Lake of fire

[achilles12604]

Question for everyone. The lake of fire referred to by the traditional Christian/ Catholic/ Fundi churches.

Is it literally a lake of fire? It is figurative? Other?

[Capbook]

...fire from God will devour them.
Rev 20:9

That is speaking about symbolic fire

Revelation and Leviticus are talking about the same literal fire from God, the same word "devour" used that caused death to the sinners.
By the way Revelation 20 is the final judgement of God.
Saints - second death has no power.
Sinners - died then resurrected after 1,000 years, but devoured by fire of God, and died again, as second death.

Lev 10:2
2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.
KJV

Rev 20:5-9
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
KJV

[Capbook]

...fire from God will devour them.
Rev 20:9

That is speaking about symbolic fire

Yes it is, just like Jehovah, in this verse, is a "consuming fire" that will destroy Israel's enemies: "Know therefore today that it is the LORD your God who is crossing over before you as a consuming fire." (Deuteronomy 9:3, NASB) Is God really fire? Or is that said to compare His power and zeal to fire, which is clearly symbolic?

Is this symbolic to you? Fire that causes death to Nadab and Abihu?

Lev 10:2
2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.
KJV

[JehovahsWitness]

Revelation and Leviticus are talking about the same literal fire from God

I've never read those words in the bible, please provide the scripture that says "Revelation and Leviticus are talking about the same literal fire from God". That sounds like your opinion.


JW

[Capbook]

Revelation and Leviticus are talking about the same literal fire from God

I've never read those words in the bible, please provide the scripture that says "Revelation and Leviticus are talking about the same literal fire from God". That sounds like your opinion.


JW

The two verses mentioned fire from God and devour, and Leviticus added death to the sinners which would prove that the fire is literal fire.

[JehovahsWitness]

The two verses mentioned fire from God and devour, and Leviticus added death to the sinners which would prove that the fire is literal fire.

You still haven't provided the scripture that says "evelation and Leviticus are talking about the same literal fire from God" It sounds like you are not writing scripture, but your opinion. Just provide the scripture that says "both literal" fire and I'll be satisfied it comes from God.

[georgejohn12]

We can ONLY believe this to be figurative, IMO. God is a consuming fire.........is He really, or is this figurative?
How about this:
"Then one of the seraphin flew to me, having in his hand a live coal, which he had taken from the alter. And he touched my mouth with it and said..."Behold, this has touched your lips; your iniqutiy is taken away and your sin purged." Isa 6:6

Naturally, had this been a real coal and really purged Isaiah's lips, we would have been told, or at least he would have been noted as speaking with a lisp!! Then there is something about a purifier's fire.......will have to look it up, but all these to say, yes, no doubt, the 'fire' is figurative.

[Capbook]

The two verses mentioned fire from God and devour, and Leviticus added death to the sinners which would prove that the fire is literal fire.

You still haven't provided the scripture that says "evelation and Leviticus are talking about the same literal fire from God" It sounds like you are not writing scripture, but your opinion. Just provide the scripture that says "both literal" fire and I'll be satisfied it comes from God.

Nadab and Abihu died because of the fire. Do you believe or maybe not that fire that exist long ago here on earth can cause death? I just hope there is an answer to this question.

Lev 10:1,2
1.And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the Lord, which he commanded them not.
2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.

Rev 20:9
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
KJV

[Capbook]

We can ONLY believe this to be figurative, IMO. God is a consuming fire.........is He really, or is this figurative?
How about this:
"Then one of the seraphin flew to me, having in his hand a live coal, which he had taken from the alter. And he touched my mouth with it and said..."Behold, this has touched your lips; your iniqutiy is taken away and your sin purged." Isa 6:6

Naturally, had this been a real coal and really purged Isaiah's lips, we would have been told, or at least he would have been noted as speaking with a lisp!! Then there is something about a purifier's fire.......will have to look it up, but all these to say, yes, no doubt, the 'fire' is figurative.

Look, is the fire that causes death to Nadab and Abihu figurative? Does fire today or long ago here on earth does not cause death?

Lev 10:1,2
1.And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the Lord, which he commanded them not.
2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord

[onewithhim]

...fire from God will devour them.
Rev 20:9

That is speaking about symbolic fire

Revelation and Leviticus are talking about the same literal fire from God, the same word "devour" used that caused death to the sinners.
By the way Revelation 20 is the final judgement of God.
Saints - second death has no power.
Sinners - died then resurrected after 1,000 years, but devoured by fire of God, and died again, as second death.

Lev 10:2
2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.
KJV

Rev 20:5-9
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
KJV

"Devoured" means that the people are made non-existent. They are completely obliterated. I had said that to say "Jehovah is a fire" doesn't mean that he is actually fire. So "fire" doesn't always mean a literal burning with literal fire, wouldn't you say? Symbolic uses of "fire":

"For here Jehovah himself comes as a very fire, and his chariots are like a storm wind." (Isaiah 66:15 and also verse 16.)

"As for His lips, they have become full of denunciation and His tongue is like a devouring fire." (Isaiah 30:27)

"And in my heart it proved to be like a burning fire shut up in my bones; and I got tired of holding it in, and I was unable to endure it." (Jeremiah 20:9b)

[Capbook]

...fire from God will devour them.
Rev 20:9

That is speaking about symbolic fire

Revelation and Leviticus are talking about the same literal fire from God, the same word "devour" used that caused death to the sinners.
By the way Revelation 20 is the final judgement of God.
Saints - second death has no power.
Sinners - died then resurrected after 1,000 years, but devoured by fire of God, and died again, as second death.

Lev 10:2
2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.
KJV

Rev 20:5-9
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
KJV

"Devoured" means that the people are made non-existent. They are completely obliterated. I had said that to say "Jehovah is a fire" doesn't mean that he is actually fire. So "fire" doesn't always mean a literal burning with literal fire, wouldn't you say? Symbolic uses of "fire":

"For here Jehovah himself comes as a very fire, and his chariots are like a storm wind." (Isaiah 66:15 and also verse 16.)

"As for His lips, they have become full of denunciation and His tongue is like a devouring fire." (Isaiah 30:27)

"And in my heart it proved to be like a burning fire shut up in my bones; and I got tired of holding it in, and I was unable to endure it." (Jeremiah 20:9b)

The fire that punished the ungodly that is what I mean as literal fire that causes death to anybody.
And lexicon does not define "devoured" as the people are made non-existent.

NT:2719 (devoured) katafagoo, to eat up, to devour, to consume; to exploit, to prey upon
(Thayer's Greek Lexicon)