Every bible scholar on earth knows 100% that God put his name --( YHVH(Jehovah) = the tetragramoton) in his bible in over 7000 spots because God wants it there. Thus wicked men by satans will removed Gods name to mislead and replaced it in OT( nearly 6800 spots) with GOD or LORD all capitols--quoted in NT over 200 spots where God willed his name.
Now in light of Jesus, who at the Lords prayer has clearly shown to all that his Fathers name( YHVH(Jehovah) is the #1 most important thing, followed by his Fathers kingdom and will. Thus to a true follower Gods name is #1 most important issue.
So then one must ask why is my religion using altered translations in support of satans will over Gods will on the matter of his name belonging in his bible? Would you say to mislead is the answer? Yes it is.
Here is a prime example of the misleading that it does
Joel 2:21-22--Whoever calls on the name of YHVH(Jehovah) will be saved---quoted 2 x in the NT at Acts 2:21-22--Romans 10:13--But since satan willed translations have LORD at Joel, Lord is at both spots of NT, and all who know Jesus is Lord will call on his name in error because they are being mislead. God is not called LORD in the OT by his will, his name belongs there. it is causing major confusion.
The New world translation corrected that matter, yet every religion using the altered translations condemned the NWT. Why because with that name back in it exposes all of those ones using the altered translations as false religion.
The sad fact is that they know Gods name belongs in all of those spots. So what are you going to do about being mislead?
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Post #61The force has hands?
How do you define "person"?
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Post #62Yes ...symbolic hands
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Post #63You did not answer my question on "how you define the word "person".
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Post #64An individual.Capbook wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:16 amYou did not answer my question on "how you define the word "person".
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Post #65Is a person or individual had gender, intelligence, emotion, and will?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:47 amAn individual.Capbook wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:16 amYou did not answer my question on "how you define the word "person".
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Post #66There is no "singular name" which includes the force that is the Holy Spirit. The Father can be named and the Son can be named, but the Holy Spirit has no personal name. It's because it isn't a Person. I don't know what you mean by the Holy Spirit having "the same definite article." Please explain. Of course Jehovah uses His Holy Spirit to Comfort and Intercede and Advocate. That is what He uses His Spirit to do, among other things. That happens without the Spirit being a Person.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:37 amIf the Holy Spirit a force why He is included in the singular "name" and the same definite article used with the Father and Son?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:01 pmThe name of God is JEHOVAH. (See Psalm 83:18, KJV) "That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." The name of Jesus is Jesus, though in Hebrew it's something else, but we have no trouble saying Jesus' name. The Holy Ghost has no name because it is a force with which God does what He wants to do.TheHolyGhost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:03 pmMatthew 28:19
Go ye therefore,
and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
What is the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost?
Is Jesus Christ, the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost?
If not then what is it?
Can a force be a Comforter? Intercessor or Advocate? (John 14:16)
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Post #67The definite article (the) is used before a noun to indicate that the identity of the noun is known.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:05 pmThere is no "singular name" which includes the force that is the Holy Spirit. The Father can be named and the Son can be named, but the Holy Spirit has no personal name. It's because it isn't a Person. I don't know what you mean by the Holy Spirit having "the same definite article." Please explain. Of course Jehovah uses His Holy Spirit to Comfort and Intercede and Advocate. That is what He uses His Spirit to do, among other things. That happens without the Spirit being a Person.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:37 amIf the Holy Spirit a force why He is included in the singular "name" and the same definite article used with the Father and Son?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:01 pmThe name of God is JEHOVAH. (See Psalm 83:18, KJV) "That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." The name of Jesus is Jesus, though in Hebrew it's something else, but we have no trouble saying Jesus' name. The Holy Ghost has no name because it is a force with which God does what He wants to do.TheHolyGhost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:03 pmMatthew 28:19
Go ye therefore,
and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
What is the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost?
Is Jesus Christ, the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost?
If not then what is it?
Can a force be a Comforter? Intercessor or Advocate? (John 14:16)
The union of these three names in the form of baptism proves that the Son and Holy Spirit are equal with the Father. Nothing would be more absurd or blasphemous than to unite the name of a man or a force with the name of the ever-living God in this solemn rite.
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
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Post #68DOES THE FACT THAT MATTHEW 28v19 SPEAKS OF AS BEING BAPTIZED "IN THE NAME OF" THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT INDICATE THEY ARE PART OF A TRINITY?
