To all true Christians there is nothing more important to our salvation than "The Atonement of Jesus Christ".
Having said that, is it not therefore extremely important to every individual to understand fully what and how the atonement works for our benefit?
What does the atonement do or does not do?
What is required on our part to receive the full benefits of the atonement?
What and when and by whom did the atonement begin?
Can anyone clearly show all scriptures pertaining to the atonement?
I look forward to hearing your "take" on this most important topic.
Kind regards,
RW
The Atonement
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Re: The Atonement
Post #1251The accomplishments of Christ death !2
He gives them Sanctification ! Heb 10:10
By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
The writer here says that the believers were sanctified through, by means of, on account of, the offering body of Christ, which simply means His death. Permanent Sanctification is effected for every sinner Christ died for. That means they are born already having been set apart for the Holy Service of God, even though they are as others , born sinners by nature Eph 2:1-3, they still have been sanctified by the death of Christ. Its like Jeremiah, He was sanctified by the purpose of God to be a prophet, before He was born Jer 1:5
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
However that didnt prevent him from being born like all sinners by nature Eph 2:1-3
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Paul said he was like that when born a sinner, does he not apply Eph 2:3 to himself, for he uses the pronoun WE ? Yet instill he knows that he was set apart from his mothers womb Gal 1:15
But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
The word separated here means:
to appoint, set apart for some purpose
And so it is with every sinner Christ died for, His death sanctified them to the holy purpose of God, regardless of what they are by nature ! 57
He gives them Sanctification ! Heb 10:10
By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
The writer here says that the believers were sanctified through, by means of, on account of, the offering body of Christ, which simply means His death. Permanent Sanctification is effected for every sinner Christ died for. That means they are born already having been set apart for the Holy Service of God, even though they are as others , born sinners by nature Eph 2:1-3, they still have been sanctified by the death of Christ. Its like Jeremiah, He was sanctified by the purpose of God to be a prophet, before He was born Jer 1:5
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
However that didnt prevent him from being born like all sinners by nature Eph 2:1-3
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Paul said he was like that when born a sinner, does he not apply Eph 2:3 to himself, for he uses the pronoun WE ? Yet instill he knows that he was set apart from his mothers womb Gal 1:15
But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
The word separated here means:
to appoint, set apart for some purpose
And so it is with every sinner Christ died for, His death sanctified them to the holy purpose of God, regardless of what they are by nature ! 57
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Re: The Atonement
Post #1252The accomplishments of Christ death !3
It gives the both Faith and Repentance, Jesus as a Saviour gives Repentance Acts 5:31
Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
Israel here is His Chosen People from amongst all peoples and ethnicities. Thats why its stated that He has granted repentance to the gentiles Acts 11:18
When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
Then also it provides or gives Faith by Christ being a Saviour 2 Pet 1:1
Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
These things are accomplishments through the Work of Christ for all whom He died ! Else He wasnt their Saviour !
It gives the both Faith and Repentance, Jesus as a Saviour gives Repentance Acts 5:31
Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
Israel here is His Chosen People from amongst all peoples and ethnicities. Thats why its stated that He has granted repentance to the gentiles Acts 11:18
When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
Then also it provides or gives Faith by Christ being a Saviour 2 Pet 1:1
Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
These things are accomplishments through the Work of Christ for all whom He died ! Else He wasnt their Saviour !
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Re: The Atonement
Post #12534 Things every sinner Christ died for are delivered from !
Inspite of the adversaries of truth, who would deprive Christ of His Glory for what He accomplished for chosen sinners, solely by His death alone, we have at least 4 things all sinners He died for are delivered from forever !
#1. All sinners Christ died for are delivered from the guilt and penalty of sin before God by His death alone ! Heb 1:3
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
This scripture proves that those Christ died for have had their sins purged . Now the word purged in the greek is katharismos and means:
cleansing, purifying, purification, literal, ceremonial, or moral; met: expiation.
purification, which results from God removing undesirable admixtures (eliminating impurities)
a cleansing from the guilt of sins by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ
This is a deliverance from the guilt of their sins ! This automatically means they can never die in their sins as those in Jn 8:24 ! To die in their sins means they are guilty of them before Gods Law and Justice, which cannot be the case for them Christ died for and provided before Gods Law and Justice, purification of their sins !
