SABBATH...

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Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?

Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment

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The law said that people should sacrifice for their sins. If there is no sin anymore, then there is no need for the sacrifice.

No, sin still abounds!

But sin no longer affects one's salvation anyway under the New Testament Covenant:

Romans 6:14
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Everlasting life is now a gift of God under the New Testament Covenant:

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

To inherit this gift of God, we must simply believe in Jesus as our Savior:

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Believers can still sin, but there is no need for any sacrifice because sin no longer affects our salvation! We do not have to be without sin to inherit everlasting life, even though the wages of sin is death. Believers avoid the wages of their sins by gaining everlasting spiritual bodied life which cannot die. Since we cannot die, the wages of sin do not affect us.

This is not to say that there are no consequences for sinning! We reap the rewards of our sins here on earth. These may include prison time, jail, fear of detection, guilt, venereal disease, shame, lost opportunities, divorce, low self-esteem; and the list goes on, and on, and on.

I wonder what would you define;
1. sinners
2. saints

[JehovahsWitness]

When does the Father feeds the fowls in the creation week?

God created the vegetation (food) long before he created the birds and the animals. When the birds were eventually created, the vegetation was all around them for food. Their natural instincts , programmes into them by God, pushed them to eat and drink.

Adam did not need to tell the birds around him to eat; all animals were already eating because of their natural instincts to do so (compare Isaiah 1:3)


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[Capbook]

When does the Father feeds the fowls in the creation week?

God created the vegetation (food) long before he created the birds and the animals. When the birds were eventually created, the vegetation was all around them for food. Their natural instincts , programmes into them by God, pushed them to eat and drink.

Adam did not need to tell the birds around him to eat; all animals were already eating because of their natural instincts to do so (compare Isaiah 1:3)


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So, your god has no foreknowledge?
Does not know that the fowls were already eating (third day of creation) the vegetation many thousand years ago.
As your god does not know, in the sixth day of creation the true God informed Adam what foods for the fowls are.
What's the use of the true God informing Adam about the fowls food then?

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Since there was no need for [sacrificial laws] anymore what are the options? One option is to Remove or change those laws from being mandatory to being optional (adapt the law). However we have agreed that Jesus indicated not ONE LETTER of the Mosaic law was subject to be changed. So to this day the Jews that do no keep all the laws (including those to make sin sacrifices) are breaking God's law.

.... If there is no sin anymore, then there is no need for the sacrifice. That does not mean the law should be removed, only that there is no need for sacrifice.

The sacrifices were not subject to not having sin ....

The scripture tells they were sin offerings. Therefore, if no sin, no need for sacrifice.

The ONLY option is is to nail the entire thing to the "cross" and replace it with something new.

Which would also be the end of "don't murder, steal...". Sorry, I disagree with that. But, luckily I don't think it is a problem, if you don't agree with me in this case.

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The law said that people should sacrifice for their sins. If there is no sin anymore, then there is no need for the sacrifice.

No, sin still abounds!

It should not, because people should be born anew and be righteous.

...That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Don’t marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born anew.’
John 3:3-7
But as many as received him, to them he gave the right to be-come God’s children, to those who believe in his name: who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
John 1:12-13
It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.
John 6:63
He who does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. To this end the Son of God was revealed: that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever is born of God doesn’t commit sin, because his seed remains in him, and he can’t sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the devil. Whoever doesn’t do righteousness is not of God, neither is he who doesn’t love his brother.
1 John 3:7-10

....We do not have to be without sin to inherit everlasting life...

But, people must be righteous to get eternal life. I recommend to study what it means in the Bible.

These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Matt. 25:46

[JehovahsWitness]

The sacrifices were not subject to not having sin ....

The scripture tells they were sin offerings. Therefore, if no sin, no need for sacrifice.

• Did you not see that I pointed out that Jesus (who was without sin) kept the law including observe the yearly festivals which involved blood sacrifices. There was no clause in the Mosaic law the exception for those without sin.

• Further, John explained that nobody (except Jesus) can claim to be without sin. Born again Christians are not sinless (without sin) their faith in the randsom opens the way for their being forgiven for the sins they commit.

Can you address the two points above.

In the light of the above, Jewish Christians would still be obliged to observe ALL of the law including offer sin offerings, to this day if the Mosaic law is still in operation since any suggestion that under certain circumstances some of the laws of the Mosaic law can be disregarded is in direct opposition to what Jesus himself said about not one letter being subject to change.



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...Did you not see that I pointed out that Jesus (who was without sin) kept the law including observe the yearly festivals which involved blood sacrifices. There was no clause in the Mosaic law the exception for those without sin.

Participating does necessary mean he was there because he had to be. And I think the festival could be without the sacrifice.

• Further, John explained that nobody (except Jesus) can claim to be without sin. Born again Christians are not sinless (without sin) their faith in the randsom opens the way for their being forgiven for the sins they commit.

If sin is forgiven, person doesn't have sin. And I think person who is born anew, should not have sin. However, this may depend on what is meant with sin. I have understood sin means to reject God, or to be apart from God. If person is righteous, he remains loyal/faithful to God, and doesn't reject Him.

In the light of the above, Jewish Christians would still be obliged to observe ALL of the law including offer sin offerings, ...

Sorry, I don't think there is any lawful reason for that, if sins have been forgiven already.

[JehovahsWitness]

... I think the festival could be without the sacrifice.

PASSOVER Festival (Ram) - Leviticus 23:6-14
Festival of BOOTHS (70 Bulls) - Numbers 29:12-34
Festival of WEEKS ( "one young goat as a sin offering") - Leviticus 23:6-14

[JehovahsWitness]

The scripture tells they were sin offerings. Therefore, if no sin, no need for sacrifice.

WOULD AN ISRAELITE MAN THAT WAS PERFECT (WITHOUT SIN) STILL BE OBLIGED TO KEEP THE FESTIVALS?

There may not be a need for a perfect human (only one has ever existed) to make a sin sacrifice but attendance and participation was obligatory. Like washing hands that are already clean, in the absence of a WRITTEN "clean hands clause" * (if you perfect you do not have to do this) , a law says "Wash your hands" means you wash your hands or break that law.

* No human, not even Jesus had the right to make an amendment clause, to a law that his Father God instigated. Thus he (Jesus) submitted to all the laws and kept them perfectly.

Participating does necessary mean he was there because he had to be.

EXODUS 34:23 :

“Three times a year, all your men are to appear before the true Lord, Jehovah, the God of Israel"

Jesus did have to participate in the annual festivals, if he did not he would have been "breaking the law". Since according to the bible "sin is lawlessness" if he failed to attend he would have sinned.

[JehovahsWitness]

If sin is forgiven, person doesn't have sin. And I think person who is born anew, should not have sin

DOES BEING FORGIVEN FOR OUR SINS MEANS WE BECOME SINLESS?

JOHN 1 : 8-10

If we make the statement, “We have no sin,” we are misleading ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous so as to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we make the statement, “We have not sinned,” we are making him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Whatever the biblical meaning of sin is, we all have it. (compare Romans 5:12)