Concerning Jesus return

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The following question is difficult for me to ask because of a hundred little details connected to it.  
I believe the time of Jesus' return has been hidden in the book of Daniel and Hosea for several thousand years and is only now to be revealed.

I believe Jesus Christ is the God of Genesis 1:1, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” To support that I use the following.
Jesus said in Revelation 1:8, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, said the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty.”

Hebrews 1:10 states that he laid the foundation of the earth and heavens.

Colossians 1:16, "By him were all things created." With that said, we know without doubt that Jesus Christ is God.

Philippians 2:7-8, tells us He had taken on “the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man. And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself --.” With Hebrews 2:9, he “was made a little lower than the angels--.”
But after his resurrection, he was given the glory he had with the Father before the world was, John 17:5. God is said to be all-knowing, yet in Mark 14:32, Jesus said concerning his return, “Of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.”

Because God is all-knowing, it appears his words limit his understanding. So, my question is, did this change after his resurrection? Did he again receive the glory he once had, ‘all-knowing?’ John 17:5. After he was taken into heaven, the Father gave him the Holy Spirit. Jesus then sent him to us. Nothing in scripture tells us the Holy Spirit did not have this information. If he does, are any new revelations ready to be made known? Or has the whole story been told?

[JehovahsWitness]

I believe the time of Jesus' return has been hidden in the book of Daniel and Hosea for several thousand years and is only now to be revealed.

Jesus indicated it would not be possible for any human to calculate the exact date of his return before it happens.

ACTS 1:6, 7

So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” 7 He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction.

MATTHEW 24:42

Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

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[JehovahsWitness]

Did he again receive the glory he once had, ‘all-knowing?’

There is no scripture which says the Son is or has ever been, ‘all-knowing.

JOHN 5:19

Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also in like manner.

Jesus probably now knows when to return, not because he has become all-knowing (like his Father) but because the Father has probably told him



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[1213]

Colossians 1:16, "By him were all things created." With that said, we know without doubt that Jesus Christ is God.

Actually it says: "through him, and for him, have been created," Colossians 1:16. In Biblical point of view, God works through Jesus. And Jesus himself says:

I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous; because I don’t seek my own will, but the will of my Father who sent me.
John 5:30

Philippians 2:7-8, tells us He had taken on “the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man. And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself --.” With Hebrews 2:9, he “was made a little lower than the angels--.”

I think it is good to remember also this:

For, "He [Go] put all things in subjection under his feet." But when he says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him. When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.
1 Cor. 15:27-28

God is the greatest, greater than Jesus also, as Jesus says:

the Father is greater than I.
John 14:28

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[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #2]

Thanks for your comments J.W. servant. Question, are you a Witness?

[placebofactor]

Colossians 1:16, "By him were all things created." With that said, we know without doubt that Jesus Christ is God.

Actually it says: "through him, and for him, have been created," Colossians 1:16. In Biblical point of view, God works through Jesus. And Jesus himself says:

Good morning: "The verse I quoted is from the K.J.B.

I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous; because I don’t seek my own will, but the will of my Father who sent me.

I agree: The verse you quote is before Jesus was resurrected, but my question was, once Jesus received the glory he once had (after his resurrection) was his return made known to us by the coming of the Holy Spirit? This is an important question for me. Why? Because I love to study prophecy, especially in Daniel and Hosea. I do believe there are details in Daniel and Hosea when examined closely will reveal certain details; details that are now only being understood. Let me give you an example. For centuries a large part of the Christian audience was taught that God was done with Israel for many reasons. One is, that Israel did not exist, that is until May 14, 1948. That's when a great deal of thinking changed because it had to. The generation that lives in Israel today is 76 years old. We should all be asking, is this the generation Matthew 24:34 is speaking of?

Well anyway, thanks for your response.

[onewithhim]

The following question is difficult for me to ask because of a hundred little details connected to it.  
I believe the time of Jesus' return has been hidden in the book of Daniel and Hosea for several thousand years and is only now to be revealed.

I believe Jesus Christ is the God of Genesis 1:1, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” To support that I use the following.
Jesus said in Revelation 1:8, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, said the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty.”

Hebrews 1:10 states that he laid the foundation of the earth and heavens.

Colossians 1:16, "By him were all things created." With that said, we know without doubt that Jesus Christ is God.