And consequently, wheres theres no guilt for sin, there can be no penalty for the same !
Now those Christ died for, He shed His blood for Matt 26:28
For this is my blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
The shedding of His Blood provided before Gods law and Justice, the remission of sins for the many. The word remission, the greek word aphesis means:
deliverance, pardon, complete forgiveness ,a sending away, a letting go, a release, pardon, complete forgiveness.
859 áphesis (from 863 /aphíēmi, "send away, forgive" ) – properly, "something sent away"; i.e. remission ("forgiveness"), releasing someone from obligation or debt.
remission of their penalty:
Which penalty is death Rom 6:23 ! So for instance, those we read about here Rev 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
None of these sinners can be sinners Christ died for because He had delivered them through His Blood from the penalty of sin, which is death ! This also proves limited atonement, for if Christ had died for any of these that shall have part of the second death, it makes His Blood a Lie, His death a lie ! 57
Inspite of the adversaries of truth, who would deprive Christ of His Glory for what He accomplished for chosen sinners, solely by His death alone, we have at least 4 things all sinners He died for are delivered from forever !
#1. All sinners Christ died for are delivered from the guilt and penalty of sin before God by His death alone ! Heb 1:3
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
This scripture proves that those Christ died for have had their sins purged . Now the word purged in the greek is katharismos and means:
cleansing, purifying, purification, literal, ceremonial, or moral; met: expiation.
purification, which results from God removing undesirable admixtures (eliminating impurities)
a cleansing from the guilt of sins by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ
This is a deliverance from the guilt of their sins ! This automatically means they can never die in their sins as those in Jn 8:24 ! To die in their sins means they are guilty of them before Gods Law and Justice, which cannot be the case for them Christ died for and provided before Gods Law and Justice, purification of their sins !
And consequently, wheres theres no guilt for sin, there can be no penalty for the same !
Now those Christ died for, He shed His blood for Matt 26:28
For this is my blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
The shedding of His Blood provided before Gods law and Justice, the remission of sins for the many. The word remission, the greek word aphesis means:
deliverance, pardon, complete forgiveness ,a sending away, a letting go, a release, pardon, complete forgiveness.
859 áphesis (from 863 /aphíēmi, "send away, forgive" ) – properly, "something sent away"; i.e. remission ("forgiveness"), releasing someone from obligation or debt.
remission of their penalty:
Which penalty is death Rom 6:23 ! So for instance, those we read about here Rev 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
None of these sinners can be sinners Christ died for because He had delivered them through His Blood from the penalty of sin, which is death ! This also proves limited atonement, for if Christ had died for any of these that shall have part of the second death, it makes His Blood a Lie, His death a lie ! 57
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Post #12544 Things every sinner Christ died for are delivered from !
#2 Those Christ died for were solely by His death delivered from the curse and damnation and damnation of the Law Gal 3:13
Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree:
They were delivered from the curse of the law, simply by Christ being made a curse for them, again referring to His death alone !
#2 Those Christ died for were solely by His death delivered from the curse and damnation and damnation of the Law Gal 3:13
Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree:
They were delivered from the curse of the law, simply by Christ being made a curse for them, again referring to His death alone !
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Post #12554 Things every sinner Christ died for are delivered from !
#3. The third thing the death of Christ alone delivered them He died for from, the Wrath of God !
1 Thess 1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
His being raised from the dead, after having dying for our sins, signaled our being delivered from the wrath to come. Thats the day of wrath which is meant here Rev 6:16-17
and said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Job 21:30
That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.
Those of us He died for shall be saved from wrath Rom 5:9
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
#3. The third thing the death of Christ alone delivered them He died for from, the Wrath of God !
