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Every bible scholar on earth knows 100% that God put his name --( YHVH(Jehovah) = the tetragramoton) in his bible in over 7000 spots because God wants it there. Thus wicked men by satans will removed Gods name to mislead and replaced it in OT( nearly 6800 spots) with GOD or LORD all capitols--quoted in NT over 200 spots where God willed his name.
Now in light of Jesus, who at the Lords prayer has clearly shown to all that his Fathers name( YHVH(Jehovah) is the #1 most important thing, followed by his Fathers kingdom and will. Thus to a true follower Gods name is #1 most important issue.
So then one must ask why is my religion using altered translations in support of satans will over Gods will on the matter of his name belonging in his bible? Would you say to mislead is the answer? Yes it is.
Here is a prime example of the misleading that it does
Joel 2:21-22--Whoever calls on the name of YHVH(Jehovah) will be saved---quoted 2 x in the NT at Acts 2:21-22--Romans 10:13--But since satan willed translations have LORD at Joel, Lord is at both spots of NT, and all who know Jesus is Lord will call on his name in error because they are being mislead. God is not called LORD in the OT by his will, his name belongs there. it is causing major confusion.
The New world translation corrected that matter, yet every religion using the altered translations condemned the NWT. Why because with that name back in it exposes all of those ones using the altered translations as false religion.
The sad fact is that they know Gods name belongs in all of those spots. So what are you going to do about being mislead?

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Re: Gods name

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Capbook wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:23 pmDo you mean the word "demi-god" in the Bible?
I do always rely of what is written in the Bible.
Do you consider god the one that God commune in Job 2?
I'm not clear on what you're trying to ask. My reading of the representative text for θεότητος is that as long as the subject is supernaturally of the realm of the gods (or of God), then θεότητος applies. You can read that yourself to mean that the only Christian things that are θεότητος are the members of the Godhead, but I don't see that as required by the definition. Within Christian mythology/theology, I think that angels would properly fit the definition of θεότητος as the word was used by readers and writers of Greek. Whether or not that's what the author actually intended, what that means for you is that any translation narrower than the English word "divine" is necessarily imposing one's theology onto the text in a bout, as it were, of the much maligned eisegesis.

As far as Job and the "us" and Genesis, Job 2 describes the "sons of the gods" (בְּנֵ֣י הָֽאֱלֹהִ֔ים) as appearing before Yahweh. In Hebrew idiom, "children of [whatever]" just means members of that set. "A son of man" or "sons of men" just means one or more human beings. "Sons of gods" means divine beings. That's traditionally translated as "angels," but there's nothing imposing that particular reading on the text. I think the phrase here means the council of gods that are subordinate to Yahweh, similar to those in Genesis 6:2: "And sons of the gods (בְנֵי הָֽאֱלֹהִים֙ again) saw beautiful daughters of the men (בְּנֹ֣ות הָֽאָדָ֔ם)."
My pronouns are he, him, and his.

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Re: Gods name

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Capbook wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:17 pm
Difflugia wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:02 amI just believe you really don't know about lexicon.
The word θεότης just means divinity in a broad sense.
Yes, divinity as a state of being divine also support my stand, Strong define "divine" in Greek "theios" in (2 Pet1:3,4) as Godhead, Godlike and divine.
And even Apostolic Bible Polyglot uses "deity" in that verse but Thayer lexicon define it the same, "the state of being God, and Godhead."

Strong θεῖος theios
thi'-os
From G2316; godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): - divine, godhead.

Col 2:9 For G3754  in G1722  him G1473  dwells G2730  all G3956  the G3588  fullness G4138  of the G3588  deity G2320  bodily. G4985 

θεότης theotēs
Thayer Definition:
1) deity
1a) the state of being God, Godhead

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue.
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust
"Divine" does not mean God. It is "from God or like God or a god." (Illustrated Oxford Dictionary)

As you indicate yourself, Jesus reflects the diety bodily. The diety is the Father, Jehovah. Jesus is the Father's reflection or image, that is why it is said that "in him dwells all the fullness of the deity bodily."

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onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:59 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:17 pm
Difflugia wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:02 amI just believe you really don't know about lexicon.
The word θεότης just means divinity in a broad sense.
Yes, divinity as a state of being divine also support my stand, Strong define "divine" in Greek "theios" in (2 Pet1:3,4) as Godhead, Godlike and divine.
And even Apostolic Bible Polyglot uses "deity" in that verse but Thayer lexicon define it the same, "the state of being God, and Godhead."

Strong θεῖος theios
thi'-os
From G2316; godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): - divine, godhead.