Philippians 2:7-8, tells us He had taken on “the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man. And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself --.” With Hebrews 2:9, he “was made a little lower than the angels--.”
But after his resurrection, he was given the glory he had with the Father before the world was, John 17:5. God is said to be all-knowing, yet in Mark 14:32, Jesus said concerning his return, “Of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.”

Because God is all-knowing, it appears his words limit his understanding. So, my question is, did this change after his resurrection? Did he again receive the glory he once had, ‘all-knowing?’ John 17:5. After he was taken into heaven, the Father gave him the Holy Spirit. Jesus then sent him to us. Nothing in scripture tells us the Holy Spirit did not have this information. If he does, are any new revelations ready to be made known? Or has the whole story been told?

You missed our extensive discussion about the Alpha and Omega. It is the Father who is the Alpha and Omega, and only He is the Almighty. He can't die, and yet Jesus died. It is clear that Jesus is not God but does everything that God instructs him to do. If Jesus was God, he would always have the information concerning when the end would come. Yes, all things were created by Jesus, but he was using the Father's power and what the Father told him about what the creation should be. The creation was through Jesus, but was powered by the Father.

"For us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through him." (I Corinthians 8:6, NASB)

"Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of himself, unless it is something he sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.'" (John 5:19, NASB)

So, according to Jesus' own words, he gets instructions from the Father on what to do and how to do it. He is not God Almighty.

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[Replying to onewithhim in post #7]

onewithhim thanks for your comments. You wrote, "You missed our extensive discussion about the Alpha and Omega."

Before we begin, would you please quote exactly from the Bible you're using the following two verses.

Revelation 1:1

And Revelation 1:8, then I will know better how to discuss this matter with you.

[1213]

...Because I love to study prophecy, especially in Daniel and Hosea. I do believe there are details in Daniel and Hosea when examined closely will reveal certain details; details that are now only being understood. Let me give you an example. For centuries a large part of the Christian audience was taught that God was done with Israel for many reasons. One is, that Israel did not exist, that is until May 14, 1948. That's when a great deal of thinking changed because it had to. The generation that lives in Israel today is 76 years old. We should all be asking, is this the generation Matthew 24:34 is speaking of?
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Ok, thank you. It is interesting question. But, maybe it is something that we are not to know, because:

It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Acts 1:7
Because of this, you also be ready, for in that hour you think not, the Son of man comes.
Matt. 24:44

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[Replying to 1213 in post #9]

1213, thanks for your comments.
Concerning Acts 1:7, I find it interesting that the Lord did not answer the apostle's question. He shifted the emphasis from speculation of the future to demonstration in the present. What they were interested in was, returning to Israel's past glory, the glory days of David and Solomon, for us, we call it, the "Good old days." We Christians speculate about our future and the future of America and spend little time (except for our bills) thinking about the present. But Jesus was thinking much differently than his disciples when he shifted the emphasis to the present. Now was the time for them to demonstrate the power of God. The time had come for them to demonstrate to the world what God can do when he works in those who trust him.

I'm an old man now, but I still dream of returning to the best years of my life, the 50s, 60s, and 70s. But I can't set the clock back, yet I can bring back the many good memories. But the truth and reality are, my work today is to inform or possibly transform the present by expounding to others the promises and blessings the Lord left for us.

Concerning Matthew 24:44, yes, we are always to be ready. But I'm far more curious than that. I believe the Lord has left for us in Daniel, Hosea, Matthew, and Revelation, clues, clues that can only now be understood. In Matthew 24:37, we read about Noah. He was warned 120 years before the flood of this coming disaster. By faith, he built an ark because he trusted God. When the 120 years came, he was told 7 more days would pass before the rains came. So he entered into the ark, and waited for the Lord to seal the door.

We find a series of numbers in Daniel and Hosea I find interesting. They are 1290, 1335 = 2625. In Hosea, he mentions two days, to be followed by a third day. Until history fulfilled these clues or the greater part of them, there was no way to understand them. Matthew speaks of a generation that will not pass away. Is the generation that now lives in Israel that generation? If it is, it is now 76 years old. If this is correct, then the numbers in Daniel and Hosea can be applied to that fact. Also, the number 666 I find interesting. Anyway, that is the reason for my post, "curiosity."

Walt Disney wrote, "We keep moving forward, opening new doors, and doing new things because we're curious and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths."