, whereas if you attack a religion that deserves it you might get blown to Kingdom Come. But then why bother? Why attack pacifists who aren't bothering you? It's wasted energy, isn't it?

And then I have to think that I don't entirely know why this happens, so I have to be open to alternative explanations. Of course, it could always be that I'm a rational person and attributing more rationality to others than they have, and they just attack those that don't fight back, wasting their own energy doing so, because they are animals in pursuit of dominance.

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Well, they would have to, if the UN comes for them too, wouldn't they?
WHO.
So far I've seen the disproportionate attacks on Christianity versus other religions that may (at least, right now) deserve it more, as at least some evidence that corruption - which the world is, and we all sort of understand this - for some odd reason, hates Christians particularly.
What evidence do you have to support this claim?

If we sort of understand anything, it is hypocrisy. We know what it is and we now how to find it in others, but do we know how to find it in ourselves and if so, do we know what to do with it?

Perhaps that which hates anything, is that which only sees hypocrisy in others.

It is - in psychological terms - called "projection" and is in many ways, like a mirror. and that which is in the mirror is perceived as "other".
It may just be that it's easy because Christians turn the other cheek and don't fight back, whereas if you attack a religion that deserves it you might get blown to Kingdom Come. But then why bother? Why attack pacifists who aren't bothering you? It's wasted energy, isn't it?
Jehovah's Witnesses used to know on my door and I have invited them in to share their world view and have asked the necessary questions and now Jehovah's Witnesses' do not knock on my door when they are canvassing my street.

I didn't need WHO to tell me how to proceed. Getting rid of religious vendors is unlikely to be on top of any world organisations list of things that need doing and will get done.

If people are forced to go indoors with their religions, how would that change anything anyway?

It is not as if God will punish those who no longer knock on doors because "The Law", is it?
And then I have to think that I don't entirely know why this happens, so I have to be open to alternative explanations. Of course, it could always be that I'm a rational person and attributing more rationality to others than they have, and they just attack those that don't fight back, wasting their own energy doing so, because they are animals in pursuit of dominance.
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Purple Knight wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:03 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:24 amBabylon the Great is the world empire of FALSE religion. True religion is no part of her (compare Rev 18:4)
So when the Wild Beast (the UN) comes for Babylon the Great, it will attack every religion except JW? I don't see why it would do that. If it did I will be left scratching my head but admitting that you were right far beyond what is likely to happen anyway.
It's not that they will not try to come after JWs, it is that JWs will be the last one they will try to dismantle with possibly drastic measures. Unlike the other religions that will be easily taken apart, JWs will devotedly keep their way of worship. JWs will also have a message that will target all the nations of the earth that their judgement is near. This will not sit well with the nations and will prompt them to come after JWs. That is when Jehovah God will intervene. This will be the start of the final war between the nations and God himself. Armageddon.

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2timothy316 wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:44 am It's not that they will not try to come after JWs, it is that JWs will be the last one they will try to dismantle with possibly drastic measures. Unlike the other religions that will be easily taken apart, JWs will devotedly keep their way of worship. JWs will also have a message that will target all the nations of the earth that their judgement is near. This will not sit well with the nations and will prompt them to come after JWs. That is when Jehovah God will intervene. This will be the start of the final war between the nations and God himself. Armageddon.
"We will be the last religion standing."

Okay that's massively predictive. It's not likely to happen anyway. This is what rational people want: What we can test.

If this happens I'll be very happy in the meantime because Christians really don't bother anybody anymore whereas some other religions actually make the world less safe.

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Purple Knight wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:40 pm
2timothy316 wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:44 am It's not that they will not try to come after JWs, it is that JWs will be the last one they will try to dismantle with possibly drastic measures. Unlike the other religions that will be easily taken apart, JWs will devotedly keep their way of worship. JWs will also have a message that will target all the nations of the earth that their judgement is near. This will not sit well with the nations and will prompt them to come after JWs. That is when Jehovah God will intervene. This will be the start of the final war between the nations and God himself. Armageddon.
"We will be the last religion standing."

Okay that's massively predictive. It's not likely to happen anyway. This is what rational people want: What we can test.

If this happens I'll be very happy ...
If this happens the thing to do will be recognise bible prophecy being fulfilled and quickly take a position on the winning side. Only by taking a position with this last group of Christian, even though they have become the target of global attack and annihilation, can divine protection be expected.

There will be no fence from which causal observation will be made in this final showdown.
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