A “name” can mean something other than a personal name. The Greek word for name used in Matthew 28:19 is Onoma, note the following
"Hence baptism ‘in the name of the holy spirit’ implies recognition of that spirit as having its source in God and as exercising its function according to the divine will" - Insight on the Scriptures Vol II p. 1020
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A “name” can mean something other than a personal name. The Greek word for name used in Matthew 28:19 is Onoma, note the following
Vines list the usages of ONOMA (name) as note that amongst the uses are the following ...“The use name (onoma) Matthew 28:19 is a common one in the Septuagint and the papyri for power or authority.” - Robertson’s Word Pictures in the New Testament, Vol. I, p. 245
( *) in the power of (with en, "in"), e.g., Mark 16:17; Luke 10:17; Acts 3:6; Acts 4:10; Acts 16:18; James 5:14;
(*) in recognition of the authority of (sometimes combined with the thought of relying or resting on), Matthew 18:20; cp. Matthew 28:19; Acts 8:16; Acts 9:2 (eis, "into"); John 14:13; John 15:16; Ephesians 5:20; Colossians 3:17;
"Hence baptism ‘in the name of the holy spirit’ implies recognition of that spirit as having its source in God and as exercising its function according to the divine will" - Insight on the Scriptures Vol II p. 1020
JEHOVAHS WITNESS
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Post #69That doesn't show in any way that the three are equal. It just mentions three individual entities, and nothing about the relationship among the three except the Son, of course, would be subservient to his Father who gave him life. The Holy Spirit is just the Holy Spirit. It doesn't make it equal to any of the other two.Capbook wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 7:34 amThe definite article (the) is used before a noun to indicate that the identity of the noun is known.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:05 pmThere is no "singular name" which includes the force that is the Holy Spirit. The Father can be named and the Son can be named, but the Holy Spirit has no personal name. It's because it isn't a Person. I don't know what you mean by the Holy Spirit having "the same definite article." Please explain. Of course Jehovah uses His Holy Spirit to Comfort and Intercede and Advocate. That is what He uses His Spirit to do, among other things. That happens without the Spirit being a Person.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:37 amIf the Holy Spirit a force why He is included in the singular "name" and the same definite article used with the Father and Son?onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 8:01 pmThe name of God is JEHOVAH. (See Psalm 83:18, KJV) "That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." The name of Jesus is Jesus, though in Hebrew it's something else, but we have no trouble saying Jesus' name. The Holy Ghost has no name because it is a force with which God does what He wants to do.TheHolyGhost wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:03 pmMatthew 28:19
Go ye therefore,
and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
What is the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost?
Is Jesus Christ, the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost?
If not then what is it?
Can a force be a Comforter? Intercessor or Advocate? (John 14:16)
The union of these three names in the form of baptism proves that the Son and Holy Spirit are equal with the Father. Nothing would be more absurd or blasphemous than to unite the name of a man or a force with the name of the ever-living God in this solemn rite.
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
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Post #70Yes, Vine's define "name" as it implies, of authority of, character, rank, majesty, power, excellence, etc,.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 11:00 am DOES THE FACT THAT MATTHEW 28v19 SPEAKS OF AS BEING BAPTIZED "IN THE NAME OF" THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT INDICATE THEY ARE PART OF A TRINITY?
A “name” can mean something other than a personal name. The Greek word for name used in Matthew 28:19 is Onoma, note the following
Vines list the usages of ONOMA (name) as note that amongst the uses are the following ...“The use name (onoma) Matthew 28:19 is a common one in the Septuagint and the papyri for power or authority.” - Robertson’s Word Pictures in the New Testament, Vol. I, p. 245
( *) in the power of (with en, "in"), e.g., Mark 16:17; Luke 10:17; Acts 3:6; Acts 4:10; Acts 16:18; James 5:14;
(*) in recognition of the authority of (sometimes combined with the thought of relying or resting on), Matthew 18:20; cp. Matthew 28:19; Acts 8:16; Acts 9:2 (eis, "into"); John 14:13; John 15:16; Ephesians 5:20; Colossians 3:17;
"Hence baptism ‘in the name of the holy spirit’ implies recognition of that spirit as having its source in God and as exercising its function according to the divine will" - Insight on the Scriptures Vol II p. 1020
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As the three are mentioned after the "name" in that verse, it implies that the three have authority, character, rank, majesty, power, excellence etc. A one God in three persons.
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for all that a "name" implies, of authority, character, rank, majesty, power, excellence, etc., of everything that the "name" covers:
(from Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words, Copyright © 1985, Thomas Nelson Publishers.)