1 Thess 1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
His being raised from the dead, after having dying for our sins, signaled our being delivered from the wrath to come. Thats the day of wrath which is meant here Rev 6:16-17
and said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Job 21:30
That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.
Those of us He died for shall be saved from wrath Rom 5:9
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
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Post #12564 Things every sinner Christ died for are delivered from !
#4.The fourth thing the death of Christ alone delivered those He died for from is death, and that means death in all of its meanings found in the scripture. However one aspect of death God has permitted for a while according to His purpose, and that is physical death, but yet for the saints, them Christ died for, even it has been become a blessing, for unto them, as Paul once wrote, absent from the body, via physical death is to be present with the Lord 2 Cor 5:6,8
Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord
we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord
Paul calls it gain Phil 1:21
For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.
However theres a time coming , maybe sooner than later now, when even physical death shall come to nought, and some for whom Christ died shall not experience it, it is that Mystery Paul writes of here 1 Cor 15:51
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
Let me tell you a secret. Not all of us will die, but all of us will be changed— ISV
However Christ for them He died did abolish death 2 Tim 1:10
But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
Understand something, Jesus is not your Saviour if He did not for you abolish death ! He appeared once for them He saved to put away sin for them Heb 9:26
For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
And consequently, by putting away sin, He put away the consequences of sin, death, for death is but the wages of sin Rom 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. And this by His death alone, He delivered us He died for from death ! 57
#4.The fourth thing the death of Christ alone delivered those He died for from is death, and that means death in all of its meanings found in the scripture. However one aspect of death God has permitted for a while according to His purpose, and that is physical death, but yet for the saints, them Christ died for, even it has been become a blessing, for unto them, as Paul once wrote, absent from the body, via physical death is to be present with the Lord 2 Cor 5:6,8
Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord
we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord
Paul calls it gain Phil 1:21
For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.
However theres a time coming , maybe sooner than later now, when even physical death shall come to nought, and some for whom Christ died shall not experience it, it is that Mystery Paul writes of here 1 Cor 15:51
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
Let me tell you a secret. Not all of us will die, but all of us will be changed— ISV
However Christ for them He died did abolish death 2 Tim 1:10
But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
Understand something, Jesus is not your Saviour if He did not for you abolish death ! He appeared once for them He saved to put away sin for them Heb 9:26
For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
And consequently, by putting away sin, He put away the consequences of sin, death, for death is but the wages of sin Rom 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. And this by His death alone, He delivered us He died for from death ! 57
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Post #1257Sanctified by the Will of God
Many today in mans religion are wilfully unaware of this Gospel fact, that those sinners Christ died for, are by His Death, and by the Will of God, Sanctified once for all.
Heb 10:5-10
Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: 6 in burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. 7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. 8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9 then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
The word sanctified here is the greek word
hagiazó and means:
I make holy, treat as holy, set apart as holy, sanctify, hallow, purify
– to regard as special (sacred), i.e. holy ("set apart"), sanctify. See 40 (hagios).
The word is also in the perfect tense which means:
The perfect tense in Greek corresponds to the perfect tense in English, and describes an action which is viewed as having been completed in the past, once and for all, not needing to be repeated.
This is the case for every sinner Christ died for. And this is not the case for all sinners without exception.
Many today in mans religion are wilfully unaware of this Gospel fact, that those sinners Christ died for, are by His Death, and by the Will of God, Sanctified once for all.
Heb 10:5-10
Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: 6 in burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. 7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. 8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9 then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
The word sanctified here is the greek word
hagiazó and means:
I make holy, treat as holy, set apart as holy, sanctify, hallow, purify
– to regard as special (sacred), i.e. holy ("set apart"), sanctify. See 40 (hagios).
The word is also in the perfect tense which means:
The perfect tense in Greek corresponds to the perfect tense in English, and describes an action which is viewed as having been completed in the past, once and for all, not needing to be repeated.