Col 2:9 For G3754  in G1722  him G1473  dwells G2730  all G3956  the G3588  fullness G4138  of the G3588  deity G2320  bodily. G4985 

θεότης theotēs
Thayer Definition:
1) deity
1a) the state of being God, Godhead

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue.
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust
"Divine" does not mean God. It is "from God or like God or a god." (Illustrated Oxford Dictionary)

As you indicate yourself, Jesus reflects the diety bodily. The diety is the Father, Jehovah. Jesus is the Father's reflection or image, that is why it is said that "in him dwells all the fullness of the deity bodily."
Why Oxford Dictionary? Why not lexicon that define Bible word?
Lexicon define "deity" the state of being God, Godhead.
And in original Greek of Col 2:9, Godhead is there, I colored red.

Col 2:9 For G3754  in G1722  him G846  dwelleth G2730  all G3956  the G3588  fulness G4138  of the G3588  Godhead G2320  bodily. G4985

Col 2:9 οτι G3754 CONJ  εν G1722 PREP  αυτω G846 P-DSM  κατοικει G2730 V-PAI-3S  παν G3956 A-NSN  το G3588 T-NSN  πληρωμα G4138 N-NSN  της G3588 T-GSF  θεοτητος G2320 N-GSF  σωματικως G4985 ADV

Col 2:9 ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ κατοικεῖ πᾶν τὸ πλήρωμα τῆς θεότητος σωματικῶς,

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Re: Gods name

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Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:39 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:59 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:17 pm
Difflugia wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:02 amI just believe you really don't know about lexicon.
The word θεότης just means divinity in a broad sense.
Yes, divinity as a state of being divine also support my stand, Strong define "divine" in Greek "theios" in (2 Pet1:3,4) as Godhead, Godlike and divine.
And even Apostolic Bible Polyglot uses "deity" in that verse but Thayer lexicon define it the same, "the state of being God, and Godhead."

Strong θεῖος theios
thi'-os
From G2316; godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): - divine, godhead.

Col 2:9 For G3754  in G1722  him G1473  dwells G2730  all G3956  the G3588  fullness G4138  of the G3588  deity G2320  bodily. G4985 

θεότης theotēs
Thayer Definition:
1) deity
1a) the state of being God, Godhead

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue.
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust
"Divine" does not mean God. It is "from God or like God or a god." (Illustrated Oxford Dictionary)

As you indicate yourself, Jesus reflects the diety bodily. The diety is the Father, Jehovah. Jesus is the Father's reflection or image, that is why it is said that "in him dwells all the fullness of the deity bodily."
Why Oxford Dictionary? Why not lexicon that define Bible word?
Lexicon define "deity" the state of being God, Godhead.
And in original Greek of Col 2:9, Godhead is there, I colored red.
Yes, Jesus reflects the diety, that is he reflects God, the Father.

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Re: Gods name

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onewithhim wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:56 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:39 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:59 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:17 pm
Difflugia wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:02 amI just believe you really don't know about lexicon.
The word θεότης just means divinity in a broad sense.
Yes, divinity as a state of being divine also support my stand, Strong define "divine" in Greek "theios" in (2 Pet1:3,4) as Godhead, Godlike and divine.
And even Apostolic Bible Polyglot uses "deity" in that verse but Thayer lexicon define it the same, "the state of being God, and Godhead."

Strong θεῖος theios
thi'-os
From G2316; godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): - divine, godhead.

Col 2:9 For G3754  in G1722  him G1473  dwells G2730  all G3956  the G3588  fullness G4138  of the G3588  deity G2320  bodily. G4985 

θεότης theotēs
Thayer Definition:
1) deity
1a) the state of being God, Godhead

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue.
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust
"Divine" does not mean God. It is "from God or like God or a god." (Illustrated Oxford Dictionary)

As you indicate yourself, Jesus reflects the diety bodily. The diety is the Father, Jehovah. Jesus is the Father's reflection or image, that is why it is said that "in him dwells all the fullness of the deity bodily."
Why Oxford Dictionary? Why not lexicon that define Bible word?
Lexicon define "deity" the state of being God, Godhead.
And in original Greek of Col 2:9, Godhead is there, I colored red.
Yes, Jesus reflects the diety, that is he reflects God, the Father.
Jesus does not reflects God, there is no word "reflects" in the Bible, because He is one in the state of God with the Father.
He has His own glory whom with the Father.

Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

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Re: Gods name

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Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:15 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:56 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:39 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:59 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:17 pm
Difflugia wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:02 amI just believe you really don't know about lexicon.
The word θεότης just means divinity in a broad sense.
Yes, divinity as a state of being divine also support my stand, Strong define "divine" in Greek "theios" in (2 Pet1:3,4) as Godhead, Godlike and divine.
And even Apostolic Bible Polyglot uses "deity" in that verse but Thayer lexicon define it the same, "the state of being God, and Godhead."

