Why Was Satan . . .

[Miles]

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. . . given power to tempt man, thus leading man into sin and eventually causing him to go to hell?


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Couldn't god have done it without Satan's help?


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[Capbook]

"Though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason"?

This passage in the book of Job has already been explained. Did you not see it?

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Do you believe that God allows trials and tribulation in our lives?

Yes, he allows them, he doesn't cause them.

"Though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason." (Job 2:3) May I know whose words is this to you?

It is God talking to Satan. Satan was trying to get Jehovah to strike down Job. But God was not guilty of acting against Job.

Trying? or tried? Remember Job still holdeth fast his integrity.
Of course God is not guilty, we are guilty if we fail God's trials.
Is anything would happen if God does not allow it?

That's right, as I said before. God allows bad things to happen, but He does not cause them. The trials are Satan's.

If God does not allow Satan's trial would it happen or not?

[onewithhim]

"Though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason"?

This passage in the book of Job has already been explained. Did you not see it?

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SATAN THE DEVIL, THE STORY OF JOB and ...HUMAN SUFFERING

Do you believe that God allows trials and tribulation in our lives?

Yes, he allows them, he doesn't cause them.

"Though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason." (Job 2:3) May I know whose words is this to you?

It is God talking to Satan. Satan was trying to get Jehovah to strike down Job. But God was not guilty of acting against Job.

Trying? or tried? Remember Job still holdeth fast his integrity.
Of course God is not guilty, we are guilty if we fail God's trials.
Is anything would happen if God does not allow it?

That's right, as I said before. God allows bad things to happen, but He does not cause them. The trials are Satan's.

If God does not allow Satan's trial would it happen or not?

It would not.

[myth-one.com]

If God does not allow Satan's trial would it happen or not?

It would not.

Sure it would. God gave Satan rulership over the earth, and Satan can do with it as he pleases:

And the devil, taking him up into a high mountain, showed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whosoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. (Luke 4:5-7)

[Capbook]

"Though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason"?

This passage in the book of Job has already been explained. Did you not see it?

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Do you believe that God allows trials and tribulation in our lives?

Yes, he allows them, he doesn't cause them.

"Though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason." (Job 2:3) May I know whose words is this to you?

It is God talking to Satan. Satan was trying to get Jehovah to strike down Job. But God was not guilty of acting against Job.

Trying? or tried? Remember Job still holdeth fast his integrity.
Of course God is not guilty, we are guilty if we fail God's trials.
Is anything would happen if God does not allow it?

That's right, as I said before. God allows bad things to happen, but He does not cause them. The trials are Satan's.

If God does not allow Satan's trial would it happen or not?

It would not.

Then who do you think have the final decision?

[Capbook]

If God does not allow Satan's trial would it happen or not?

It would not.

Sure it would. God gave Satan rulership over the earth, and Satan can do with it as he pleases:

And the devil, taking him up into a high mountain, showed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whosoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. (Luke 4:5-7)

Do all the devil's power succeeded in tempting Jesus?
So, God's power is greater than the devil's then.

[onewithhim]

If God does not allow Satan's trial would it happen or not?

It would not.

Sure it would. God gave Satan rulership over the earth, and Satan can do with it as he pleases:

And the devil, taking him up into a high mountain, showed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whosoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. (Luke 4:5-7)

I am not arguing that Satan doesn't have control over the world. The Scriptures are clear that he does. I am saying that Jehovah has allowed Satan to control the world, after Satan challenged Him with nasty accusations. Jehovah would not have done what Satan actually did if He had not given Satan the control of the world.

[Capbook]

This passage in the book of Job has already been explained. Did you not see it?

POST 188 viewtopic.php?f=38&t=38979&start=180#p1154900





RELATED POSTS

Do you believe that God allows trials and tribulation in our lives?

Yes, he allows them, he doesn't cause them.

"Though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason." (Job 2:3) May I know whose words is this to you?

It is God talking to Satan. Satan was trying to get Jehovah to strike down Job. But God was not guilty of acting against Job.

Trying? or tried? Remember Job still holdeth fast his integrity.
Of course God is not guilty, we are guilty if we fail God's trials.
Is anything would happen if God does not allow it?

That's right, as I said before. God allows bad things to happen, but He does not cause them. The trials are Satan's.

If God does not allow Satan's trial would it happen or not?

It would not.

Then who do you think have the final decision?

Onewithhim, I believe you missed to answer my question.

[onewithhim]

Do you believe that God allows trials and tribulation in our lives?

Yes, he allows them, he doesn't cause them.

"Though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason." (Job 2:3) May I know whose words is this to you?

It is God talking to Satan. Satan was trying to get Jehovah to strike down Job. But God was not guilty of acting against Job.

Trying? or tried? Remember Job still holdeth fast his integrity.
Of course God is not guilty, we are guilty if we fail God's trials.
Is anything would happen if God does not allow it?

That's right, as I said before. God allows bad things to happen, but He does not cause them. The trials are Satan's.

If God does not allow Satan's trial would it happen or not?

It would not.

Then who do you think have the final decision?

Onewithhim, I believe you missed to answer my question.

You're not being very clear. What was the question I missed?

[Capbook]

Yes, he allows them, he doesn't cause them.

"Though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason." (Job 2:3) May I know whose words is this to you?

It is God talking to Satan. Satan was trying to get Jehovah to strike down Job. But God was not guilty of acting against Job.

Trying? or tried? Remember Job still holdeth fast his integrity.
Of course God is not guilty, we are guilty if we fail God's trials.
Is anything would happen if God does not allow it?

That's right, as I said before. God allows bad things to happen, but He does not cause them. The trials are Satan's.

If God does not allow Satan's trial would it happen or not?

It would not.

Then who do you think have the final decision?

Onewithhim, I believe you missed to answer my question.

You're not being very clear. What was the question I missed?

I colored it red now, see above.

[onewithhim]

"Though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason." (Job 2:3) May I know whose words is this to you?

It is God talking to Satan. Satan was trying to get Jehovah to strike down Job. But God was not guilty of acting against Job.

Trying? or tried? Remember Job still holdeth fast his integrity.
Of course God is not guilty, we are guilty if we fail God's trials.
Is anything would happen if God does not allow it?

That's right, as I said before. God allows bad things to happen, but He does not cause them. The trials are Satan's.

If God does not allow Satan's trial would it happen or not?

It would not.

Then who do you think have the final decision?

Onewithhim, I believe you missed to answer my question.

You're not being very clear. What was the question I missed?

I colored it red now, see above.

Jehovah God had the final decision as to whether or not Job and mankind would be tested to prove their loyalty to Him. He ALLOWED Satan to attack Job with all kinds of problems. I believe I have already said this in my posts.