This is the case for every sinner Christ died for. And this is not the case for all sinners without exception.
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Re: The Atonement
Post #1258Another accomplishment of Christ's death involving the atonement is this: It gives an inheritance !
The Death of Christ, is actually the death of the testator, and it activates Covenant Blessings upon them He died for ! Heb 9:14-17
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
The eternal inheritance is eternal life. Its what Paul means here Gal 3:18
For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise
And Peter meant here 1 Pet 1:4
To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
What Moses meant here Gen 17:8
And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
The word possession in that verse is the hebrew word achuzzah
possession by right of inheritance, Like Num 27:7
The daughters of Zelophehad speak right: thou shalt surely give them a possession of an inheritance among their father's brethren; and thou shalt cause the inheritance of their father to pass unto them
Ezk 46:16
Thus saith the Lord GOD; If the prince give a gift unto any of his sons, the inheritance thereof shall be his sons'; it shall be their possession by inheritance.
So the death of Christ bequeaths an inheritance upon them He died for ! That inheritance is inclusive of eternal life ! 58
The Death of Christ, is actually the death of the testator, and it activates Covenant Blessings upon them He died for ! Heb 9:14-17
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
The eternal inheritance is eternal life. Its what Paul means here Gal 3:18
For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise
And Peter meant here 1 Pet 1:4
To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
What Moses meant here Gen 17:8
And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
The word possession in that verse is the hebrew word achuzzah
possession by right of inheritance, Like Num 27:7
The daughters of Zelophehad speak right: thou shalt surely give them a possession of an inheritance among their father's brethren; and thou shalt cause the inheritance of their father to pass unto them
Ezk 46:16
Thus saith the Lord GOD; If the prince give a gift unto any of his sons, the inheritance thereof shall be his sons'; it shall be their possession by inheritance.
So the death of Christ bequeaths an inheritance upon them He died for ! That inheritance is inclusive of eternal life ! 58
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Post #1259It takes away sins
One of the Great Blessings of the death of Christ, which applies to all for whom He died, and is the primary reason why His Death alone saved them, it's the fact that His Death took away their sins! They can't die in their sins as these may Jn8:24 !
He was manifested to take away our sins, if we're believers 1 Jn 3:5
And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
John here is writing to the Children of God, not all mankind. And Christ death results in salvation from their sins, because He took them away.
The writer of Hebrews taught this when contrasting the Death of Christ versus the death of the old covenant sacrifices Heb 10:4
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
But Christ death alone did, and by His offering of Himself, He sanctified and Perfected forever them He died for Heb 10:10,14! That is what takig away sins accomplished for all whom He died!
One of the Great Blessings of the death of Christ, which applies to all for whom He died, and is the primary reason why His Death alone saved them, it's the fact that His Death took away their sins! They can't die in their sins as these may Jn8:24 !
He was manifested to take away our sins, if we're believers 1 Jn 3:5
And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
John here is writing to the Children of God, not all mankind. And Christ death results in salvation from their sins, because He took them away.
The writer of Hebrews taught this when contrasting the Death of Christ versus the death of the old covenant sacrifices Heb 10:4
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
But Christ death alone did, and by His offering of Himself, He sanctified and Perfected forever them He died for Heb 10:10,14! That is what takig away sins accomplished for all whom He died!
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Post #1260Life out of His Death!
Jn 6:33
For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
What religionists don't know is that the death of Christ gives life to the world he died for, the world of God's Sheep.
Remember when Christ said this Jn 10:10
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
The They are his sheep Vs 11
11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
And that is the same World in Jn 6:33
Life comes to them, that world as a result of His Death as their Shepherd.
Jn 6:33
For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
What religionists don't know is that the death of Christ gives life to the world he died for, the world of God's Sheep.
Remember when Christ said this Jn 10:10
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
The They are his sheep Vs 11
11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
And that is the same World in Jn 6:33
Life comes to them, that world as a result of His Death as their Shepherd.