Strong θεῖος theios
thi'-os
From G2316; godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): - divine, godhead.

Col 2:9 For G3754  in G1722  him G1473  dwells G2730  all G3956  the G3588  fullness G4138  of the G3588  deity G2320  bodily. G4985 

θεότης theotēs
Thayer Definition:
1) deity
1a) the state of being God, Godhead

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue.
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust
"Divine" does not mean God. It is "from God or like God or a god." (Illustrated Oxford Dictionary)

As you indicate yourself, Jesus reflects the diety bodily. The diety is the Father, Jehovah. Jesus is the Father's reflection or image, that is why it is said that "in him dwells all the fullness of the deity bodily."
Why Oxford Dictionary? Why not lexicon that define Bible word?
Lexicon define "deity" the state of being God, Godhead.
And in original Greek of Col 2:9, Godhead is there, I colored red.
Yes, Jesus reflects the diety, that is he reflects God, the Father.
Jesus does not reflects God, there is no word "reflects" in the Bible, because He is one in the state of God with the Father.
He has His own glory whom with the Father.

Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
When you look into a mirror what do you see? Your image, right? (Colossians 1:15) Your image is a reflection of yourself, is it not? Now, an image or a reflection is not the thing that is the origin of the image. It is merely a reflection.

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onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:05 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:15 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:56 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:39 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:59 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:17 pm
Difflugia wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:02 amI just believe you really don't know about lexicon.
The word θεότης just means divinity in a broad sense.
Yes, divinity as a state of being divine also support my stand, Strong define "divine" in Greek "theios" in (2 Pet1:3,4) as Godhead, Godlike and divine.
And even Apostolic Bible Polyglot uses "deity" in that verse but Thayer lexicon define it the same, "the state of being God, and Godhead."

Strong θεῖος theios
thi'-os
From G2316; godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): - divine, godhead.

Col 2:9 For G3754  in G1722  him G1473  dwells G2730  all G3956  the G3588  fullness G4138  of the G3588  deity G2320  bodily. G4985 

θεότης theotēs
Thayer Definition:
1) deity
1a) the state of being God, Godhead

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue.
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust
"Divine" does not mean God. It is "from God or like God or a god." (Illustrated Oxford Dictionary)

As you indicate yourself, Jesus reflects the diety bodily. The diety is the Father, Jehovah. Jesus is the Father's reflection or image, that is why it is said that "in him dwells all the fullness of the deity bodily."
Why Oxford Dictionary? Why not lexicon that define Bible word?
Lexicon define "deity" the state of being God, Godhead.
And in original Greek of Col 2:9, Godhead is there, I colored red.
Yes, Jesus reflects the diety, that is he reflects God, the Father.
Jesus does not reflects God, there is no word "reflects" in the Bible, because He is one in the state of God with the Father.
He has His own glory whom with the Father.

Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
When you look into a mirror what do you see? Your image, right? (Colossians 1:15) Your image is a reflection of yourself, is it not? Now, an image or a reflection is not the thing that is the origin of the image. It is merely a reflection.
Do you mean that what you see in the mirror is yourself or not?
As Jesus as the refection of the Father, what you see in the mirror is Jesus Himself or not?

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Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:35 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:05 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:15 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:56 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:39 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:59 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:17 pm
Difflugia wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:02 amI just believe you really don't know about lexicon.
The word θεότης just means divinity in a broad sense.
Yes, divinity as a state of being divine also support my stand, Strong define "divine" in Greek "theios" in (2 Pet1:3,4) as Godhead, Godlike and divine.
And even Apostolic Bible Polyglot uses "deity" in that verse but Thayer lexicon define it the same, "the state of being God, and Godhead."

Strong θεῖος theios
thi'-os
From G2316; godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): - divine, godhead.

Col 2:9 For G3754  in G1722  him G1473  dwells G2730  all G3956  the G3588  fullness G4138  of the G3588  deity G2320  bodily. G4985 

θεότης theotēs
Thayer Definition:
1) deity
1a) the state of being God, Godhead

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue.
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust
"Divine" does not mean God. It is "from God or like God or a god." (Illustrated Oxford Dictionary)

As you indicate yourself, Jesus reflects the diety bodily. The diety is the Father, Jehovah. Jesus is the Father's reflection or image, that is why it is said that "in him dwells all the fullness of the deity bodily."
Why Oxford Dictionary? Why not lexicon that define Bible word?
Lexicon define "deity" the state of being God, Godhead.
And in original Greek of Col 2:9, Godhead is there, I colored red.
Yes, Jesus reflects the diety, that is he reflects God, the Father.
Jesus does not reflects God, there is no word "reflects" in the Bible, because He is one in the state of God with the Father.
He has His own glory whom with the Father.

Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
When you look into a mirror what do you see? Your image, right? (Colossians 1:15) Your image is a reflection of yourself, is it not? Now, an image or a reflection is not the thing that is the origin of the image. It is merely a reflection.
Do you mean that what you see in the mirror is yourself or not?
As Jesus as the refection of the Father, what you see in the mirror is Jesus Himself or not?
Jehovah is in front of the mirror. His reflection is Jesus. Jesus represents Jehovah though he is not Jehovah. He is the image of God, not God.

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onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:05 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:35 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:05 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:15 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:56 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:39 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:59 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:17 pm
Difflugia wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:14 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:02 amI just believe you really don't know about lexicon.
The word θεότης just means divinity in a broad sense.
Yes, divinity as a state of being divine also support my stand, Strong define "divine" in Greek "theios" in (2 Pet1:3,4) as Godhead, Godlike and divine.
And even Apostolic Bible Polyglot uses "deity" in that verse but Thayer lexicon define it the same, "the state of being God, and Godhead."

Strong θεῖος theios
thi'-os
From G2316; godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): - divine, godhead.

Col 2:9 For G3754  in G1722  him G1473  dwells G2730  all G3956  the G3588  fullness G4138  of the G3588  deity G2320  bodily. G4985 

θεότης theotēs
Thayer Definition:
1) deity
1a) the state of being God, Godhead

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue.
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust
"Divine" does not mean God. It is "from God or like God or a god." (Illustrated Oxford Dictionary)

As you indicate yourself, Jesus reflects the diety bodily. The diety is the Father, Jehovah. Jesus is the Father's reflection or image, that is why it is said that "in him dwells all the fullness of the deity bodily."
Why Oxford Dictionary? Why not lexicon that define Bible word?
Lexicon define "deity" the state of being God, Godhead.
And in original Greek of Col 2:9, Godhead is there, I colored red.
Yes, Jesus reflects the diety, that is he reflects God, the Father.
Jesus does not reflects God, there is no word "reflects" in the Bible, because He is one in the state of God with the Father.
He has His own glory whom with the Father.

Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
When you look into a mirror what do you see? Your image, right? (Colossians 1:15) Your image is a reflection of yourself, is it not? Now, an image or a reflection is not the thing that is the origin of the image. It is merely a reflection.
Do you mean that what you see in the mirror is yourself or not?
As Jesus as the refection of the Father, what you see in the mirror is Jesus Himself or not?
Jehovah is in front of the mirror. His reflection is Jesus. Jesus represents Jehovah though he is not Jehovah. He is the image of God, not God.
Do you mean that when you are in front of the mirror, the reflection is not yourself?

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Capbook wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:20 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:05 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 3:35 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:05 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:15 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:56 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:39 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:59 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:17 pm
Difflugia wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:14 pm
The word θεότης just means divinity in a broad sense.
Yes, divinity as a state of being divine also support my stand, Strong define "divine" in Greek "theios" in (2 Pet1:3,4) as Godhead, Godlike and divine.
And even Apostolic Bible Polyglot uses "deity" in that verse but Thayer lexicon define it the same, "the state of being God, and Godhead."

Strong θεῖος theios
thi'-os
From G2316; godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): - divine, godhead.

Col 2:9 For G3754  in G1722  him G1473  dwells G2730  all G3956  the G3588  fullness G4138  of the G3588  deity G2320  bodily. G4985 

θεότης theotēs
Thayer Definition:
1) deity
1a) the state of being God, Godhead

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue.
2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust
"Divine" does not mean God. It is "from God or like God or a god." (Illustrated Oxford Dictionary)

As you indicate yourself, Jesus reflects the diety bodily. The diety is the Father, Jehovah. Jesus is the Father's reflection or image, that is why it is said that "in him dwells all the fullness of the deity bodily."
Why Oxford Dictionary? Why not lexicon that define Bible word?
Lexicon define "deity" the state of being God, Godhead.
And in original Greek of Col 2:9, Godhead is there, I colored red.
Yes, Jesus reflects the diety, that is he reflects God, the Father.
Jesus does not reflects God, there is no word "reflects" in the Bible, because He is one in the state of God with the Father.
He has His own glory whom with the Father.

Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
When you look into a mirror what do you see? Your image, right? (Colossians 1:15) Your image is a reflection of yourself, is it not? Now, an image or a reflection is not the thing that is the origin of the image. It is merely a reflection.
Do you mean that what you see in the mirror is yourself or not?
As Jesus as the refection of the Father, what you see in the mirror is Jesus Himself or not?
Jehovah is in front of the mirror. His reflection is Jesus. Jesus represents Jehovah though he is not Jehovah. He is the image of God, not God.
Do you mean that when you are in front of the mirror, the reflection is not yourself?
Of course the reflection is of yourself, but that reflection is not you.

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